FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #31

[pinamia]

Good morning Pin... just you n me and the www this morning.

Good morning to you, too. God Bless you.

 

[Skully]

I just popped in to see if there were any updates or arrests in this case. I see just from the few posts this a.m. it is still unsolved. Any suspects at all?

 

[pinamia]

I know no one is here to answer me.. so when you all return.. I look to see who is on. Right now it is me and four guests. Do you all wonder each time you see this list, if one of those is "IT", like I do? The perp, the monster, the RSO, USO, the predator, the scum, the pure evil, or the person who snapped, the person who lives in guilt and remorse. Are you there? Turn yourself in... as DT says they are coming to get you..if not today.. one day soon...

Sad, the monster who did this ISN't living in guilt. He or she is a monster who intentionally did this.

 

[nursebeeme]

morning everybody... just popped in to see what is stirring in this case.. I am so sad that it is turning into another Neveah B. case! I really cannot believe it! I wish LE would say something! Anything!

 

[LLLindsayy]

I know no one is here to answer me.. so when you all return.. I look to see who is on. Right now it is me and four guests. Do you all wonder each time you see this list, if one of those is "IT", like I do? The perp, the monster, the RSO, USO, the predator, the scum, the pure evil, or the person who snapped, the person who lives in guilt and remorse. Are you there? Turn yourself in... as DT says they are coming to get you..if not today.. one day soon...

Oh yes, I think those exact thoughts when I see guests.

 

[infinity14]

Hi everyone! Some updates from me...

DT and ST are divorced.. final 12/14

The custody/visitation is not completed.

Numbers on gano do go up from the school. My brain fart was innacurate, grove park on left is before grove park on right, but I still think she could have easily passed guard here if she went right.

There is no dumpster at the end of soloman.

The dumpster behind hooters, in the parking lot is easiest of all I have seen, secluded, easily accessible to pull up car, dump and drive, also, small loader, lower to ground than most, no fence... and even though it was not hooters dump, there was hooters trash in it. To get here, you just take debarry all the way to wells, and a short turn to go in that parking lot.

OPJH dumpster is also easily accessible. but going in and getting out in wee hours would risk getting caught. Not the hooters dump.. well hidden.

AB should have to explain alot more of her relationship to kids. I personally want to hear what she has to say, but doubt this will happen. I think she is key to their environment from an outsider and I think she cares more about those kids than we think.

Those pups are a key... I have reason to believe sampson is with somer. The look like boxer pups mixed with shepard I have seen. San Jose is next exit south of 17/ roosevelt and vet office is right there. I dont have to question why someone so demented would take the pups and not kill them. Maybe they saw infinitys post and maybe they saw that I was gonna go and have went to look for them. So they took them to the vet. Maybe somer killed sampson unintentionally and perp got angry. Maybe somer hurt a pup unitentionally and perp got angry. Maybe perp killed sampson for same reason he took pups to vet. These dogs could have belonged to a teenager. There are many people who care more for dogs than people. (sometimes I do too) (alot of people suck IMO).

I do not believe DT killed somer. NOt in a fit of anger. Not by accident.





I took some pics of the sheds and will post later.

OPJH gets out at 345, I was there today to take pics of dumpster, but noway I could wait in that line

I drove from DT employer to OP park, I left her work at 315. Traffic would be no where as bad as 400. I missed most lights and traffic was not bad. I didnt speed over 5mph, but drove aggressively to get there. it took me 38 mins.

Sad,
I agree with you on many things. I too think the puppies could very well be the ones I saw. As I have stated in earlier posts, this young man did not set out to kill Somer, but he panicked when she became loud due to his sexual advances. I did not see him rape her and I don't believe he did. He was too freaked by what he had done.
Yes, Sampson is with Sommer and she finds great comfort in that. I don't know the circumstances surrounding his death, but someone who panics and kills a child would not necessarily kill puppies. Here are my lingering thoughts on the puppies.
Did you notice how quickly the vet was able to find homes for all 8, and doesn't 8 seem like the entire litter?
Couldn't this person sell or give away the pups to individuals or a pet shop?
Who would choose not to do that and dump them under the cover of darkness at a Vet's office? Maybe the perp or someone covering for the perp who doesn't want any attention focused on them.
Also I am wondering about the trash can they were found in. Did it belong to the Vet? Did they bring the pups there in it? If they brought it there could be DNA to match to whatever they have.
I have been told many times that LE will find them, so their best bet is to turn themselves in and explain what happened, otherwise they are going to be villified by LE and the press. This has gone on long enough, they need to do the right thing, and the only thing that might make things any better for them. Please KC turn yourself in.

 

[zannah]

Morning all. You can put your minds at ease about at least 1 guest--I rarely bother to sign in unless I have something to post.

In my travels, I came across this story from July of this year about a 2yo being found in an Orange Park dumpster--probably not related, but in the off chance that there's a connection I thought I'd link it. Their assertion that the child probably crawled in by himself seemed so totally at odds with reality--wonder if it was ever really investigated?
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/news-article.aspx?storyid=140820

 

[infinity14]

Oh, sorry ccane, I have kids distracting me and its wonderfun!!!! I was speaking to infinity on that one, or anyone who might believe in her vision, which, btw I do.... so yes, its possible that pups were at THE crime scene... no evidence of this of course!!!

As far as somer saying sampson is wiht her... well cant prove that one either, but I believe it cause she said so... to someone I believe in.

Well, I see you couldn't hold on to that one could you Sad? Have you been sqirming in your seat since I told you? :crazy:That's okay, they are gonna get found out anyway. i asked Somer to put a thought in the mind of every LE investigating this, and they are going to have an "AHA!" moment.:doh:

 

[zannah]

Well, I see you couldn't hold on to that one could you Sad? Have you been sqirming in your seat since I told you? :crazy:That's okay, they are gonna get found out anyway. i asked Somer to put a thought in the mind of every LE investigating this, and they are going to have an "AHA!" moment.:doh:

Infinity--I have nothing on the dogs, but in one of the videos of the kids that run through the park, I did notice a convertible parked on the street. It looks white or cream to me, not yellow, but thought it might be worth a look since one of the young men seems to fit your description.

http://www.freewebs.com/brokenlightproductions/index.htm
Look around 1:15 of the website intro video for the car shot.

 

[pinamia]

Morning all. You can put your minds at ease about at least 1 guest--I rarely bother to sign in unless I have something to post.

In my travels, I came across this story from July of this year about a 2yo being found in an Orange Park dumpster--probably not related, but in the off chance that there's a connection I thought I'd link it. Their assertion that the child probably crawled in by himself seemed so totally at odds with reality--wonder if it was ever really investigated?
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/news-article.aspx?storyid=140820

We should check out that apartment complexes vicinity to Gano. Cedarbend Apartment complex.

 

[New1]

O/T

Hounds, I see your on and would like to clarify something on my comment about sp and a white lie about him babysitting.

I DO NOT believe that SP was there as a babysitter. That is all I was saying. I believe DT needed someone to tell LE was there in a babysitting capacity and that she "little" white lied about it. Not because it was against the law, but that she had been instructed to provide (and offered free after school care at the school as well as adequate after school care) for her kids in the past and declined it saying neighbors and friends would do this for her. So ON this day she did, with a friend who had NEVER done it before. Does this help you know what I meant? Hope you accept my previous post apology.

So, sad, are you saying that DT didn't ask SP when they had lunch together to stay and wait for the kids on that day? If not, do you think she called him to go over there when she found out Somer didn't come home? If she DID ask him to stay when they had lunch together that day, why on this particular day do you think she did that? If she was offered free after school care, why on earth would she decline knowing how Somer roamed? I wish she had accepted that offer of free after school care....maybe Somer would still be alive.

 

[Noway]

The reason I thought it took ~25 minutes for Diena to get home was Google maps. I figured either at lunch or when coming home to search for Somer she would take the fastest route?

Sad, around 3:15 there might be more people around because schools let out? Just a thought.

 

[sadnpod]

So, sad, are you saying that DT didn't ask SP when they had lunch together to stay and wait for the kids on that day? If not, do you think she called him to go over there when she found out Somer didn't come home? If she DID ask him to stay when they had lunch together that day, why on this particular day do you think she did that? If she was offered free after school care, why on earth would she decline knowing how Somer roamed? I wish she had accepted that offer of free after school care....maybe Somer would still be alive.

Yes, I am saying that is not why he was there. IDK why he stayed. I can only speculate on that one and Ive said it all before and not in any mood for tomatoes today. Its started too wonderful with morning hugs and sneaking off for doughnuts with my sweet. (three doughnut stores til we found strawberry glazed, her fav) I dont think she called him since he was already there when at and st arrived. I think he was waiting to finish what began at lunch ( make up ur own scenerios, a talk, a drug deal, sex, a healing session whatever) Why did she decline after school care? If not money since it was free? (yes I KNOW this, but Im NOT saying how so dont ask please?) I have asked myself that over and over. The only answer I can come up wiht in my mind is that she didnt want the kids talking to after care people. (if anyone has a better idea I would like to know it). I dont believe that somer would still be with us if she had. MAYBE, yes, but there are so many what ifs and maybes that they dont matter. I believe everthing happens for a reason, even the most horrible, horrendous things. She is where she is suppose to be and so are we and so are they.

 

[New1]

Yes, I am saying that is not why he was there. IDK why he stayed. I can only speculate on that one and Ive said it all before and not in any mood for tomatoes today. Its started too wonderful with morning hugs and sneaking off for doughnuts with my sweet. (three doughnut stores til we found strawberry glazed, her fav) I dont think she called him since he was already there when at and st arrived. I think he was waiting to finish what began at lunch ( make up ur own scenerios, a talk, a drug deal, sex, a healing session whatever) Why did she decline after school care? If not money since it was free? (yes I KNOW this, but Im NOT saying how so dont ask please?) I have asked myself that over and over. The only answer I can come up wiht in my mind is that she didnt want the kids talking to after care people. (if anyone has a better idea I would like to know it). I dont believe that somer would still be with us if she had. MAYBE, yes, but there are so many what ifs and maybes that they dont matter. I believe everthing happens for a reason, even the most horrible, horrendous things. She is where she is suppose to be and so are we and so are they.

No tomatoes from here. I won't even ask how you KNOW about her declining after school care because how you know does not even matter. There are some posters you believe and some you don't, and you are one of those who I DO believe. I think you are very honest in what you post here, so NO TOMATOES!

 

[sadnpod]

The reason I thought it took ~25 minutes for Diena to get home was Google maps. I figured either at lunch or when coming home to search for Somer she would take the fastest route?

Sad, around 3:15 there might be more people around because schools let out? Just a thought.

It was 315 when I left dt's office in jax and took 17/roosevelt to get to her house. This is the fastest route. I passed by her house, at 352, then I went straight to OPJH. The elementary school kids were all gone, no crossing guards left when I got there.. OPJH was just letting out at 356 when I got there, the buses were just leaving and cars were lined up by the dumpsters all the way to the road. There might have been sidestreets she knew about that I dont, but if so, it still couldnt cut off much.. she could have went down wells and then turned on debarry, but its not any faster at that time of day, wells is more congested than 17. And debarry seems to be busy all the time. What google route did you get? Oh.,. my dash clock is five minutes fast and that is what I was going by.. but the time it took is the same kwim?

 

[sadnpod]

New1, seriously your post brought tears to my eyes. The thank you button was not enough. I honestly cant comprehend why anyone would lie on here if they truly want justice for somer, which I do, with all my soul.

 

[sadnpod]

Well, I see you couldn't hold on to that one could you Sad? Have you been sqirming in your seat since I told you? :crazy:That's okay, they are gonna get found out anyway. i asked Somer to put a thought in the mind of every LE investigating this, and they are going to have an "AHA!" moment.:doh:

LOL Infinity... I wasnt squirming til I saw all the puppy stuff..and also that someone close to me claims that somer is her friend, in her dreams, and that she has a dog,... and this was after you told me. She doesnt know his name, but he is nice. You are not the only one with visions and dreams. Innocent children are so much easier to access especially in sleep than us hardheaded adults. Do I believe you? Yes. Do I believe her? With all that I am.

 

[ccane]

I dont know it was his bike, and as far as I know, he hasnt been around any of the fund raisers, including bike rallys. DT's car was there, and it still has the Justice for somer on it in like purple shot polish, not permanent. I didnt see any christmas decorations. Of course I would not post pics of the kids, I just zoomed from far away hoping I could get some for sam. I just drove past yesterday, but I took the pics on sunday. It was the first pretty day we had in a while and I was surprised to see the kids out. They were playing with wheelchairs of all things, two of them. I didnt know the other kids, but one took off by himself on the wheelchair far down the street. I passed him as I went by, I dont know if he really needed it or not. Lil st was not really "playing" he was just kinda of sitting on the sidewalk. The others were running back and forth from AB's to DT's. Some were at the memorial which has scaled way down, but ws still there.. There was a Yellow truck in drive, but nothing about somer on it. There was a dk gray suv in the yard, again nothing about somer on it. Those were only vehicles I saw. It was sunday so it could have been family. Its the only time I have seen any trace of kids being there, so her parents could have been there too. My heart almost exploded when I saw lil st.. its like goin back in time for me.. he looks just like his dad and he looks so sad.

Good moring,
Sad what type of vehicle does DT drive, make and color thanks

 

[sadnpod]

Good moring,
Sad what type of vehicle does DT drive, make and color thanks

Good morning ccane.. geez, I think Ive been on a nasty role. Sometimes my posts sound snarky to me when I reread them and I didnt intend it when it was sent and one of mine to you last nite about the pups came off that way, seriously g/f, it wasnt intended. We r still tight, ... rite?
As far as dt's car? I think its a ford taurus, blueish silverish. Im not good at car makes and models and yrs and honestly even colors unless its obvious like BRIGHT YELLOW haha.

When I described this car to ST, he said it was DT's.

 

[ccane]

Good morning ccane.. geez, I think Ive been on a nasty role. Sometimes my posts sound snarky to me when I reread them and I didnt intend it when it was sent and one of mine to you last nite about the pups came off that way, seriously g/f, it wasnt intended. We r still tight, ... rite?
As far as dt's car? I think its a ford taurus, blueish silverish. Im not good at car makes and models and yrs and honestly even colors unless its obvious like BRIGHT YELLOW haha.

When I described this car to ST, he said it was DT's.

thanks, I was wondering why you sounded upset. I had never read the post about the puppy and vision stuff. I kinda stick to the facts in the case.
When you started talking about the pup being key I thought I missed somthing.
So that's why I asked about it.