FL FL - Sumter Co, 'Little Miss Panasoffkee', WhtFem 17-24, 470UFFL, Feb'71

[MadMcGoo]

Wait, who was identified?!

 

[Springrain]

Wait, who was identified?!

Pretty sure she was talking about a previously unidentified victim of serial killer Samuel Little!

 

[onceuponadecember]

Pretty sure she was talking about a previously unidentified victim of serial killer Samuel Little!

Yes, I was.

 

[LucyOso]

Have they looked at Anne Heyligers?

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[MadMcGoo]

Pretty sure she was talking about a previously unidentified victim of serial killer Samuel Little!

Thank you!

 

[Susikatze]

Have they looked at Anne Heyligers?

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I dont think LMLP had this strong diastema between her front teeth. And disappearing in Eindhoven and turning up dead 5 years later in the US - stranger things have happened, but id say, unlikely

 

[LucyOso]

I dont think LMLP had this strong diastema between her front teeth. And disappearing in Eindhoven and turning up dead 5 years later in the US - stranger things have happened, but id say, unlikely

My thoughts too, but didn't some of LMLP origins trace to Europe in childhood? Leaded gasoline left traces in dentition? Teeth do shift. Analysis of the woman’s hair determined that she may have arrived in the United States from between a year and two months before her death, according to news reports.

Little Miss Lake Panasoffkee — an enduring murder mystery after 50 years

 

[LucyOso]

1.6 m/ 5'2.5''
Brown/Grey

 

[Susikatze]

Isotope analysis not always proved to be correct with recent cases. Worst was Evelyn Colon, isotope analysis claimed she came from Europe (Croatia), but she in fact was a Puerto Rican girl who lived in New Jersey nost of her life.
Same, but less dramatic with Peggy Johnson. They got the area she was from really wrong.

My thoughts too, but didn't some of LMLP origins trace to Europe in childhood? Leaded gasoline left traces in dentition? Teeth do shift. Analysis of the woman’s hair determined that she may have arrived in the United States from between a year and two months before her death, according to news reports.

Little Miss Lake Panasoffkee — an enduring murder mystery after 50 years

 

[onceuponadecember]

Isotope analysis not always proved to be correct with recent cases. Worst was Evelyn Colon, isotope analysis claimed she came from Europe (Croatia), but she in fact was a Puerto Rican girl who lived in New Jersey nost of her life.
Same, but less dramatic with Peggy Johnson. They got the area she was from really wrong.

I think it depends on who is reading the isotopes. The BBM isotopes were really accurate and were done by NCMEC, I think. USF, I’m not so sure about.

 

[Springrain]

I'm gonna just drop Carl's recon here because I just came across the one he made for her and I think it's better than the others.

 

[onceuponadecember]

I think there’s a detail in the circumstances of her recovery that most people forgot about - she was wrapped in a carpet. The fact that she was wrapped in a carpet and had a men’s belt around her neck makes me somewhat suspicious. Is it possible her husband might’ve come home from work and killed her?

 

[carbuff]

I think there’s a detail in the circumstances of her recovery that most people forgot about - she was wrapped in a carpet. The fact that she was wrapped in a carpet and had a men’s belt around her neck makes me somewhat suspicious. Is it possible her husband might’ve come home from work and killed her?

Sure sounds like that's a possibility.

 

[Springrain]

I think there’s a detail in the circumstances of her recovery that most people forgot about - she was wrapped in a carpet. The fact that she was wrapped in a carpet and had a men’s belt around her neck makes me somewhat suspicious. Is it possible her husband might’ve come home from work and killed her?

I wonder why Doe Network doesn't have pics of the jewelry, belt, or carpet. While it may not seem like a big detail, the newspaper around Evelyn Colon's remains did signal that she was from New Jersey, which was true.

The fact that she was wearing a poncho makes me think she may have been attacked while coming home from walking outside. I can see her putting on a poncho and going for a walk, coming back, walking in and, before taking off the poncho, being strangled from behind with her husband's belt. Then he could roll her up in the carpet.

Honestly, the belt also reminds me of the serial killer Rene Lenier on True Blood who strangled women with a specific, distinctive belt of his. The fact that Little Miss Lake Panasaoffkee was buried with the belt still around her neck signifies to me that he didn't use it as a strangulation tool before or (obviously) after her murder. I wonder if any research has been done on the belt, on where it could have been purchased or manufactured, etc.

(Sorry for the novel, folks...I like to "talk")

 

[madamx]

I just came across this woman and don’t know if she has been discussed. I just thought I would post her.
NY - NY - Hasie Hasan Ahmeti, 26? New York, 1961

 

[Susikatze]

I just came across this woman and don’t know if she has been discussed. I just thought I would post her.
NY - NY - Hasie Hasan Ahmeti, 26? New York, 1961

You know, that is a very good lead. The time between 1961 and 1971 is a tad long, but i can imagine isotope signatures being similar in coastal Albania and Greece (if we believe the isotopes). She wanted to get married and would be the correct size, age and appearance to be LMLP. She could have severed her contact with her family, Albania was stone age communism back then, I guess it was hard to maintain regular contact, gotten her papers through other means, got married, had children and after 10 years somehow the marriage went sour and her husband killed her. Totally possible.

 

[carbuff]

I'm not sure what the certificate to get married is, but I doubt if it was anything required in the US. They could easily have married and stayed in the US--at the time, one of the easiest things in the world was to just overstay your visa. There was no central registry and most of the time nobody checked anyway. Totally plausible that she would have married and gone on with a normal life until she was murdered.

 

[pol100gk]

The certificate to get married is probably a confirmation that she is not married already. A sort of certificate of good standing.

 

[ntt1]

Happy to see that the police department is still working towards an ID, given the news article on the 50th anniversary this year. No mention of genetic genealogy in any of the articles but I have to think that they've probably considered or are trying it, though extraction might be difficult for a case this old.

 

[lonewanderer]

I think there’s a detail in the circumstances of her recovery that most people forgot about - she was wrapped in a carpet. The fact that she was wrapped in a carpet and had a men’s belt around her neck makes me somewhat suspicious. Is it possible her husband might’ve come home from work and killed her?

Was there any specific information about the carpet?

Mary Margaret Cook is a potential match with quite A LOT of circumstances that add up with this particular Doe.

(From NAMUS) "their oldest son recalls arguing and his father's stern orders "not to look outside." The son believes that Margaret's body may have been wrapped in a red blanket which Earl retrieved from the house."

I don't see what age the son was when he witnessed this, and maybe he mistook a carpet for a blanket?



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