FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #33

[Noway]

Attendance Zones
http://www.clay.k12.fl.us/PDF/2010_attendance_zones.pdf

OLJH
Attendance Zone Map (noway not official from school district)


Map of some streets
(i think you'll get the area; K is the school)


Link to list of OLJH attendance zone streets (not official)

 

[sadnpod]

Goodnight all...

Maybe tomorrow....

 

[txsvicki]

Wow, I've been out ill with two abscessed teeth and haven't been on here much. Now I read references that Diena did have dfcs complaints called in about the kids getting lost in the woods and being found with a man! I'm not going to try and read back through a jillion posts to find the original post and actual facts about this, but that is outrageous. Being found with a man in the woods and Somer's habit of wandering. This really makes me think that someone had been targetting her for awhile. That it was not just a random snatch and grab a child off the street. Also, it proves that Diena was investigated and even more reason the family had to try and enforce that Somer quit wandering around. Also, I'm not buying the excuse that after school care didn't stay open late enough. If 6 isn't late enough then the parent needs to quit classes and whatever and get themselves home. If they can't afford reduced rates then quit snacking, eating out, getting nails done, and even smoking or drinking caffeine, IMO. I'm figuring that she didn't want to cut down financially any more that she probably already had to being single and didn't want to come home every night after work. The after school care would not let kids just walk away unattended by an adult.

 

[Hippy Chick]

Did I ever give any indication that I don't feel for Somer's siblings?
I know they did not cause this.
I am not concentrating on defense of DT. But, I do have my own thoughts and opinions. I can state them. If posters can state they think DT was neglagent, I can state I don't think she was.

Just because I don't share the popular opinion does not make mine any less valid IMO.

The reason I mentioned Adams case was to make a point. If you read my post you will see I stated that very plainly. It is similar in the fact a child died by being taken and murdered. Weather is was in an instant or 30 minutes, the outcome is the same.

Again, my posts are my opinion.

I know we are in the minority here but i agree with you don't see her involvment at all

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Txsvicki: you need to go back a couple of pages and click the link to the actual article because a lot of what you said in your post is nowhere near what it said. I would post the link but I'm reading from my phone and it's very hard for me to do it.

 

[Hippy Chick]

bringing this up after discussing with some friends....who really get the full credit:


if DT isn't working now, and she is so careful and concerned for her kids.....then why isn't she the one who is dropping them off and picking them up from school?


She still had other people doing it for her??? :furious: its right there in the article

Maybe its to fresh and raw for her to drive to the school and see all of Somers classmates happy and playing and going to school like her own little girl should be doing. She would be doing all these things if some monster had not murdered her. My first husband(daughters father) was killed in a car wreck in 1984 and I couldn't drive past the spot for years without getting physically ill and I still to this day have a sick feeling if I have to drive past there. Maybe the neighbor volenteered to do this for DT until she is able to do it herself, It would be hard to see all of the other little children knowing yours was dead...IMO

 

[Hippy Chick]

I would like to know what constitutes "necessary", given that they walked home all of the time and that Somer ran off constantly. "Necessary" to whom? With free after-school care offered on the campus, it would not have been necessary for them to walk home at all, nor for neighbors to have to take them home. As it was, they walked home, and were not supervised there until after 4:00 p.m. at least, whenever DT came home, depending on when she got home. And BTW she was not a "single mom", she had a live-in boyfriend. That gives her one more option for assistance, financial or other.

If the after school child care was free why did DFS state in their report that she couldn't afford it? And another reason was it closed @ 6 and she wouldn't have been able to get off work and get there in a timely fashion. Her live in BF may have not been much help money wise if he had alot of bills of his own and child support to pay. Does anyone know and sorry if its been stated but did DT get child support from ST for these children?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I've seen the child support issue both ways. IIRC DT says no. But I don't know how accurate that is.

 

[Hippy Chick]

Praying that LE finds the clues ...

Amen may this beautiful child rest in peace and her killer go to the very depths of Hell...

 

[sadnpod]

It was a matter of priorities... does anything else really need to be said?

 

[pinamia]

It was a matter of priorities... does anything else really need to be said?

Don't forget responsibilities. You have a child. You need to provide safety for that child. She or he can't just wander unattended. That's called neglect if a parent fails to do so especially if it's a repeated and even documented that this had happened before.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

I have not heard she wandered off all the time.Children and Families did concluded the allegation about the children getting lost and being found with a stranger had no basis.They found no neglect and neither do I.The case really is closed.Maybe we should move on to the facts we do know.This is doing nothing to help find out who killed little Somer.Hopefully we'll hear of an arrest soon so Somer does get justice.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

This is from the reporter who wrote the story.I have alot of respect for him and somers mother.My heart does go out to Somers mother and family.I pray they find Somers killer and Justice is done for this pretty little girl.



Diena Thompson has been victimized in the worst way by what a brutal killer did to her daughter. I have found inspiration in her strength and in those who have supported her. My job is to report on what we as a newspaper decide are relevant developments in this case - past or present - and to do it in a fair, balanced and accurate manner. I will continue to do that job to the best of my ability, never forgetting that a loving mother has lost her baby girl.
Jim

 

[pinamia]

I have not heard she wandered off all the time.Children and Families did concluded the allegation about the children getting lost and being found with a stranger had no basis.They found no neglect and neither do I.The case really is closed.Maybe we should move on to the facts we do know.This is doing nothing to help find out who killed little Somer.Hopefully we'll hear of an arrest soon so Somer does get justice.

Her babysitter said so on the news. Someone else made that comment who lived in the neighborhood. And Somer did wander the day she died. School made a complaint on October 12, 2008 that led to the investigation. Case being unfounded doesn't mean that she didn't wander just that her mom was cooperative. That's proof enough for me that she wandered.

I am very upset because the signs were there and no one stopped this behavior. This is important because signs need to be recognized. This child didn't have to fall prey.

 

[ChickenPants]

If you have never been thru what DT has gone thru, how would anybody know
what she should be doing now? I mean, is there a manual somewhere she should
get?
I just don't get it. This woman lost her child. Yes, she let her walk home with her
siblings and countless other children. Yes she feels defensive because of what
has been thrown at her since it happened.
But, how can anybody say they know what she should be doing? I don't get it.

In all of the unsolved child homicides where the parent is still not ruled out as a suspect (of either intentional or unintentional complicity), ALL MOTHERS will be exempt due to their grief that the child is dead - according to this theory.

 

[sadnpod]

We can all say its not DT's fault. We can all say its ST's fault if he didnt support his kids. We can all say DFCS did or didnt do their job.

The end result is the same. Somer's death was because she was an easy target.. IMO. ALL of these circumstances led to that. The warnings were there. If you dont listen when life gives us warnings, you end up smacked in the head, or worse until you do.

I survived without child support, or free day care. PRIORITIES. Cigarettes, nails or after school care? You decide.

WHY, WHY, WHY is the noncustodial parent not notified if dfcs is called on their children?????

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Not exempt...never said that. But, where is the proof that DT was at fault?
I have seen none.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

We can all say its not DT's fault. We can all say its ST's fault it he didnt support his kids. We can all say DFCS did or didnt do their job.

The end result is the same. Somer's death was because she was an easy target.. IMO. ALL of these circumstances led to that. The warnings were there. If you dont listen when life gives us warnings, you end up smacked in the head, or worse until you do.

I survived without child support, or free day care. PRIORITIES. Cigarettes, nails or after school care? You decide.

WHY, WHY, WHY is the noncustodial parent not notified if dfcs is called on their children?????

Where was Sammy T?
Did he not make it his business to know what was going on with his children?
Were there child support payments?
These are questions I'd like to know.
Because, even if he wasn't in their lives, he should have supported them with
child support checks. IMO


Also, why does the cigarette and nails statement keep popping up?
I must have missed something.

 

[ChickenPants]

The article states her siblings have received rides everyday since. It doesn't state who is giving them rides, whether it is DT or the neighbors.

IF it is not DT, but those "neighbors" (a vague term), THE ONLY REASON POSTED HERE HAS BEEN:

- DT can't handle seeing the route Somer took to and from schoolWell, maybe she doesn't drive them because she doesn't like being "viewed like a circus act" (quoted from a former media interview);

...She is busy studying for nursing school

...she has sessions with her therapeutic counselor then...

...she doesn't want to get caught in the traffic at the car rider loop...

...it's been suggested by her lawyer not to drive the children...

...or other possible reasons_____________________________

DCFS recommended that she solve this problem. She allegedly left it up to neighbors before. Now, if she is indeed home, and she still leaves it up to neighbors, it's a sad commentary. Go ahead and defend DT all you want.

But in light of this cruel and tragic death, (and she allegedly does not know how Somer died or how much she suffered) no matter how much she is grieving, the common sense thing would be to personally supervise one's own surviving children.

IMO I would spend every possible amount of time with those kids, how many chances can one take? As she said, "tell them you love them because you never know what can happen..." "You think you are busy when you really weren't that busy..." If she is not accompanying them to school, then she is too busy for some reason.

Base this on her own insistence that the only reason the children walked home was because there were no buses for them, and that it is not her fault that it only takes a second for a monster to grab them. It will be her fault if a monster grabs another of her chldren because she was not there.

 

[ChickenPants]

Wow, I've been out ill with two abscessed teeth and haven't been on here much. Now I read references that Diena did have dfcs complaints called in about the kids getting lost in the woods and being found with a man! I'm not going to try and read back through a jillion posts to find the original post and actual facts about this, but that is outrageous. Being found with a man in the woods and Somer's habit of wandering. This really makes me think that someone had been targetting her for awhile. That it was not just a random snatch and grab a child off the street. Also, it proves that Diena was investigated and even more reason the family had to try and enforce that Somer quit wandering around. Also, I'm not buying the excuse that after school care didn't stay open late enough. If 6 isn't late enough then the parent needs to quit classes and whatever and get themselves home. If they can't afford reduced rates then quit snacking, eating out, getting nails done, and even smoking or drinking caffeine, IMO. I'm figuring that she didn't want to cut down financially any more that she probably already had to being single and didn't want to come home every night after work. The after school care would not let kids just walk away unattended by an adult.

Sorry about your teeth. Worst pain...

What about having CPC or grandma and grandpa (or the mysterious neighbor or neighbors) pick up the children either after school or from the after-school program? CPC was home by six, right? There were a lot of choices, IMO. DT states she made $14.00 per hour, and anyone is welcome to re-sleuth CPC's income. Suffice to say that they were not at the poverty level and would probably have to used the "reduced rate". Was she going to nursing school on a grant - or was she really going to nursing school at all? This information came from her MySPace page, if I recall. So it is what she posted there, period.

We are talking about the current situation now...apparently CPC has moved out, so now she only has the money from the fund raisers (anyone have an updated amount here) to use for reduced rate after school program. But then it would look strange if, having quit work, she put her surviving children in an after school program.

So which would be more strange? Putting kids in a program with activities and peer support and picking them up yourself, or continuing to just let neighbors pick them up and deliver them to your door?

Eating out, getting nails done, smoking, etc...I can't speak to that. We all have our little ways of coping in life. I am in no way prepared to judge DT for any thing she has ever said or done or thought or whatever that is not in the realm of compromising her chldrens' safety....especially after a DCFS investigation, which is a giant red flag and would rattle any parent's mind unless they were just stubborn. If DCFS doesn't make you re-think your priorities and do the right things, nothing will, IMO.