FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #34

[Tricia]

OK Kids here is the deal,

We are more than likely going to give Somer her own sub forum. The only reason I am hesitant is because there has been some issues with keeping the discussion on topic and such.

Come one everyone help us out here. You know what to do and what not to do right?

 

[Dee10]

Didn't know a COD was given - I know she was murdered, but exactly what caused her death is unknown to me. What was it? TIA

I didn't say they released to the public. :waitasec:

 

[houndstooth]

Her parents owned the home in which they live. I would think that allowances would be made on any rent paid (if any) that would alleviate a lot of financial burden if the free services were refused. It does not seem insurmountable to me. On that front anyway.

As a person who has named about 10 different things on various threads that stand out to me that point to her as MY number one suspect, still, I was curious as to what evidence you know of that points to someone else?
TIA

I have yet to see a single word as to HOW mom Diena murdered her child or WHY - just that her parenting skills were poor and she was negligent and Somer was used as a way to prove the point about negligence.

Her parents still have to pay for taxes on that home - do you know for sure she didn't pay rent to them? And really, what she has to pay to have a roof over her head has little, if anything, to do with Somer. I would love to hear the 10 reasons you think mom Diena murdered her child - murdering your own child does not come from turning down day care...does it? MOO

LE is NOT obligated to tell the public the facts! Mom Diena was going to school to become a nurse...worked at a dentist office, not sure of the hours. Seems to me, EVERY word, movement, gesture and so on pertaining to mom Diena has been picked apart and put through the wringer. NOT ONE piece of evidence points to her. The suggestion that mom Diena wasn't the 'perfect' mom in no way exonerates the murderer. As a matter of fact, it deters from focusing on the real perp. ALL JUST MY humble opinon

ETA: regarding childcare - it was an option that mom Diena said she couldn't afford. If you put one twin in, you must put the other in and that would leave the 10yo going home by herself. So she would have to pay for at least 3 children. Maybe if she was getting her child support that would have happened. mho

I was asking what evidence you have that points to someone else?

There was no response to this question, the others were answered in the above.

How was she killed? I wasn't there I wouldn't know.

You name 10 things that point to someone else and I will post mine. Deal?

 

[Dee10]

OK Kids here is the deal,

We are more than likely going to give Somer her own sub forum. The only reason I am hesitant is because there has been some issues with keeping the discussion on topic and such.

Come one everyone help us out here. You know what to do and what not to do right?

Thank you Tricia, it would save a lot of confusion and people could stay out of threads they have no interest in, so less bickering & less work. :dance:

:woohoo:

 

[dar107]

Yes, they do that a recent example is in New York, the little boy the boyfriend was looking after who went missing (wondered out the door) shortly before this Christmas (I believe). They cleared the mother & father publicly. Can't remember the little guy's name.

Well thats one case but I was questioning whether or not it is standard procedure. I have nerver personally in all the cases I have seen, seen that done before, in any case where a stranger abduction turned out to be the case, and would assume it was because there was no need to clear the parent as there was no cause to suspect them in the first case, which is MO here.

 

[houndstooth]

Ooh - I thought you were the one who brought the two articles about dad responding to kids being in the woods with a stranger. Dad T using that article IS about custody!!!

Or it could be to bolster the idea that a stranger did this, not a family member.

 

[Sunshine77]

Sunshine thanks for posting that, but I couldn't find the exact one. Do you recall the date that this was done? Why I ask is after the COD was determined...LE wasn't the ones anymore talking/bringing up about RSO's & sexual preditors, whereas before she was found they were & I am not referring to John Walsh.

News4jax has it added on 10/27...Sheriff refers to the memorial either being that day or the next day (can't remember for sure without rewatching). Cause of death was known for a couple days at that point.

I've gone back and forth with my opinion on this, but this is my current thinking....why say nothing was obvious with the RSO's at first, but they are not ruled out? Were they waiting to rule them out after matching DNA? If there wasn't a sex crime, why would RSO's still be suspects? KWIM?

 

[Sunshine77]

Sunshine thanks for posting that, but I couldn't find the exact one. QUOTE]

I found it by searching for Somer Thompson, videos older than 30 days.

 

[dar107]

There was also mention by LE spokeswaoman Mary Justino, after Somer was found, that there was still 5 RSO's they had been unable to account for. Does anyone know if they were ever located and cleared?

 

[eyes4crime]

I was asking what evidence you have that points to someone else?

There was no response to this question, the others were answered in the above.

How was she killed? I wasn't there I wouldn't know.

You name 10 things that point to someone else and I will post mine. Deal?

How about if I sum up my thoughts about the murderous predator? I don't know the COD - either they don't know or are holding that info to keep the perp on edge. mho

I really do believe that the murderous slug is already behind bars waiting trial for a probation violation. If it turns out not to be him here's what I think:

The murderous predator threw Somer in the garbage knowing full well that she would be compacted and dumped in another state...either he did it this way because he didn't have time or it was a sadistic plan of his. He knew the compacter would destroy little Somer along with most DNA. The person who did this has NO compassion or empathy, plain mean and sadistic. mho

2. He grabbed little Somer in a heartbeat, leaving no evidence or witnesses...that shows me he blended in, was quick and confident of his actions, he has done this before, certainly not his first time. mho

3. Somer was grabbed in broad daylight, at a time when parents were picking up their children, children walking home, LE and crossing guards, etc were around. This tells me the person is confident, knows how to use the environment, can be social if necessary, and fades in and out of the landscape without being noticed. A predator can accomplish such a feat knowing or not knowing the child he has picked. mho

These could all be wrong, but that is my profile of the slug who murdered Somer. A psychological profile of sadism and quick murderous movements completely rule out mom Diena. mho

 

[houndstooth]

Hounds, I would appreciate if you could find that post you made. I would like to read it again. I don't see it as being Diena, but I can't rule her out either. Maybe, just maybe LE will come out & give an update or clear her. Come on they surely know by now if she is in the clear, so why not do it??? I am more leaning to a teen or a few perhaps, but I am not set on that or have ruled anyone out.

What do you think Eyes?

Do you mean a post containing the list of circumstantial evidence that could point to DT as my suspect?

I certainly will. But, before I do so again, I would like for those who have other suspects in mind to list their reasons when, where, why and how ( not murdered, but the body was moved ), as well. Why am I held to higher account for my suspicions than others who merely name someone with no supporting rationale.

 

[Dee10]

News4jax has it added on 10/27...Sheriff refers to the memorial either being that day or the next day (can't remember for sure without rewatching). Cause of death was known for a couple days at that point.

I've gone back and forth with my opinion on this, but this is my current thinking....why say nothing was obvious with the RSO's at first, but theyare not ruled out? Were they waiting to rule them out after matching DNA? If there wasn't a sex crime, why would RSO's still be suspects? KWIM?

I hear you & thanks for cking on that date. IIRC they determined the cause of death either that Friday or Sat. it was very fast. If it wasn't sexually motivated, maybe they still can't rule them out unless they have an iron-clad alibi? But and I stand to be corrected the focus didn't seem to be on them anymore. IDK. I still believe they are looking for a male, based on what to watch out for. They didn't mention a woman cutting or dying her hair, just shaving or growing a beard LOL.

 

[eyes4crime]

Do you mean a post containing the list of circumstantial evidence that could point to DT as my suspect?

I certainly will. But, before I do so again, I would like for those who have other suspects in mind to list their reasons when, where, why and how ( not murdered, but the body was moved ), as well. Why am I held to higher account for my suspicions than others who merely name someone with no supporting rationale.

Who has named someone without supporting rationale? There isn't much info to name a specific person, is there? TIA

 

[houndstooth]

Who has named someone without supporting rationale? There isn't much info to name a specific person, is there? TIA

Countless people have been named on here as suspects without any supporting rationale.

You did not state in you outline anything you think as to the why, when, where, and how the body was moved, either.

 

[Dee10]

Do you mean a post containing the list of circumstantial evidence that could point to DT as my suspect?

I certainly will. But, before I do so again, I would like for those who have other suspects in mind to list their reasons when, where, why and how ( not murdered, but the body was moved ), as well. Why am I held to higher account for my suspicions than others who merely name someone with no supporting rationale.

I know it doesn't seem fair LOL, but you do make good points. I agree with what you asked above but some don't seem to have your courage to put their thoughts out there. But hey, we are getting a sub-forum...that will be wonderful, save it for that. :dance:

 

[houndstooth]

I know it doesn't seem fair LOL, but you do make good points. I agree with what you asked above but some don't seem to have your courage to put their thoughts out there. But hey, we are getting a sub-forum...that will be wonderful, save it for that. :dance:

I am not familiar with a sub-forum. What is the difference than what it is set up as now?

 

[eyes4crime]

Countless people have been named on here as suspects without any supporting rationale.

You did not state in you outline anything you think as to the why, when, where, and how the body was moved, either.

Hopefully, if anyone knows the WHY, WHEN, WHERE, and HOW about this murder, I hope they are in talking with LE!

The murderous slug may have lived around the area and lured Somer into his yard/house with a puppy or kitty. All that is pure speculation right now, isn't it? The most I can do is a profile of what the predator may have been like...and that is speculation also.

The child predator behind bars lost the woman he was living with and attended her wake and funeral. All that is known about predators tells us he had substantial reason to find a victim...he could have been spurred into action by the loss of the woman he was living with and also that he was kicked out of the home he lived in for so long - a home right in that neighborhood. I can't give any more thoughts on the perp until we receive more info. MHO

 

[houndstooth]

I know it doesn't seem fair LOL, but you do make good points. I agree with what you asked above but some don't seem to have your courage to put their thoughts out there. But hey, we are getting a sub-forum...that will be wonderful, save it for that. :dance:

Dee, it would save a lot of needless people being splayed out on the pages for days and weeks and then poof they're gone, ( too bad for them), from the radar. If people would first consider the logistics alone of how this could have been done in such a constricted timeline before putting name(s)
( initials, wink, wink rhymes with...) out there, it would improve the quality of the sleuthing research posted. JMO

 

[eyes4crime]

I am not familiar with a sub-forum. What is the difference than what it is set up as now?

It divides important topics up into different threads. For instance, a thread for 'COD' or for profile of the perp - or how mom Diena could have been a better mother - or any topic of interest. People can gravitate to the areas they are interested in. mho

 

[houndstooth]

Hopefully, if anyone knows the WHY, WHEN, WHERE, and HOW about this murder, I hope they are in talking with LE!

The murderous slug may have lived around the area and lured Somer into his yard/house with a puppy or kitty. All that is pure speculation right now, isn't it? The most I can do is a profile of what the predator may have been like...and that is speculation also.

The child predator behind bars lost the woman he was living with and attended her wake and funeral. All that is known about predators tells us he had substantial reason to find a victim...he could have been spurred into action by the loss of the woman he was living with and also that he was kicked out of the home he lived in for so long - a home right in that neighborhood. I can't give any more thoughts on the perp until we receive more info. MHO

And yet the person you indicate by your description never had crime scene tape around his home. Where do you suppose he commited this crime? What motive, what time, how did he manage to hide the body? Do you think it was a sexual molestation killing. Did it leave DNA? Stuff liike that.