FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #33

[ChickenPants]

The fact that I disagree does not mean I am taking offense.
When I quote someone and give my opinion that is other than the original poster's, it simply means I disagree, not that I am taking offense.

I am glad you do not take offense, because I think a lot of the things you say are important. I am always willing to see things a different way.

 

[pinamia]

I wonder how that info was leaked from CFS, (today's article)

Perhaps they wanted to put an end to her fund raising efforts.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

This is a possibility and I am open to all possibilities. But I can't recall any similar cases to this one, where the case went on for so long with so many people feeling so strongly about this subject. I would think (IMO) that LE would make some kind of statement to the effect that DT and the family are cleared. The only thing I can recall is what I posted a little way back, somebody said that LE told DT the perp wasn't "anyone she knew" (?) sorry too tired to go back and look right now.

Again, I want to point out that for ME, it is not one thing like "jumpsuit vs. sweatsuit" or DT not having access to autopsy reports - and based on protocol, this is highly unusual. It isn't just that she said this or that, didn't call 911, all the things that have been discussed. It is not JUST this or that, it is a whole lot of things.

Please I hope everyone will admit to the fact that there are many here who had one theory or another and later changed it. Some people were convinced DT was guilty and then thought otherwise based on other information. Some people were convinced it was a sexual murder and then "did a 360" later. I do not take it personally when someone is convinced about what they feel strongly about. I am a mother, I do get annoyed when people infer I am heartless or stubborn or whatever and don't care about this woman's pain. Or "challenge" me to "prove" this or that. If we had proof, the case would be solved.

If we are not allowed to discuss possibilities, then what is the point of discussing it at all?

BBM

I don't think anybody has ever said you are not allowed to discuss possibilities. But, when you discuss possibilities, there may be people who disagree with it and post about it. That does not mean they are trying to prevent you from having an opinion, it means they also have an opinion.
If it differs with yours or anyone else's, so be it. That's part of discussion and having opinions. IMO

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I found the article too. Too bad the warning signs weren't addressed and Somer protected.

Just to be fair, I hope the ENTIRE article was read.

Snipped from article:

But a two-week probe by Children and Families concluded the allegation about the children getting lost and being found with a stranger had no basis. It also found Diena Thompson properly arranged for her children to be taken to and from school, about a mile away, and that it was acceptable for them to walk home when necessary. Day care was suggested to her as an option, but not a requirement.

The case was closed without any findings of wrongdoing, according to the records provided to the Times-Union last week.

 

[ChickenPants]

http://jacksonville.com/community/m...ty_expressed_a_year_before_her#comment-156939

FYI

:sick: :sick: :sick: :furious: :banghead: :sick: :snooty: :furious:

Just M O O

:sick:

 

[pinamia]

Just to be fair, I hope the ENTIRE article was read.

Snipped from article:

But a two-week probe by Children and Families concluded the allegation about the children getting lost and being found with a stranger had no basis. It also found Diena Thompson properly arranged for her children to be taken to and from school, about a mile away, and that it was acceptable for them to walk home when necessary. Day care was suggested to her as an option, but not a requirement.

The case was closed without any findings of wrongdoing, according to the records provided to the Times-Union last week.

The recommendations/suggestions weren't followed.
DFS decided that DT was working to rectify safety issues and she didn't.

Also, "Thompson said a family friend had been transporting the children and that would continue." DFS can only go by what info was given to them. They aren't the police etc who can enforce anything. They were just going by what DT told them and she denied knowing her kids got lost or wandered.

 

[ChickenPants]

BBM

I don't think anybody has ever said you are not allowed to discuss possibilities. But, when you discuss possibilities, there may be people who disagree with it and post about it. That does not mean they are trying to prevent you from having an opinion, it means they also have an opinion.
If it differs with yours or anyone else's, so be it. That's part of discussion and having opinions. IMO

I am a mother, I do get annoyed when people infer I am heartless or stubborn or whatever and don't care about this woman's pain.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

The recommendations/suggestions weren't followed.
DFS decided that DT was working to rectify safety issues and she didn't.

That's not what I read.

Snipped:
The investigator concludes that the “risk remains low” and that Thompson had been very cooperative.

“No services necessary at this time,” the report said.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I am a mother, I do get annoyed when people infer I am heartless or stubborn or whatever and don't care about this woman's pain.

:waitasec:

My post you quoted said nothing about you as a mother or how much you care or don't care about anybody.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

That's not what I read.

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The investigator concludes that the “risk remains low” and that Thompson had been very cooperative.

“No services necessary at this time,” the report said.

That's what I read too.

 

[ChickenPants]

Just to be fair, I hope the ENTIRE article was read.

Snipped from article:

But a two-week probe by Children and Families concluded the allegation about the children getting lost and being found with a stranger had no basis. It also found Diena Thompson properly arranged for her children to be taken to and from school, about a mile away, and that it was acceptable for them to walk home when necessary. Day care was suggested to her as an option, but not a requirement.

The case was closed without any findings of wrongdoing, according to the records provided to the Times-Union last week.

The entire article - the purpose of which is to unveil the lack of proper supervision of the child - states that a person called the abuse hotline, she was investigated, she was given two different options for child care, and CHOSE not to take advantage of either of them.

When using the word "fair", IMO it pertains to the truth. Somer is dead in large part because even after her mother was investigated for neglect, she failed to comply with the recommendations. Any way one looks at it, there it is. Documented.

 

[pinamia]

That's not what I read.

Snipped:
The investigator concludes that the “risk remains low” and that Thompson had been very cooperative.

“No services necessary at this time,” the report said.

Well, the investigator was wrong. There was a high safety risk.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Just to be fair, I hope the ENTIRE article was read.

Snipped from article:

But a two-week probe by Children and Families concluded the allegation about the children getting lost and being found with a stranger had no basis. It also found Diena Thompson properly arranged for her children to be taken to and from school, about a mile away, and that it was acceptable for them to walk home when necessary. Day care was suggested to her as an option, but not a requirement.

The case was closed without any findings of wrongdoing, according to the records provided to the Times-Union last week.

That's what I read a two-week probe by Children and Families concluded the allegation about the children getting lost and being found with a stranger had no basis.

 

[NSC]

I am not one to stick up for DT when it comes to the home life and structure that she did or didn't provide for her children -- she gets an -F from me -- but she is still one leg up upon those that physically abuse their children, burn their skin with cigarettes and lock them in closets for weeks at a time -- so there is a bright side. At least we didn't see any of this stuff in the report ---- However, most of us have discussed these "rumors" right? So, now there is some "fact" on the table. I also want to add that I am willing to bet my last bottom dollar there were some other signs severe enough to make this social worker pick up the phone -- maybe the fighting at school, maybe the kids emotional states....who knows whatever it may be. I am sure it wasn't pretty. Do I hold her negligent, you bet because she could have done more for her kids -- you can always do more in life.

Crappy mom, IMO but she is still a mom like it or not and her daughter was murdered. But IMO, she did not murder Somer with her own hands. I have openly admitted that I change my opinions and theories -- when I believe in one, it is for a reason. And my new opinion is the MOST STRONG of any opinion I have ever had on this case. I think it is fine for people to still suspect mom or whomever they want. IMO, to be a good sleuther you would always being willing to keep an open mind to look into evidence and such over and over and over--when all is said and done -if your opinion is still the same then so be it.

That is what WS is about - sleuthing.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Well, the investigator was wrong. There was a high safety risk.

I feel very very strongly it is the schools fault and never should have let elementary school kids walk in the first place.I hold them responsible.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Just to be fair, I hope the ENTIRE article was read.

Snipped from article:

But a two-week probe by Children and Families concluded the allegation about the children getting lost and being found with a stranger had no basis. It also found Diena Thompson properly arranged for her children to be taken to and from school, about a mile away, and that it was acceptable for them to walk home when necessary. Day care was suggested to her as an option, but not a requirement.

The case was closed without any findings of wrongdoing, according to the records provided to the Times-Union last week.

Thank you.I read The case was closed without any findings of wrongdoing,

Case closed.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Did you not read half the article that said it was looked into and found that she did nothing wrong?
Case dismissed.
Just becuase she was reported, does not mean she did anything wrong.
The article clearly states it was looked into and the case was closed.

They knew the kids would be walking home sometimes and they were ok with that.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

The recommendations/suggestions weren't followed.
DFS decided that DT was working to rectify safety issues and she didn't.

Also, "Thompson said a family friend had been transporting the children and that would continue." DFS can only go by what info was given to them. They aren't the police etc who can enforce anything. They were just going by what DT told them and she denied knowing her kids got lost or wandered.

And that it was acceptable for them to walk home when necessary.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Case closed.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

And, I might add, when all this came about, I was appauled that DT let ST walk home from school. It's true. My posts in Thread one/Day one will show it.

But, as the case evolved and more info came out, I saw that she was not walking home alone...she had siblings with her...and countless other neighborhood kids did the exact same thing EVERYDAY. So, should we get a patty wagon and go pick up all those parents for neglect as well?
Or is DT just more "guilty" because a monster killed her child.

Her actions were no different than those other parents IMO

And, it has been stated, it was common for several families in that community to do the same exact thing. Maybe not now, but it was at the time.

IMO