GUILTY FL - Steven & Michelle Andrews, both 28, murdered, Fort Myers, 27 Dec 2005

  • #181
MistyGirl, Thanks for posting the article. Some "Facts" from the article:

Fact: Cooper had a pair of black eyes when he was arrested. They were obvious in his mug shot and when he appeared for his bond hearing.

Fact: Cooper had a car accident the week before his arrest. According to Lee County Deputy Angelo Vaughn, Cooper wrecked his mother’s car in Bonita Springs. It was a one-car accident.

More facts: There isn’t an official report on this accident. Vaughn tried to find a report on Cooper’s crash but one couldn’t be found. Makes you wonder if there really was an accident. And does the accident tell you about Cooper’s state of mind before his arrest?

Fact: “Dateline” and “48 Hours” are both in Southwest Florida working on special reports to air on national television.

Fact: This won’t be the last column I’ll be writing concerning the deaths of Steven and Michelle Andrews.
 
  • #182
WOW!I don't know why I am just now finding this thread, but I am glad I ran across it. It has taken me a couple of hours to go through the whole thing. Its so sad. Even if Steven was having an affair, Michelle or himself did not deserve to die. People make horrible mistakes all the time, but I don't think he knew what he was getting in to.
I hope they are together now in heaven. I pray for their son Luke.
 
  • #183
http://snipurl.com/lzx7

A Lee County grand jury is expected to hear the case of the Gateway murders when it convenes Wednesday in Fort Myers.

In the meantime, sheriff's officials are releasing the 911 tape of the emergency call that started the investigation.

The call sparked national interest when the sheriff's office said it was made by 2-year-old Luke Andrews. The bodies of his parents, Steven and Michelle Andrews, were found in the Gateway home Dec. 27.
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news-press.com will post audio of the tape as soon as it is available.

The grand jury, which conducts deliberations in secret, will determine what charges would be leveled against suspect Fred Cooper in the deaths of Gateway couple Steven and Michelle Andrews.

By Florida law, any potential premeditated murder case must go before a grand jury. If the jurors decide Cooper, 27, should be indicted on two counts of first-degree murder, State Attorney Steve Russell would decide whether to seek the death penalty.

The grand jury will receive all the evidence the public doesn’t know yet, such as how the couple was killed, what physical evidence has been collected and potential witnesses in the case.
 
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How sad to hear little Luke say "Mommy". I can't believe anyone could orphan this little baby in such a disgusitng way.
 
  • #186
mysteriew said:
Whoever did this murder was someone close to that little boy. They didn't want him to suffer by being in the home alone with his murdered parents, they didn't want to kill him. It was someone who cared for the child. I wonder if there was family in the area?

I agree. I think it entirely possible that the killer did not want the little boy to suffer or come to harm from being left alone and put him on the phone and left. I don't know if he personally knew or cared about that boy....but whoever he was he obviously could not kill the child nor did he want the baby to stay in that situation without help.

Of course I do think that one of the parents may have been able to dial before they died also.

I just don't think the baby called 911. Since he did not appear distraught or traumatized I don't think he realized anything was all that wrong.

Now if he had been crying and frightened then I might believe he would have known to call 911....if he had been taught to do so by a parent.
 
  • #187
My hearing must be really getting bad. Does anyone understand what is being said at the end between the 911 dispatcher and the other woman, a female policewomen? Or is there a link for a transcripted version?

Thanks in advance. I could not understand any of it.
 
  • #188
lostfaith said:
My hearing must be really getting bad. Does anyone understand what is being said at the end between the 911 dispatcher and the other woman, a female policewomen? Or is there a link for a transcripted version?

Thanks in advance. I could not understand any of it.

I couldn't understand it either but I did hear something that sounded more like an adult in the background. I don't think I should be a 911 operator.
 
  • #189
Not word for word but the female officer identified herself and said ummmm, I don't see anyone here, I'm sure the parents are upstairs sleeeping. Then a little laugh and she said so I'm here.

Obviosly she had not discovered the bodies yet and thought that it was just a child playing with the phone and managed to dial 911. He voice was very light(cheerful). So that tells me that evidently the bodies were found upstairs in the bedroom and nothing was obviously disturbed downstairs.
 
  • #190
The female officer (at the front door or in the house) calls the dispatcher:

Officer: Hello.

Dispatcher: Yes Ma'am this is the 911 Operator.

Officer: Hi, its deputy (states her name).

Dispatcher: Ok.

Officer: Um, I don't see anyone here (now?). I'm sure the parents are upstairs sleeping.

Dispatcher: Ok

Officer: So, um, I'll be here.

Dispatcher: Ok. Thanks






concernedperson said:
I couldn't understand it either but I did hear something that sounded more like an adult in the background. I don't think I should be a 911 operator.
 
  • #191
Fred Cooper was indicted for Steven and Michelle's murder. COD for Steven is listed as GSW to head, Michelle is listed as asphyxiation, but also had blunt force trauma and possibly GSW. Is there any way we can get a forum for this case? It is very interesting and sad. I still think every night of poor baby Luke and I wonder if he still asks about his parents. Because of his age he will one day forget, but my heart breaks to think he probably called out for Mommy and Daddy so many times and they couldn't come for him.
 
  • #192
http://snipurl.com/m5cs

Prosecutors say accused Gateway killer Fred D. Cooper shot the man suspected of having an affair with his girlfriend, then beat and suffocated the victim’s wife.

Those details of the double murder five weeks ago were released Wednesday in an indictment handed down by a grand jury in Fort Myers.

Cooper, 27, of 28263 Jeneva Way, is charged with two counts of first-degree murder and one count of armed burglary in the deaths of Steven and Michelle Andrews, both 28. If convicted, the Bonita Springs man could face life in prison without parole or death.
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“A written plea of not guilty is what we anticipate,” said Randall McGruther, chief assistant state attorney.

Public defender Kenneth Garber, who is representing Cooper, did not return a
message Wednesday.

According to the indictment, Steven Andrews died of a gunshot wound, while Michelle Andrews succumbed to traumatic asphyxia and blunt force head trauma.
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Deputy Tracie Gaydash responded to the Andrews’ home shortly after 7 a.m. Dec. 27 and found the couple’s 2-year-old son, Luke, connected to a 911 operator. Sheriff’s officials released a tape of the 911 call last week, but it doesn’t shed light on who may have dialed the phone.

The toddler was not harmed during the slayings and is staying with relatives.

The homicides occurred late Dec. 26 or early Dec. 27, the indictment said. Sheriff’s officials early in the investigation said the victims died between 11 p.m. and 6 a.m. Detectives recovered DNA evidence that links Cooper to the crime scene, but they haven’t said what type of forensic evidence was sent to a crime lab in Ohio.
 
  • #193
BUMP-

How can we get this case it's own forum?
 
  • #194
Mama-cita said:
BUMP-

How can we get this case it's own forum?
I would like to see this case get it's own forum too, but I don't think it will happen because there doesn't seem to be enough intrest in this case. I would have thought the people her WS would be all over this one.

I have been following it from the start since Steven & Michelle were from Minnesota and it was all over the news here....not much anymore now. It is so sad for poor Luke it just breaks my heart to know what we must of saw....I know he probably wont remember but it is still very sad.
 
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MistyGirl said:
I would like to see this case get it's own forum too, but I don't think it will happen because there doesn't seem to be enough intrest in this case. I would have thought the people her WS would be all over this one.

I have been following it from the start since Steven & Michelle were from Minnesota and it was all over the news here....not much anymore now. It is so sad for poor Luke it just breaks my heart to know what we must of saw....I know he probably wont remember but it is still very sad.
I've been following this case, too. In fact, it is really the only case that I have been following.

If this case goes to trial, I surely hope that it will get its own forum. It will certainly prove to be one of the most interesting cases. I definitely can see this case being made into a movie.

I don't understand why this case was not picked up by the national media. Maybe, once the trial gets underway, it will be.
 
  • #197
nanandjim said:
I've been following this case, too. In fact, it is really the only case that I have been following.

If this case goes to trial, I surely hope that it will get its own forum. It will certainly prove to be one of the most interesting cases. I definitely can see this case being made into a movie.

I don't understand why this case was not picked up by the national media. Maybe, once the trial gets underway, it will be.
This is pretty much the only case I have been following too. I agree I thought Nancy Grace would have for sure had this on her show. Maybe because the familie & freinds invovled in this case are not talking so therefore the media doesn't have much to go with?

I wonder how long it will take before his trial will start? i would liek to know what Kellie knew either befor ethe killng or after? Did she suspect Fred was invovled etc? So many questions......so few answers right now.....
 
  • #198
Since this case happened in my state, I've been following it also. The only thing I can think about less media attention, is that the family's (both) don't want it publicized so much because of the affair. They might think there wouldn't be much sympathy for Steven, or just don't want to answer questions about it, which I understand.

I'm interested in knowing more about what Kellie knew also. I think she must have known that Fred did these murders. Then she let him move in with her brother and was visiting him there all the time, according to neighbors. He even told one neighbor that he knew the police were watching him.

It seems that he actually took most of his rage out on Michelle, with all the blunt force trauma. Why would that be? Lot of questions that we probably won't get answers to until the trial.

But if I was Kellie, I would have been scared to death of him!
 
  • #199
I would love for this case to have it's own forum! I've been trying to follow it too-it has me intrigued. My questions:

:confused: What does Kellie look like now? Steve's wife was so fit, and really cute and, from all reports, really loved him.

:confused:Who put the moves on the other in the Steven/Kellie mess? Or did it just kind of happen?

:confused:How long an affair did they have? Is it true they broke it off, but started seeing it other again just before the murders?

:confused:When did Michelle find out about the affair?

:confused:What are Kellie's co-workers perceptions of her?

:confused: Do pictures of Outside Productions' Christmas party exist?

:confused: Did Fred confess to Kellie? Did he threaten to "go over there and kill him?"

:confused: Does Kellie feel any guilt for her part (my opinion) in this?

:confused: How did the crimes unfold? Did Fred break in? Did someone answer the door? Did he really rape Michelle in front of Steven? Was Steven in fact "dismembered"? If he WAS "dismembered" did they find "it"?
 
  • #200
IdahoMom said:
I would love for this case to have it's own forum! I've been trying to follow it too-it has me intrigued. My questions:

:confused: What does Kellie look like now? Steve's wife was so fit, and really cute and, from all reports, really loved him.

:confused:Who put the moves on the other in the Steven/Kellie mess? Or did it just kind of happen?

:confused:How long an affair did they have? Is it true they broke it off, but started seeing it other again just before the murders?

:confused:When did Michelle find out about the affair?

:confused:What are Kellie's co-workers perceptions of her?

:confused: Do pictures of Outside Productions' Christmas party exist?

:confused: Did Fred confess to Kellie? Did he threaten to "go over there and kill him?"

:confused: Does Kellie feel any guilt for her part (my opinion) in this?

:confused: How did the crimes unfold? Did Fred break in? Did someone answer the door? Did he really rape Michelle in front of Steven? Was Steven in fact "dismembered"? If he WAS "dismembered" did they find "it"?
Great questions and they are the ones I have had too. There seems to be alot of rumors flying on the other forum and hard to read there as there is so much bashing.

They seem to be in the "know" of some things but why off on others.

I did hear that Kellie had attended the memorial service for them and that jsut blew me away....she even gave quotes to a report as she was leaving. I will see if I can find the link to that article.
 

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