FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #40

[Noway]

Well, I'm glad that is straightened out.

There has not been any word from any family of Jarred's since his arrest for Somer's murder, has there?

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

``Could haves, should haves, what ifs, and if onlys``every person who has gone through a tragedy, intended or accidental must go through that. The thing is dwelling on the what ifs only brings more pain and guilt, and does nothing constructive for oneself`s healing process. You can still see that in Diena, but I think all the prayers and support have given her strength to keep going. I can`t express enough how much I admire her courage, and I believe she has what it takes to become a great victims advocate, which I also belive is what she personally needs to do right now to help herself cope and stay busy. You can see the fire in her hires when she talks about wanting to help others who will have to go through what she went through. And I think Somer will be the angel on her shoulder the whole way, she must be looking down from heaven so proud of her mom.

I think it is lovely that the Thonmpson family has a puppy. I can relate this to my own experience of loss and grief, especially after my husband died suddenly after heart surgery, My youngest, then 7yrs. old and myself were grieving a lot. The house seemed so empty. I had an idea one day, and we drove an hour out of town and picked up the most cute puppy! An Australian mini fox terrier, we named Joey. My son nursed her all the way home in the car and she slept in our beds. She was such a joy at an awful time, and made us laugh so much. Dogs are wonderful for calming the spirit, and i hope the puppy the Thompson's have will bring them much laughter and joy in this most difficult time in their lives. If nothing else just to ease the pain a bit.

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

Oh, and i forgot to say in my previous post, that yes, as grieving parents i have not met one that hasn't gone through the guilt trip, yet we come to the resolution that ultimately there is nothing we could of done, and we don't really know the "big picture" in all of this. In other words we don't really know the reasons 'WHY". I sobbed "WHY" many a time after my son died, yet i received no answer, and in time it is something we just accept, because that is the way it has been, there is nothing we can change to bring our loved one back, and we have no choice in their death.

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

I just wanted to make it known that we don't know whether it was the front yard or the back yard.

But I wonder who it was who saw her.

Hmmm, that is interesting and haven't heard of this before! I wonder who saw her in J.H's yard, and once the alert went out and L.E. going to houses in the surrounding area, did this person not recognise it was Somer, if they saw her that afternoon? This seems a bit odd to me, but i don't know. If a neighbour, i don't know if he/she was questioned by L.E.? This could have led to a very early arrest, but i don't know about maybe getting to Somer before the crime was committed.

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

You know i don't remember where, but i once wrote on a blog, re missing and abducted children, that my idea was it may get to the stage where we can have some kind of chip implanted into our children, that will immediately tell their whereabouts. It would be a very small device that a doctor could do the procedure in a location on the child's body that would be confidential between the medical practitioner and the parents. Like a small tracking device. Then the parent would have some kind of device that links them to their child at all times, so they can check often to the child's location at any time of the day. Then when the child is older it could be removed. Sounds drastic i guess, but it could give a lot of parents peace of mind, and make perps think twice about abducting a child!

 

[New1]

You know i don't remember where, but i once wrote on a blog, re missing and abducted children, that my idea was it may get to the stage where we can have some kind of chip implanted into our children, that will immediately tell their whereabouts. It would be a very small device that a doctor could do the procedure in a location on the child's body that would be confidential between the medical practitioner and the parents. Like a small tracking device. Then the parent would have some kind of device that links them to their child at all times, so they can check often to the child's location at any time of the day. Then when the child is older it could be removed. Sounds drastic i guess, but it could give a lot of parents peace of mind, and make perps think twice about abducting a child!

I have often thought of this idea too. They can do it now with pets, why not with children? I don't agree, however, about having it taken out when they are older, because a missing child is someone's child no matter how old they are it is still just as bad to have one missing at any age I would think. I don't think that will ever be implemented, of course, but I still think it's a great idea. I don't know if it would stop a prev from snatching a child or not, but it would save precious time in tracking the child down. They would know exactly where to look.

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

I have often thought of this idea too. They can do it now with pets, why not with children? I don't agree, however, about having it taken out when they are older, because a missing child is someone's child no matter how old they are it is still just as bad to have one missing at any age I would think. I don't think that will ever be implemented, of course, but I still think it's a great idea. I don't know if it would stop a prev from snatching a child or not, but it would save precious time in tracking the child down. They would know exactly where to look.

I was thinking they could if they wanted to have it removed when they were older, it would be discussed with their parents, when they are old enough to understand of course, and then they can decide for themselves at some stage if they want to keep it in place or not. I wouldn't like to see it become mandatory, i think like with most things it should be a personal choice, depending on how the parents feel. But at least it could be a choice. I guess only time would tell if it would turn perps off the idea of abducting a child, and maybe if they knew the risk of getting caught was higher, maybe they would think again before they acted that out. I think it is something that could be worked on scientifically, so they could refine it somehow to be pretty foolproof, seeing as it seems technology is so amazing these days, and they are ever advancing in that area.

 

[eyes4crime]

I think Tricia is. (Crimes and Trials)

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showgroups.php

I go to 'Crimes and Trials' and do NOT see any Somer Thompson thread - what am I doing wrong? TIA

ETA: Just found the thread in 'currently awaiting trial' - I even get lost on this site.

 

[New1]

I go to 'Crimes and Trials' and do NOT see any Somer Thompson thread - what am I doing wrong? TIA

ETA: Just found the thread in 'currently awaiting trial' - I even get lost on this site.

I find this to be a quicker way to get here: Up at the top of the page when you log in, click on "search" and type in somer thompson, and scroll down to the thread. Hope this helps.

 

[JustyThoughts]

Something that I have pondered over for some time is related to the telephone conversation between JH and his mother that was released to the public - specific to the statements she (JH's mother) made ~ "I am your alibi" and "I'm not saying anything and the little girl's mother is not saying anything".

This recorded telephone conversation took place just after JH was arrested on the first charges. I am thinking that it had been said that he was a POI in Somer's case also at that time. Do you suppose mother was referring to the unknown child victim or to Somer when she said.....~ "the little girl's mother is not saying anything" and "I am your alibi.
JH was in jail for the initial charges.... the immediate issue. However, if his mother was referring to Somer..... then SHE would seem to have Somer's case as the focus. Although we likely will never know the factual answer..... the pondering does take one down several different paths.

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

Something that I have pondered over for some time is related to the telephone conversation between JH and his mother that was released to the public - specific to the statements she (JH's mother) made ~ "I am your alibi" and "I'm not saying anything and the little girl's mother is not saying anything".

This recorded telephone conversation took place just after JH was arrested on the first charges. I am thinking that it had been said that he was a POI in Somer's case also at that time. Do you suppose mother was referring to the unknown child victim or to Somer when she said.....~ "the little girl's mother is not saying anything" and "I am your alibi.
JH was in jail for the initial charges.... the immediate issue. However, if his mother was referring to Somer..... then SHE would seem to have Somer's case as the focus. Although we likely will never know the factual answer..... the pondering does take one down several different paths.

This is interesting. From the way it reads i would think she is definitely referring to the relatives child that J.H. had pics. of, or was it a video? I wouldn't think it was Deina Thompson not saying anything??? As in "the little girl's mother is not saying anything", and "i am your alibi". I am sure Deina said she never knew these people! Then from what we have read about J.H's family, child molestation seemed to be okay in their books!

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

ripley it must be you it sure isn't how I feel. i think its nasty to attack someone over preceived facial expressions. a MONSTER killed her daughter

I think Deina may have been on some perscribed medication from her doctor too. I am just saying, and don't know this for a fact! But i remember my own mother after my son was killed, she had medication to help with the trauma. It is not unusual for that. Also our natural endorphins kick in when we have had a big shock. I know for a fact that there is a huge sense of "unreality" when something like this happens, and i don't think Deina had even had what happen to Somer register properly in her brain. It is too much of a shock! I think even now a few short months later, she is nowhere near at terms with what has happened. The grieving process affects most people differently. And i am sure her son was in school when this went down, and L.E. would have checked everything out properly, time lines etc., and they have made their charge!

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

Also, i don't know how Deina does the public speaking! I was a blubbering mess when my child died! It pains me even now to think i couldn't even get up and speak at his funeral, i am very sad on that. I always tell him in my heart everyday now for 14 years how much i love and miss him. Deina is a very strong woman, tougher than me for sure! Good on her. Like i said before i am glad she can stand strong against the murderous monster that did this, and not give him the satisfaction of knowing how much he wrecked her life, but he will pay!!!

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

There is no "normal" when it comes to grief. I know there are jokes out there about "the dingo ate my baby", but being an Aussie i only too well remember this case! That poor woman and her family were so bashed by the public. Said they were "devil worshippers", because the baby wore a beautiful black lacy christening dress at her chritening, just the most terrible things over the death of their baby! It destroyed that family! Mum went to prison for a lengthy stint, and it was eventually dicovered through evidence they found in the outback, that indeed a dingo had taken that baby out of their tent while they were out camping. How can anyone ever compensate this poor woman and her family for that???

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Just thought I'd bring this post from Hoppy up in case some missed it....

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4731500&postcount=314"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL- Somer Renee Thompson, Orange Park, Thread #36[/ame]


hoppyfrog
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Important message to all posters

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The other mods and I have had to finally make the decision that there is to be no discussion of whether Somer's parents were good parents or bad parents. Period.

The discussion here periodically circles back to that topic and all hell breaks loose. You guys have beating a dead horse down to a science.

We are not going to give any warnings about this: you post about it and you will be given an automatic timeout.

The parents are not the issue and we want to keep the discussion on track.

Do us a favor: if someone posts about DT/ST good parent/bad parent, please do not respond to the post. Hit the alert button and we will handle it asap.

Thanks to all of you for caring so much about Somer,

Hoppy
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ETA: If anyone wants to bump, link, or copy this post of mine when the good parent/bad parent posts pop up, please do!
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[Noway]

I find this to be a quicker way to get here: Up at the top of the page when you log in, click on "search" and type in somer thompson, and scroll down to the thread. Hope this helps.

LOL
I just bookmarked the thread believe it or not. Another link.

Somer Thompson Thread 41

 

[Kimberlyd125]

This has been a pretty calm thread since Hoppy and Tricia laid down the law about not bashing the parents.
We are hopeing to get a sub forum...please y'all, lets try not to bicker.

IMO if this thread become a problem again, like it was for so long, it will make it harder to get the sub forum.

JMO

 

[nursebeeme]

thank you for bumping up the "no bashing Somer's parents" post by the mod, Kimberlyd.

ETA: also, I agree with your last post as well.... If a poster finds a post questionable just hit the little red button. Don't respond/quote the post and continue the flames. It will do nothing to help the thread continue to websleuth standards.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

thank you for bumping up the "no bashing Somer's parents" post by the mod, Kimberlyd.

There are several that Hoppy did that basically said...Knock off the bashing of the parents... or something like that...but I can't find them.

We need to try to stay civil in Somer's thread in hopes of a sub forum.

 

[Noway]

Something that I have pondered over for some time is related to the telephone conversation between JH and his mother that was released to the public - specific to the statements she (JH's mother) made ~ "I am your alibi" and "I'm not saying anything and the little girl's mother is not saying anything".

This recorded telephone conversation took place just after JH was arrested on the first charges. I am thinking that it had been said that he was a POI in Somer's case also at that time. Do you suppose mother was referring to the unknown child victim or to Somer when she said.....~ "the little girl's mother is not saying anything" and "I am your alibi.
JH was in jail for the initial charges.... the immediate issue. However, if his mother was referring to Somer..... then SHE would seem to have Somer's case as the focus. Although we likely will never know the factual answer..... the pondering does take one down several different paths.

BBM

I do not think they had the video/pix of the little girl yet, did they? I thought that came with the search of the Callahan house which took place that same day, and that is why the other charges followed.

I thought it was Somer.


I could see her using that phrase "the little girl's mother" and meaning the mother of the child in the pix only if she knew about the pictures already.

What was the date of the call? I cannot recall. (lol, no pun intended)