GUILTY FL - Steven & Michelle Andrews, both 28, murdered, Fort Myers, 27 Dec 2005

[shannaleigh]

I never post because I only read this site while I'm at work. This case has got a hold on me almost as bad as Laci. I sure wished we could get more attention for this. This is so unbelievable.

 

[sweetpea657]

This case has a hold on me too, Shannaleigh, and I'm not sure why. I lurked every day on the Laci threads, but never posted. For whatever reason, this case caused me to come out of lurkdom. There hasn't been a lot of posting about this case here lately, so I have been lurking at news-press.net to read all I can. Although, reading over there and trying to sift through all the crap posts can be difficult!

Anyway, for anyone still as interested in this case, I just wanted to drop this off. There is a ton of new information here. Pictures of Fred's injured hands, emails between Steve and Kellie, gas station surveillance video of Fred on his bike and investigation reports.

http://www.nbc-2.com/articles/readarticle.asp?articleid=5985&z=3&p=

Poor Michelle, I feel so bad that this girl had nothing to do with any of this and ends up murdered. My heart aches for Lukasz, that poor baby. His mommy and daddy taken away from him because of some idiot seeking revenge. It's all just so sad...

 

[cathieq]

The phone book opened to a marriage counselor, the baby's room, the bowl of uneatened popcorn.....the blood on the walls, carpet and bed...the signs that Michelle fought hard to survive....the sounds of a man totally out of control, the sounds of death....and the baby will have these embedded in his consciousness. Not all the therapy in the world is going to enable this child to have a normal life...

I blame Kelly as much as Steven...almost as much as the perpetrator.

 

[Mama-cita]

The more I read about this case, the more I want to barf. Looking at those e-mails between Steve and Kellie I just feel so bad for Michelle . While she was trying to work things out with her husband, he was skirting around with his secretary and they were plotting their lives together. I was sickened by Kellie making a life for her, Steve, her daughter and Lukasz. What was to happen to Lukasz mother? Ugh. Why do people cheat. This case has me hooked. Can't we ask a moderator if they can make a forum? I hate checking the New-Press forum. Probably a lot of the decent people would love to have some place like this to check. Also does anyone know details about how Michelle's body was posed, post-mortem?

 

[Jean]

sweetpea, Thanks for posting the article that had the e-mails, etc.

I am hooked on this case too! I feel so sorry for Michelle--reading those e-mails was almost painful. It sounded like they were definitely making plans to be together.

Is there an article that mentions Kellie attending the funeral? I am interested in how she handled herself.

I too think it would be nice to have a forum on this case. Maybe one of the mods will surprise us with one! I think more people would post about this case if we had a forum.

 

[SewingDeb]

The more I read about this case, the more I want to barf. Looking at those e-mails between Steve and Kellie I just feel so bad for Michelle . While she was trying to work things out with her husband, he was skirting around with his secretary and they were plotting their lives together. I was sickened by Kellie making a life for her, Steve, her daughter and Lukasz. What was to happen to Lukasz mother? Ugh. Why do people cheat. This case has me hooked. Can't we ask a moderator if they can make a forum? I hate checking the New-Press forum. Probably a lot of the decent people would love to have some place like this to check. Also does anyone know details about how Michelle's body was posed, post-mortem?

That mention of Carlie and Lukasz made me sick. It sounded like they planned to take Lukasz away from his mother. I thought it was curious that they planned to marry, but never said I love you in the emails.

You asked about how Michelle's body was posed. On one page of the Investigative Reports it said her arms were straight out to her sides and her legs spread to what appeared to be maximum possible width. She had on a night shirt, but was nude from the waist down.

She was on the floor at the foot of the bed.

http://www.nbc-2.com/News/documents/060223_andrews_evidence1.pdf

 

[sweetpea657]

Cathieq, I agree with you. Lukasz will have to grow up without his mommy and daddy, which is traumatic enough in itself, but than one day when he is older (hopefully), he will learn they were murdered and the reason for that murder was the revenge of one evil idiot and an affair. I can't even imagine. I pray he is surrounded by love and gets the therapy he needs.

Mama-cita, I agree with you too. Reading those emails and seeing Steve tell Kellie how Michelle was trying to act "perfect", wanting to work things out, rekindle the flame, made me want to barf too. Poor Michelle.

Did you see the email where Kellie told Steve she hoped Lukasz liked the Christmas present she gave him better than the one Lukasz received from his great (?) grandmother? What exactly was Michelle supposed to think when Steve handed Lukasz a Christmas present from Kellie?? Michelle already had issues (understandably so, IMO) of the $25 grab bag gift of $100 and lots of smaller gifts that Kellie gave Steve. What did Kellie think Michelle would have thought about a gift from her to Lukasz?

I hoped I don't get flamed for saying this, but I think Kellie was an instigater. She wanted Michelle and Fred to know about her and Steve, IMO. I'm not defending Fred's actions by any means, he will get his... but I hope Kellie TRULY realizes her part in all this and thinks about Lukasz and the families every day of her life.

As far as Michelle's body, here is what the criminal investigation report says:

Directly visible inside the master bedroom was victim Michelle Andrews. Michelle Andrews was lying supine on the floor at the foot of the bed with her arms straight out from her sides and her legs spread to what appeared to be the maximum possible width.

More about it here on page 19 of the investigation report:
http://www.nbc-2.com/News/documents/060223_andrews_evidence1.pdf

 

[sweetpea657]

OOPS! Sorry for posting the same info SewingDeb! I guess I took too long mulling over the post I was typing, because the last post I read was from Mama-cita. I'm too slow!

Jean, I haven't seen any articles saying Kellie went to the funeral. I read on the press-news site awhile ago that she did, but that could have just been rumor. It's hard to know what is real/true facts on that site! I hope the mods give this case a forum too!

 

[IdahoMom]

This case does deserve it's own forum!

I am just sick after reading the emails. Steve was almost mocking Michelle, imo. The remarks about her trying to be perfect, seeing Michelle's love note to Steve, etc...I just feel sick to my stomach.

I too feel that Kellie has blood on her hands. She had alot of nerve talking abut Lukasz like she knew him, like she and Steve and the 2 kids would live happily ever after. What about Michelle? I think the talk about Lukasz was manipulative as hell. And I can't get over the nerve of her, buying Lukasz a Christmas gift! And the nerve to call the house and tell Michelle she needed Steve to come help her with something! I'm sorry to rant, but I am stunned at the nerve of that woman!

Interesting that Steve and Kellie's coworkers let them know they weren't comfortable with the affair.

This wasn't a love affair as far as I'm concerned. It was a cheap, disgusting little whorish fling. If Steve had taken his wife for walks on the beach at night, bought her coffee, sent her emails, maybe the flame Michelle was trying to ignite could have taken off.

It's pretty sad the things that were said in those emails about the extended family members. Steve left quite a legacy. I hope this story serves as a warning to others that are contemplating the same path that if you play with fire you might get burned. Steve and Kellie's whorish fling ruined many lives.

I hope Kellie is haunted all the days of her life for her part in this.:furious:

 

[shannaleigh]

Thank you all so much for responding. I'm so happy to know that I'm not the only one wanting to follow this case. I really hope it will get it's own forum but I have no clue how to go about setting that up. You all are pros at this, please try and thanks again.

 

[Becba]

I think Kellie said she had her daughter to worry about because she was still in Fred's reach at the time. Yes, it would make sence to tell all and have Fred arrested right away but I think she feared him.

Though she was the other woman she did care for Steve enough she wanted to be with him and drop Fred. She found her lover and his wife dead and likely felt she would be next. Maybe she thought he would kill her and the child. We don't know what Fred told her during that time. I suspect he was abusive to her and she feared him.

 

[Mama-cita]

This wasn't a love affair as far as I'm concerned. It was a cheap, disgusting little whorish fling. If Steve had taken his wife for walks on the beach at night, bought her coffee, sent her emails, maybe the flame Michelle was trying to ignite could have taken off.

It's pretty sad the things that were said in those emails about the extended family members. Steve left quite a legacy. I hope this story serves as a warning to others that are contemplating the same path that if you play with fire you might get burned. Steve and Kellie's whorish fling ruined many lives.

I hope Kellie is haunted all the days of her life for her part in this.:furious:

What a great post IM, Especially the points above! You are right it wasn't about love, it was about fantasy; 2 people who didn't want to live in the real world with real responsibilities. News-Press forum has been hilarious with all the banter about the e-mails between Steve and Kellie. Did anyone see HGator about what Steve's e-mail would have been if Fred didn't go through with it. Maybe it is inappropriate but I was RFLMBO!

 

[IdahoMom]

What a great post IM, Especially the points above! You are right it wasn't about love, it was about fantasy; 2 people who didn't want to live in the real world with real responsibilities. News-Press forum has been hilarious with all the banter about the e-mails between Steve and Kellie. Did anyone see HGator about what Steve's e-mail would have been if Fred didn't go through with it. Maybe it is inappropriate but I was RFLMBO!

I loved that post! Maybe we should ask him/her if we can post it here....:angel:. I think it was spot on!!! :clap:

 

[RiverRat]

I expect that the annoucement on whether the Death Penalty is sought will occur this upcoming week as our State Attorney was personally in court this past week Successfully handling the prosecution of yet another murderer. I am hoping that the same will happen in this most disturbing case as he is the Best there is for getting the job done. :twocents:

 

[RiverRat]

What a great post IM, Especially the points above! You are right it wasn't about love, it was about fantasy; 2 people who didn't want to live in the real world with real responsibilities. News-Press forum has been hilarious with all the banter about the e-mails between Steve and Kellie. Did anyone see HGator about what Steve's e-mail would have been if Fred didn't go through with it. Maybe it is inappropriate but I was RFLMBO!

Not inappropriate in my book but I was touched by how easily fate could have turned the other way if only Steve's Other Brain was engaged.

 

[Mama-cita]

Thanks for the info River...

Surely this case merits DP, especially enlight of Freddy stalking the Andrews for days before the murders. I still want to know who called 911!!!!!!!! Does anyone think with the mounting evidence against him that Fred will change his plea? And who here thinks Kellie has already moved on to her NEXT VICTIM??!?!?

 

[IdahoMom]

Thanks for the info River...

Surely this case merits DP, especially enlight of Freddy stalking the Andrews for days before the murders. I still want to know who called 911!!!!!!!! Does anyone think with the mounting evidence against him that Fred will change his plea? And who here thinks Kellie has already moved on to her NEXT VICTIM??!?!?

I too think this crime warrants the death penalty. And I hope that Kellie has learned her lesson about screwing around with a married man!


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I have a question for everyone: if you were Michelle, and you intercepted the call that Kellie made, asking for Steve, so he could help you move something, what do you think you would have done? How would you have reacted to the extravagant (for a Christmas grab bag) gift from Kellie to your husband?


I am very curious about how things went at the Christmas party. I wonder if there are any pictures floating around memorializing the event.

 

[SewingDeb]

What a great post IM, Especially the points above! You are right it wasn't about love, it was about fantasy; 2 people who didn't want to live in the real world with real responsibilities. News-Press forum has been hilarious with all the banter about the e-mails between Steve and Kellie. Did anyone see HGator about what Steve's e-mail would have been if Fred didn't go through with it. Maybe it is inappropriate but I was RFLMBO!

Which page of the forum has HGator's post about the emails? I am so curious and there are 890 pages so far.

 

[IdahoMom]

Which page of the forum has HGator's post about the emails? I am so curious and there are 890 pages so far.

It's on page 855, a little more than half way down. It's wickedly good:

http://www.news-press.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=14913&highlight=#14913

I have been meaning to PM that poster to ask permission to post it here, and invite him/her over.

 

[Mama-cita]

I PM'd Tricia about getting this case it's own forum, I guess we will see. I let her know about the 890 pages at News Press as well as lots of lurkers there (over 1 million views). I bet a lot of frustrated posters would gladly come over here and post. Of course we could start out by automatically banning a FEW people from ever coming over...