FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #34

[Dee10]

Ooh - I thought you were the one who brought the two articles about dad responding to kids being in the woods with a stranger. Dad T using that article IS about custody!!!

Eyes, Cam asked what was new & I posted the two newspaper articles for her.

 

[eyes4crime]

I find it VERY suspect that the article about the childrens' safety was released yesterday or today, and that dad T. used that article to support his quest for custody. How low can one get? He is, in essence, using his vulnerable children to make his plea!!! moo

 

[camcneishg]

Ooh - I thought you were the one who brought the two articles about dad responding to kids being in the woods with a stranger. Dad T using that article IS about custody!!!

no, I didn't BROUGHT those two articles....infact, I only read the first one, and I do think that you were the one that made sure everyone read the one that the Dad responded to.....Child custody is between DT and ST.....I wanted to discuss the article about the children and the stranger in the woods.....but each time I tried......well, lets just say, it didn't work out very well....seems you can't discuss this case unless to totally omit the mother, and this is not right.....she was the one that should have been there for these kids, and wasn't....MO....sweet dreams.....

 

[eyes4crime]

Eyes, Cam asked what was new & I posted the two newspaper articles for her.

Sorry, my mistake! I get confused between the two threads. :innocent:

 

[Sunshine77]

Thank you Hoppy! Now, back to sleuthing.....Only the Sheriff is cleared here, and the RSO's....that being said, we need to look at everyone else....starting with Somer's family and working away from them.....Somer's Daddy was in a totally diff state when this happened, so in my mind, that clears him....now, Somer's Mom....what do we know about her, and that day? Where was she working? the Jacksonville office, or the Orange Park office? Coming home for lunch break would make a heck of a lot more sense if she were at the Orange Park office, which is right around the corner on Kingsley Ave, from Debarry.....What do we know about SP that was in the home that day for lunch, if this is a fact? What do we know about CPC? Was he at work that day? There are so many to look at.....and so little known.....We know that the children were left to walk home together, after all, DT was a single working Mom and did all that she could, with help from no one....now, this DCF report states that child care was offered and suggested to DT for the children, but that the children were never sent.....why is that? She must have felt they were safe with out this after school care, after all, the neighborhood watched out for the children (her words, not mine)....with DT attending school, I am thinking it must be night school since she worked every day, who watched the children at night when she was in school? The boyfriend? SP? the neighborhood? I cannot just go on the fact that some monster came up out of the blue and did this to Somer......we have to start with the family, Somer's normal surroundings, and work away from that.....MO

BBM.

Uncut: Clay Sheriff Talks about Somer
http://www.news4jax.com/video/index.html

Around the 6:00 minute mark. Reporter questions RSO's being cleared quickly, Sheriff goes on to state contact made with RSO's, says nothing obvious at first but doesn't mean one isn't the suspect. Then makes the much discussed statement of nobody being cleared but him. IMO, RSO's haven't been ruled out.

A few other statements I find interesting in this video. Sheriff refers around the 2:00 minute mark to this being a child abduction case and again around the 8:00 minute mark to this being a child abduction murder case.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

no, I didn't BROUGHT those two articles....infact, I only read the first one, and I do think that you were the one that made sure everyone read the one that the Dad responded to.....Child custody is between DT and ST.....I wanted to discuss the article about the children and the stranger in the woods.....but each time I tried......well, lets just say, it didn't work out very well....seems you can't discuss this case unless to totally omit the mother, and this is not right.....she was the one that should have been there for these kids, and wasn't....MO....sweet dreams.....

I am glad eyes4crime put the other article up.Thank you.It explains it alot better.

 

[eyes4crime]

no, I didn't BROUGHT those two articles....infact, I only read the first one, and I do think that you were the one that made sure everyone read the one that the Dad responded to.....Child custody is between DT and ST.....I wanted to discuss the article about the children and the stranger in the woods.....but each time I tried......well, lets just say, it didn't work out very well....seems you can't discuss this case unless to totally omit the mother, and this is not right.....she was the one that should have been there for these kids, and wasn't....MO....sweet dreams.....

That's right! I did put the article he was responding to up as my comment. How can anyone discuss his response without knowing what he's responding to???? Discussing ONLY the article about the kids in the woods with a stranger led to even more comments as to why mom Diena is/was negligent. And since it wasn't true and was completely UNFOUNDED I thought it would be best to present the whole picture. Sorry if that upset you. moo

 

[Dee10]

Hounds, I would appreciate if you could find that post you made. I would like to read it again. I don't see it as being Diena, but I can't rule her out either. Maybe, just maybe LE will come out & give an update or clear her. Come on they surely know by now if she is in the clear, so why not do it??? I am more leaning to a teen or a few perhaps, but I am not set on that or have ruled anyone out.

What do you think Eyes?

 

[dar107]

IMO the report by dad seems very mean spirited, and at the lowest point in DT's life. The casefile was closed after it was found to be without basis. Somer was not off just roaming around on her own when she was abducted, she was walking home with her siblings, ran ahead of them and they lost sight of her. it would not the first time a child has been abducted in broad daylight. There is no evidence, other then peoples opinions of her parenting style, that points to her having anything to do with the death of her child. There is no apparent motive for her to have anything to do with this.numerous news reports and statements by LE point to this being a case of a child sex predator, and LE has stated to Dt they do not believe this person is someone she knows. DT has been picked apart every which way, its getting old and an extremely sad show of human nature for people to tear apart a greiving mother whose child was taken from her in the worst way, when there is 0 evidence pointing to her IMO.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

IMO the report by dad seems very mean spirited, and at the lowest point in DT's life. The casefile was closed after it was found to be without basis. Somer was not off just roaming around on her own when she was abducted, she was walking home with her siblings, ran ahead of them and they lost sight of her. it would not the first time a child has been abducted in broad daylight. There is no evidence, other then peoples opinions of her parenting style, that points to her having anything to do with the death of her child. There is no apparent motive for her to have anything to do with this.numerous news reports and statements by LE point to this being a case of a child sex predator, and LE has stated to Dt they do not believe this person is someone she knows. DT has been picked apart every which way, its getting old and an extremely sad show of human nature for people to tear apart a greiving mother whose child was taken from her in the worst way, when there is 0 evidence pointing to her IMO.

That was very well said.Thank you.

 

[eyes4crime]

BBM.

Uncut: Clay Sheriff Talks about Somer
http://www.news4jax.com/video/index.html

Around the 6:00 minute mark. Reporter questions RSO's being cleared quickly, Sheriff goes on to state contact made with RSO's, says nothing obvious at first but doesn't mean one isn't the suspect. Then makes the much discussed statement of nobody being cleared but him. IMO, RSO's haven't been ruled out.

A few other statements I find interesting in this video. Sheriff refers around the 2:00 minute mark to this being a child abduction case and again around the 8:00 minute mark to this being a child abduction murder case.

thank you! I couldn't use it, but I guess if a person is looking for evidence that mom Diena is the murderous perp, the sheriffs statement could be used as support. moo

 

[houndstooth]

As I read this report, doesn't it say that all four children got lost at least one time and ended up in the woods with a stranger? Maybe I am reading this wrong but this seems like a strange situation indeed. Who reported this to the school social worker? If it was indicated that all 4 chidren should not walk home, why doesn't the school provide buses? I would not be suprised if other children in the neighborhood had similar experiences at least once. Who was this stranger and why was LE not notified ?? And shouldn't this report be confidential?

Well either the report that stated that someone found them in the woods with some man never occured in the first place, or the person who claimed to have found them lied about finding them. Why else would the report be the incident was baseless, having no foundation in fact?

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Well either the report that stated that someone found them in the woods with some man never occured in the first place, or the person who claimed to have found them lied about finding them. Why else would the report be the incident was baseless, having no foundation in fact?

I'm leaning towards it being a false allegation since it was found to be unfounded and the case closed.

 

[dar107]

Hounds, I would appreciate if you could find that post you made. I would like to read it again. I don't see it as being Diena, but I can't rule her out either. Maybe, just maybe LE will come out & give an update or clear her. Come on they surely know by now if she is in the clear, so why not do it??? I am more leaning to a teen or a few perhaps, but I am not set on that or have ruled anyone out.

What do you think Eyes?

would it be standard procedure for LE to come out and say this person and that person has been cleared. She has never been alluded to as a suspect, so why would they. Maybe they are not because they dont feel a need to as they dont think she has anything to with it, and they are to busy with more important things to make a list of cleared people to appease all of us.

 

[txsvicki]

I don't see how any agency could rule that the kids were safe walking home if they didn't even know their way home from school. If they were all together as they were supposed to be then the 9 year old should have known the way. I'm not buying that the kids got lost and ended up in the woods. Who the heck was this stranger and how did the kids end up with a stranger? If DFCS was called by some neighbor or teacher then this person must have felt that these particular kids were in danger due to not having enough supervision. If hoardes of children walked home from this school and if it's such a normal everyday thing that people should be allowed to do then why single out one little family and report them to the agency. The news of the kids in the woods should have come out long ago. Somer may have continued to go into the woods alone when she ran off from her siblings, which is probably exactly what happened last year.

 

[Dee10]

BBM.

Uncut: Clay Sheriff Talks about Somer
http://www.news4jax.com/video/index.html

Around the 6:00 minute mark. Reporter questions RSO's being cleared quickly, Sheriff goes on to state contact made with RSO's, says nothing obvious at first but doesn't mean one isn't the suspect. Then makes the much discussed statement of nobody being cleared but him. IMO, RSO's haven't been ruled out.

A few other statements I find interesting in this video. Sheriff refers around the 2:00 minute mark to this being a child abduction case and again around the 8:00 minute mark to this being a child abduction murder case.

Sunshine thanks for posting that, but I couldn't find the exact one. Do you recall the date that this was done? Why I ask is after the COD was determined...LE wasn't the ones anymore talking/bringing up about RSO's & sexual preditors, whereas before she was found they were & I am not referring to John Walsh.

 

[Sunshine77]

Well either the report that stated that someone found them in the woods with some man never occured in the first place, or the person who claimed to have found them lied about finding them. Why else would the report be the incident was baseless, having no foundation in fact?

A friend of mine got a report made about her children a couple years ago. She was having a BBQ at her home. She has three teenagers who also invited some friends, and some didn't show. Her one child went to school the next day, and was overhead by school employees telling her friends that didn't show how they should have been there, and her parents let them all drink (guess in her teenage mind this sounded cool). School employees reported this, as they should. It was found untrue when investigated. Many witnesses, including myself, could verify that no children and most of the adults weren't drinking.

Not saying that's what happened in this case, but giving an example of how reports get made like this and can turn out to be untrue.

 

[dar107]

I don't see how any agency could rule that the kids were safe walking home if they didn't even know their way home from school. If they were all together as they were supposed to be then the 9 year old should have known the way. I'm not buying that the kids got lost and ended up in the woods. Who the heck was this stranger and how did the kids end up with a stranger? If DFCS was called by some neighbor or teacher then this person must have felt that these particular kids were in danger due to not having enough supervision. If hoardes of children walked home from this school and if it's such a normal everyday thing that people should be allowed to do then why single out one little family and report them to the agency. The news of the kids in the woods should have come out long ago. Somer may have continued to go into the woods alone when she ran off from her siblings, which is probably exactly what happened last year.

The report, if true said all 4 children were together at the time.It said nothing about Somer being alone in the woods. I just don't see how it has any bearing on what happened the day Somer was abducted.There was a great number of children walking home with friends or siblings that day juat as she was. She ran ahead and apparently someone saw an opportunity to grab her. This could happen to anyones child, there are numerous cases when a parent only turned their backs for a moment and had their child abducted.

 

[eyes4crime]

Sunshine thanks for posting that, but I couldn't find the exact one. Do you recall the date that this was done? Why I ask is after the COD was determined...LE wasn't the ones anymore talking/bringing up about RSO's & sexual preditors, whereas before she was found they were & I am not referring to John Walsh.

Didn't know a COD was given - I know she was murdered, but exactly what caused her death is unknown to me. What was it? TIA

 

[Dee10]

would it be standard procedure for LE to come out and say this person and that person has been cleared. She has never been alluded to as a suspect, so why would they. Maybe they are not because they dont feel a need to as they dont think she has anything to with it, and they are to busy with more important things to make a list of cleared people to appease all of us.

Yes, they do that a recent example is in New York, the little boy the boyfriend was looking after who went missing (wondered out the door) shortly before this Christmas (I believe). They cleared the mother & father publicly. Can't remember the little guy's name.