FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #40

[New1]

Thanks Doc....WOW, so someone saw her sitting in his yard that day with her face in her hands?
That was a great catch.

JH makes me sick. How these monsters pray on innocent children is beyond sick. Poor Somer, she was most likely upset about the spat she had and wanted to see and pet "Buddy". Animals can make a child feel so much better.

Yes, and isn't it sad that the family got a puppy after somer was killed? She loved dogs and if she had a puppy waiting for her at home that day, she probably would not have stopped off to sit in JH's yard. When she ran ahead of her siblings, it might have been that she would have ran straight home to pet the puppy waiting for her there. Heart breaking thing to think about what might have been.

 

[eyes4crime]

Looks like he had the perfect lure, if Somer was looking to pet the dog, he could have easily said come inside to see the dog.

Not sure why I'm following this video! I'm confused. Didn't the dog go with mom when she moved? Did they say when Somer got to know the dog 'buddy'? Was it over a period of time or in one day? Someone saw Somer in the backyard with her hand covering her face - wonder if she was looking for the dog?

This poor baby - her love of animals was used to allure her to the house? Was she visiting the yard when mom and dad lived there?

 

[Kimster]

Kimster, are you our MOD in our new home?

No ma'am. Just a visitor.

 

[Noway]

Eyes, a friend of Somer's said she (Somer) used to stop and pet the dog at 1152 but that the owners never came out.

IF she stopped to pet the dog that day, and the dog was not there (as we believe) then JH could have said the dog was in the house and Somer would have gone in to see the dog.

She loved dogs according to her mom, and whenever anyone walked down the street with a dog. Somer would run out of the house to pet the dog. She did not have boundaries as far as going with strangers, and IMO he would not have had to "entice" very hard. Diena said it was hard to say, but that she did think Somer would go with a stranger.

I know my 4 year old and I have very different ideas of what a stranger is. A lady in the park was not a stranger (in her mind) because as she later told me, "She was nice and and she had a dog. She wasn't a stranger because she told me her name and the dog's name."

I know there is a difference between 4 and 7 but you think you're clear explaining something to a child, and then you realize you are not.

 

[Noway]

Also, was Somer in the front yard or the back yard? (I thought video just said yard but will listen again.) Maybe her hand was in her face because he told her the dog was gone, that the family had moved and taken the dog ... and Somer never got to say good-bye.

Just thinking that whoever saw her in the backyard would have had to have been neighbor. I don't know if you can see into the backyard from the sidewalk/street?

ETA
Street view shot of house ... I think it must have been front yard. Shed on one side blocks view into back and on other there are trees.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Yes, and isn't it sad that the family got a puppy after somer was killed? She loved dogs and if she had a puppy waiting for her at home that day, she probably would not have stopped off to sit in JH's yard. When she ran ahead of her siblings, it might have been that she would have ran straight home to pet the puppy waiting for her there. Heart breaking thing to think about what might have been.

Yeah and maybe she stopped there wanting to tell the dog about the new puppy her Mom was getting her. So that would be the mom's fault too.

It is a no win situation with some people who seem to forget it was a Monster who was responsible for killing Somer.

You could include different people all day in the what ifs but I think it is nonsense to do that. The blame should be placed on the Monster.

 

[Noway]

Kimster, are you our MOD in our new home?

I think Tricia is. (Crimes and Trials)

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showgroups.php

 

[dar107]

Not sure why I'm following this video! I'm confused. Didn't the dog go with mom when she moved? Did they say when Somer got to know the dog 'buddy'? Was it over a period of time or in one day? Someone saw Somer in the backyard with her hand covering her face - wonder if she was looking for the dog?

This poor baby - her love of animals was used to allure her to the house? Was she visiting the yard when mom and dad lived there?

From what i got, Somer took it upon herself to call the dog Buddy, not that it was actually the dogs name. I wonder why we never heard that she was seen in this backyard, I find that odd, I am very curious to now if JH house was searched that night or if they just thought it was empty and all locked up. The life of this sweet little girl just for a few minutes of sick satisfaction, sick creep. Too bad there is not Death Penalty via slow torture! He was 24 yrs old and he damn well knew what he did was wrong, regardless of his upbringing. I can see the lawyers will try to use all the crap about his mom and his childhood in his defence. Can anyone tell me how fast this process will be to get started, Canada can take years to bring cases to trial, it is ridiculous.

 

[Noway]

I don't think you are saying that if Somer had a dog of her own, she would not have been abducted/murdered. Dog lovers stop and pet every dog they see (my experience, not fact). Somer loved dogs, so even if she had one of her own, that does not mean she would not have stopped to pet this one.

FWIW, Doc, the owner made a donation to the silent auction and gave a puppy to the Thompsons as well.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=147181&catid=3

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I don't think you are saying that if Somer had a dog of her own, she would not have been abducted/murdered. Dog lovers stop and pet every dog they see (my experience, not fact). Somer loved dogs, so even if she had one of her own, that does not mean she would not have stopped to pet this one.

FWIW, Doc, the owner made a donation to the silent auction and gave a puppy to the Thompsons as well.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=147181&catid=3

I think that is what New1 said and meant.

 

[dar107]

``Could haves, should haves, what ifs, and if onlys``every person who has gone through a tragedy, intended or accidental must go through that. The thing is dwelling on the what ifs only brings more pain and guilt, and does nothing constructive for oneself`s healing process. You can still see that in Diena, but I think all the prayers and support have given her strength to keep going. I can`t express enough how much I admire her courage, and I believe she has what it takes to become a great victims advocate, which I also belive is what she personally needs to do right now to help herself cope and stay busy. You can see the fire in her eyes when she talks about wanting to help others who will have to go through what she went through. And I think Somer will be the angel on her shoulder the whole way, she must be looking down from heaven so proud of her mom.

 

[Noway]

According to Sam Thompson (Somer's dad) in video at [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBJ6N0S3Hgs[/ame] @ about 2:28 marker.

Mike: Samuel, are ... what are police telling you? Are they telling you how about Somer may have crossed paths with this guy?

Sam: Well, he had a dog that she used to love to go by and pet, and I think Detective West told me she had named him Buddy, and that day, you know, she'd had a squabble and she, somebody saw her sitting in the yard, with her hands in her face, about 3:15, but the dog wasn't in the yard, you know, the dog wasn't there. ...


Transcription may not be 100 percent accurate, emphasis on yard is mine, and it was yard he said.

 

[Noway]

I just wanted to make it known that we don't know whether it was the front yard or the back yard.

But I wonder who it was who saw her.

 

[New1]

Not sure why I'm following this video! I'm confused. Didn't the dog go with mom when she moved? Did they say when Somer got to know the dog 'buddy'? Was it over a period of time or in one day? Someone saw Somer in the backyard with her hand covering her face - wonder if she was looking for the dog?

This poor baby - her love of animals was used to allure her to the house? Was she visiting the yard when mom and dad lived there?

I don't believe it was said which yard she was seen sitting in, the backyard or the front....I guess I just assumed it was the front yard. That's what I had in my minds eye. She had been seen petting the white dog before, by kids I think, but the dog was moved to Callahan when the parents moved out according to some reports I have read, so he was not there that day. My personal opinion here, but I don't believe somer didn't know the dog was gone after not seeing it there for 2 weeks or so when she passed by the house going to and from school.

 

[eyes4crime]

Eyes, a friend of Somer's said she (Somer) used to stop and pet the dog at 1152 but that the owners never came out.

IF she stopped to pet the dog that day, and the dog was not there (as we believe) then JH could have said the dog was in the house and Somer would have gone in to see the dog.

She loved dogs according to her mom, and whenever anyone walked down the street with a dog. Somer would run out of the house to pet the dog. She did not have boundaries as far as going with strangers, and IMO he would not have had to "entice" very hard. Diena said it was hard to say, but that she did think Somer would go with a stranger.

I know my 4 year old and I have very different ideas of what a stranger is. A lady in the park was not a stranger (in her mind) because as she later told me, "She was nice and and she had a dog. She wasn't a stranger because she told me her name and the dog's name."

I know there is a difference between 4 and 7 but you think you're clear explaining something to a child, and then you realize you are not.

I'm such an animal lover - I would have a hard time calling any dog or cat a 'stranger'. The definition would never fit for me.

 

[eyes4crime]

According to Sam Thompson (Somer's dad) in video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBJ6N0S3Hgs @ about 2:28 marker.

Mike: Samuel, are ... what are police telling you? Are they telling you how about Somer may have crossed paths with this guy?

Sam: Well, he had a dog that she used to love to go by and pet, and I think Detective West told me she had named him Buddy, and that day, you know, she'd had a squabble and she, somebody saw her sitting in the yard, with her hands in her face, about 3:15, but the dog wasn't in the yard, you know, the dog wasn't there. ...


Transcription may not be 100 percent accurate, emphasis on yard is mine, and it was yard he said.

That poor little sweetheart - we will never know if her hands were covering her face because the dog was gone or because of the squabble, or both. For the sake of her siblings, I hope they hear this was because the dog was gone. Can you just imagine the 'guilt' these children must be feeling - that's where counseling will be invaluable. all just my opinion ajmo

 

[Noway]

I too thought it was the front yard and wondered where people were getting "back yard" from.

I listened again, and he just says "yard" which I still take to mean the front yard.

One of the children walking reported seeing Somer near Grove Park and Gano, so I wondered if it was her who reported this.

ETA
You are right that she would have likely known the dog was not there after passing by for two weeks. But we don't really know when the dog was taken to Callahan. We assume AD took it with her when she moved, but she may have wanted to get settled in the house first, and then come for the dog.

 

[New1]

Yeah and maybe she stopped there wanting to tell the dog about the new puppy her Mom was getting her. So that would be the mom's fault too.

It is a no win situation with some people who seem to forget it was a Monster who was responsible for killing Somer.

You could include different people all day in the what ifs but I think it is nonsense to do that. The blame should be placed on the Monster.

I DO place the blame on the killer, Dr. Fessell! Nobody or nothing CAUSED him to do it except pure evil. That being said, I think your reply to my post is rude if you are grouping me into those "some people" and your sarcastic remark about not having a puppy at home making it the mom's fault.

 

[Noway]

Maybe Annis came on 10/19 to get the dog ... and that is why she (said she) was Jarred's alibi.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I DO place the blame on the killer, Dr. Fessell! Nobody or nothing CAUSED him to do it except pure evil. That being said, I think your reply to my post is rude if you are grouping me into those "some people" and your sarcastic remark about not having a puppy at home making it the mom's fault.

New1:

I'm not trying to be rude at all but I took your post about the puppy the same way as Doc did. Maybe we just read it wrong.
If so, sorry.