Found Deceased FL - Taylor Wright, 33, Pensacola, 8 Sept 2017 #2 *Arrest*

[FlossyMay]

How would he know for sure?

:dunno:

 

[alexwood]

There is another report about it that identifies the body was found at the 17th Avenue boat launch. That is at the southern end of what is called Bayou Terre where it meets Pensacola Bay. The body recovered must be in pretty good condition if they are saying there doesn't appear to be foul play.

http://weartv.com/news/local/body-found-near-port-of-pensacola

The location of the 17th Avenue boat launch can be seen at this Google Map link.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/1...53cf2db28ada60!8m2!3d30.4200613!4d-87.1937811

To me, the more important detail would have been the gender. Why couldn't they at least have specified that?

 

[1&2&3]

Why has Uber not been contacted before now to find out where Taylor was dropped and to verify she indeed used Uber?

If LE weren't willing to help, her parents could hire a lawyer to petition Uber for the information. Verifying that Uber was used, and where she was dropped, might be a good starting point.

What if Uber was not used......

 

[JLD333]

Part of what concerns me. She should know this and put an end to it all rather than have all this play out in terms of what this is doing to fleurde, mom, and a small handful of others.

I know I said this earlier but I am willing to pursue an opportunity to get a lead on Taylor if she did take off. I am willing to do that as long as that remains a possibility. I know I am not going to give up on her.

At the same time, my very first impression based on how long it took for her report of her missing to make it to the media or SM (about 6 days) was she was not alive. It seems it was the PI to make the first SM post and the PI that was the source for the first story that we get at the initial post of Taylor's threads. There is seemingly nothing public across anyone saying something like "Has anyone heard from Taylor?" No indication of any friends posting the Missing Poster. Nothing. Crickets. Either everyone knows or nobody cares. I have not seen where a "professional" has recommended not trying to get a Missing Person's face and name out there as far and wide as possible and not try to get media attention not only locally, but regionally or even nationally. Or organize searches, etc.

My limited experience here at WS tells me that there is always a reason (and not good) that you have a missing person and you have no one but parents or significant others (even exes) that are the only ones with anything to say. There is an elephant in the room of some sort. Whether that has to do with the victim or shady characters around the victim I don't know.

As it is I know I have to keep all options on the table. I much prefer to pursue finding her alive because quite frankly I am tired of cases I am working on that turn into body hunts (I still have 5 of those active, it was 6 but Emily Anderson was found Sunday).

100% agree. I hope and pray that body isn't TW's, but the proximity is concerning.

Any other people missing in or around Pensacola?


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[Gardener1850]

Why has Uber not been contacted before now to find out where Taylor was dropped and to verify she indeed used Uber?

If LE weren't willing to help, her parents could hire a lawyer to petition Uber for the information. Verifying that Uber was used, and where she was dropped, might be a good starting point.

What if Uber was not used......

I really hope that LE and/or the PI firms working on Taylor's case have already done this. It's really concerning, however, that the Uber has not been mentioned in MSM anywhere. IIRC, we only know about the Uber story because of our Verified Insiders.

 

[Gardener1850]

100% agree. I hope and pray that body isn't TW's, but the proximity is concerning.

Any other people missing in or around Pensacola?


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Not Pensacola but two other missing cases from nearby towns, both have been gone much longer than Taylor:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...8-Crestview-27-March-2017&highlight=pensacola
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ll-36-Milton-5-March-2016&highlight=pensacola

What really concerns me about the body found is Taylor's last phone ping. AbuDrake first said it tracked to Reserve, LA but after further research he came back and said it could also track to either Baton Rouge or Gulf Breeze, FL. Look where Gulf Breeze is in relation to the boat ramp: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/17t...7703311d36!2m2!1d-87.1638574!2d30.3571438!3e0

 

[FlossyMay]

This man is missing. https://www.facebook.com/OfficialECSO/posts/1679035458836079

It says he took a cab to Wayside Park. Isn't that like right there where the body was found?

 

[totesmagoat]

This man is missing. https://www.facebook.com/OfficialECSO/posts/1679035458836079

There is an update in the middle saying that he had been safely located.


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[FlossyMay]

There is an update in the middle saying that he had been safely located.


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That was an error.

UPDATE 10/12/17: During further investigation on this case it was discovered a local facility had a clerical error and Santiago Pedro Sandoval-Martin was not in their care. ECSO Investigators are still trying to locate Sandoval-Martin. If you have any information on his whereabouts call 9-1-1.

 

[JLD333]

Not Pensacola but two other missing cases from nearby towns, both have been gone much longer than Taylor:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...8-Crestview-27-March-2017&highlight=pensacola
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ll-36-Milton-5-March-2016&highlight=pensacola

What really concerns me about the body found is Taylor's last phone ping. AbuDrake first said it tracked to Reserve, LA but after further research he came back and said it could also track to either Baton Rouge or Gulf Breeze, FL. Look where Gulf Breeze is in relation to the boat ramp: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/17t...7703311d36!2m2!1d-87.1638574!2d30.3571438!3e0

Oh, crap. That is incredibly worrisome.


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[Gardener1850]

This man is missing. https://www.facebook.com/OfficialECSO/posts/1679035458836079

It says he took a cab to Wayside Park. Isn't that like right there where the body was found?

That IS really close to the boat ramp and his disappearance is much more recent.

I made a thread for Santiago: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...l-Martin-24-Pensacola-3-Oct-2017-*Endangered*

 

[AbuDrake]

WS team - I've caught up a bit and it appears that the more focused and productive strains of this forum are at work. I also read about some of the cases that WS has helped with, and I believe that y'all are capable of helping here as well. So, I'm back to help if I can. I do wish that Fleurde had stuck around (and been more open) but I totally get her position...and again, I think she's a warmhearted person who was doing her right best to be Taylor's advocate and friend. That's noble and respectable in my book.

First - a heartfelt thanks to Gardener for that consolidated timeline. That's first rate work...sources cited and totally unemotional. I deeply appreciate it. If WS is going to score a win here, that is how it'll be done.

Second - I remain short on time and can't flip through every post, nor respond like I had been doing previously. So what I did was to cut-and-paste Gardener's report into this Google Docs file, and then put some notes in there in red. I hope this answers most of the outstanding RFIs. If you have more, please write them in there using a different color font, and I'll get to them as soon as I can. Perhaps someone can cut, paste, and format the discussion here for broader dissemination and archival purposes?

(And if that Google Docs file contains identifiable information like my name, email address, etc...please let me know so I can sanitize it.)

 

[Gardener1850]

WS team - I've caught up a bit and it appears that the more focused and productive strains of this forum are at work. I also read about some of the cases that WS has helped with, and I believe that y'all are capable of helping here as well. So, I'm back to help if I can. I do wish that Fleurde had stuck around (and been more open) but I totally get her position...and again, I think she's a warmhearted person who was doing her right best to be Taylor's advocate and friend. That's noble and respectable in my book.

First - a heartfelt thanks to Gardener for that consolidated timeline. That's first rate work...sources cited and totally unemotional. I deeply appreciate it. If WS is going to score a win here, that is how it'll be done.

Second - I remain short on time and can't flip through every post, nor respond like I had been doing previously. So what I did was to cut-and-paste Gardener's report into this Google Docs file, and then put some notes in there in red. I hope this answers most of the outstanding RFIs. If you have more, please write them in there using a different color font, and I'll get to them as soon as I can. Perhaps someone can cut, paste, and format the discussion here for broader dissemination and archival purposes?

(And if that Google Docs file contains identifiable information like my name, email address, etc...please let me know so I can sanitize it.)

Thanks for the elaboration and clarification of a few points Abu. I will attempt to incorporate whatever I can the next time I update the timeline. For now, I am going to copy and paste the parts you added to as a new post. That way we will have a post number to reference. Your Google document DOES have your name, but I think most of us have figured out who you are by reading the divorce court summary or from a simple google search of Taylor's name.

 

[Gardener1850]

Timeline comments written by AbuDrake are in red:

April 2014 – Taylor and her husband and son moved due to military orders. They were happy at this time. (AbuDrake post#176, Thread1)

Yes - this was a high-point of happiness. But in the 6 months +/- Christmas ‘13, she was mulling the idea of staying in NC while I went to FL, because of how unhappy we were together. Things started to go bad again by Fall ‘14.


30 Dec 2016 –Divorce finalized (okaloosaclerk.com)
Yes, but no. The case was bifurcated: the divorce was granted because of how long it had taken to that point (delay after delay), but nothing about custody or asset division was decided. That hearing took place in March ‘17, with a final order in June ‘17. Of note from final order: she was ordered to pay $700 a month in child support, and return $25k of the $100k she took NLT 15JUN. She was also ordered to give me the title to a car and property, and to get a life insurance policy. She did only one of these things: the quit-claim deed for the property that I got in the split.



Around April 2017 –Taylor has a “friendly and constructive” relationship with her son. It is very unusual for her to go long without contacting him. (AbuDrake #114 & #190, Thread1); By the time she went missing in Sept, Taylor was usually texting her son everyday (her mother to WEARTV news; & Fleurde post #852, Thread1).
‘Every day’ is inaccurate; I’d say that between me prompting him to call and her calling, it was 3x a week since he came back for the school year. The texting didn’t start until right before she disappeared...almost always phone calls before that.

12 June 2017 – Taylor withdrew $100,000 from bank account after it was unfrozen by the courts; (AbuDrake posts #47, Thread 1; see also Okaloosaclerk.com; See Also Notes below) *
First withdrawal of that cash was late Feb ‘17, right before the trial. I was able to get it frozen within 36 hours of the withdrawal.

4 Aug 2017 – Divorce case reopened (Okaloosaclerk.com)
Not re-opened. About this time, the appellate court basically said “What is this you filed? You have 10 days to clear up what you are saying here.” What she’d filed was an absolute jumble...very curious still to see how it happened.

Same timeframe, I filed my motion to compel her to comply with the order from June...not re-opening so much as asking the court to enforce what it had already told her to do.

Abt 13 Aug 2017 – Taylor took her son back to her ex-husband. Handover with TW’s son went badly; TW’s ex-husband had the police present (AbuDrake post #150 & #556 Thread1).
Correct - worth noting that she would not do handover with police present...things went bad after they left.

6 Sept 2017 – Taylor’s lawyer requested a continuance by filing a letter saying she was going to help her family in the path of Hurricane Irma (AbuDrake post #47, Thread 1). Continuance was granted according to Okaloosaclerk.com
Not her attorney - she filed it herself. None of the 3 attorneys who have represented her in this case are currently doing so.

8 Sept 2017 –Taylor left all her belongings at her house on Berkley Drive in Pensacola, including her car, an unloaded moving truck, 2 laptops unlocked and logged into her Gmail, $30,000 worth of heirloom Jewelry and $19,000 in cashier’s checks. The only things not left behind by TW are her phone and wallet. A friend claims Taylor left in an Uber with the money and checks. (AbuDrake post #47, #286, Thread1 & Fleurde post #694, Thread1; WKRG, PNJ and WEARTV news)
Fleurde told me that Taylor attempted to pawn that jewelry in the weeks prior to her disappearance, but didn’t sell it when she realized it wasn’t worth the money she had thought it was.

8 Sept 2017 – Taylor allegedly seen with backpacks containing $30,000 in cash and $30,000 in cashier’s checks. She got the money and checks out of a friend’s safe deposit box at Wells Fargo Bank. The friend who took her to the bank is the same one who lent her the moving truck. (AbuDrake posts #47, #55, #113, 283, #285, #331, #372 Thread 1)

Even if this money sounds like a small amount to you, please consider this from Taylor’s perspective. This is all that remains from a very solid financial portfolio...we had a net worth of over $500k in our early 30s. This is all she has left of the nest egg that she’d guarded and grown over the years...very much like a D&D storyline dragon, come to think of it, in that the hoarding of treasure is a hobby and an obsession...the end goal is to amass and guard the stuff, not to spend it.

So losing what remains -or any part of it- is a tremendous emotional blow to her. She went from scoffing at my initial offer of $3500 a month and $200k in assets (plus a share of my military retirement), to getting $75k in cash and having to pay ME $700 a month. Can you imagine how that must feel? It all came crashing down around her. Don’t focus on the amounts - having to pay me a dime is a tremendous blow to her. The act of writing a check for any amount -even once- would be devastating.

Don’t forget that she ignored the court order to transfer that 25k NLT 15JUN. She willfully, and obviously broke the law in order to protect that money. If you don’t get why that makes sense for Taylor to do, you don’t get how she thinks.

My point in mentioning the money at all isn’t because I am selfishly interested in it. I do, of course, want the money that is owed to me...who wouldn’t be? But that’s not why I bring it up on WebSleuths...I handle that stuff in court, not here. Again - I bring this up here because of the relevance to finding her. If you don’t see money as a main driving force here, you aren’t going to look in the right directions for her.


10 Sept 2017 – Taylor’s girlfriend/roommate reported her missing (AbuDrake post #556, Thread1; Fleurde post #694 & #775, Thread1)
I’d not made this connection before your post. TW says she’s going away for a while, and GF calls the police less than 48 hours later? Odd.

Taylor is a subcontractor for 2 large PI firms whose clients are mostly insurance companies (VI AbuDrake post#113, #377, Thread1)
At least 5 by my count. I never got the full story...I knew of 3 going into the divorce trial, learned about 2 other PI companies only because of this investigation.

Taylor’s ex-husband wanted a passport for their son so he could travel with the son to visit family in other countries. TW told her GF that she didn't want her son to leave the country because of terrorism abroad. (Fleurde post #983, Thread1)
...yet Taylor said only a few months earlier that she wanted a passport for him so she could take him to Canada on spring break. And, she signed the passport form in April of ‘17! She just didn’t include a copy of her ID, so I can’t use it. Of note - the reason I need the passport is that I have family in Canada. I trust that you can do the math here.

Taylor grew up riding horses on her adopted mother’s farm located about 3 hours from Pensacola and TW’s adoptive mother still has a horse that TW rides on visits. (Fleurde post #778, Thread1).
Inaccurate but not relevant. She rode horses in horse shows while living in NY, before moving to FL at age 11. In the time I’ve known her, she’s ridden exactly once. Never rode at Nancy’s farm.

Taylor’s ex claims she assaulted him (twice) and put a GPS tracker on his car; Ex also claims TW abused him during their marriage and threatened to end his career (AbuDrake posts#149 , #150, #173 & #193 &#277, Thread1)
Threats to my career are a matter of court record - it resulted in the Aug’16 injunction preventing her from contacting my employer.

Abuse during marriage was emotional, never physical - she’d get an idea of guilt or wrongdoing in her head, and be unable to let go of it for any reason. It wasn’t temporary, emotional highs...it was persistent, vindictive, and focused. She’d say a bunch of mean words and do mean things, but (almost) never physical violence. It wasn’t an angry tantrum.

This is relevant to the case: I don’t think anyone, specifically to include Nancy and Fleurde, understand how single-minded she is when she gets it in her mind that someone has wronged her. She is obsessed with revenge and ‘winning.’

People dismiss what I say because of the acrimony inherent in divorce...they figure it’s a mutual thing. They are right to have that prejudice - “his side, her side, and the truth.” But I have to say that this case is an outlier to the norm. This was not a mutual affray...this was an extremely one-sided campaign of extortion, torment, and destruction. You can’t understand any of the events leading up to her disappearance without understanding this! I hate that I have to list her negative qualities in public like this, but it’s the only way to help people understand the dynamics at work. She was utterly obsessed with ‘winning’ against me - to the exclusion of everything else in her life.

That’s why I’m so firm in my opinion that her disappearance (at least at first) was a premeditated stunt designed to delay court proceedings and give her time to convert cashiers checks into cash, which she can keep hidden. Losing that money is a red line that she’s unwilling to cross, for any reason. Demonstrably, she’s willing to ignore the court order.

But I am starting to think that this gambit went awry because she ended up on the wrong side of some other red lines of hers.

#1 - She was caught lying to the court about going to help with Irma, and so she now faces perjury charges → jail time...in addition to contempt charges for ignoring the court order. She does NOT want to go back to jail and I think may prefer to end her life rather than suffer it again. Of note - this is sloppy of her...totally uncharacteristic to be caught in an provable lie like this. Normally her lies are very difficult to disprove.

#2 - Her appeal was dismissed, and now she’ll have a hard time denying what has happened. She has to acknowledge that all of her effort was for nothing - and worse yet, she’s stuck with the bill.

#3 - Fleurde doesn’t seem to understand how damaging it is for Taylor to be publicly outed. She’s been pretty overtly homophobic in the past, but that’s not what matters. The problem here is that she used a full-throated denial of homosexual tendencies as the foundation for denying the rumors/reports of her infidelity. I have heard these discussions first-hand, and had them relayed to me as well: “No, of course I didn’t have sex with women while he was gone! Are you crazy? Eww! I’m not gay! He’s so full of ****! In fact, it was HIM that was cheating on ME!”

All of her moral high ground - all of her claims that this divorce case was me abruptly leaving her for another woman - it all falls apart when that story of hers is exposed as a lie. That is absolutely earth shattering for Taylor in ways that you need to stop and think about. Her entire ‘moral’ case is shattered now, exposed as a lie - by someone who is very clearly a loving, honest person who cares for her. This isn’t a rumor beneficial to her ex that can be dismissed as such. It’s now public knowledge that Taylor has at least one stable, open, and apparently healthy same-sex relationship.

Any one of these is hard to come back from. All of them together, at the same time, when she was already scrambling in the backfield? Man...self harm or staying away permanently starts to look like a viable option at this point. (I hope like hell I’m wrong.)


Was Taylor carrying a gun when she went missing?

Taylor may be armed; Taylor’s ex claims she usually carried 2 guns on her- A G42 and G17 one in an appendix holder and one at her ankle (VI AbuDrake post #107 & #556)
She’s usually in cargo shorts...it’s Florida...so not carrying on her ankle. But when in pants, she often does.

Taylor’s GF claims TW rarely carried a gun, she did not carry a purse to conceal one; GF has NEVER seen TW carry a gun at her ankle in the 6 months they have been together (Fleurde post # 791 & #839 Thread1)

Who had legal custody or their son when Taylor went missing? Was custody finalized by the courts?

Taylor voluntarily gave custody of her son to her ex in the divorce in 2016; Taylor allowed her son to move to NC with his father and the Guardian At Litem commended her for this decision (AbuDrake post #47 & #218, Thread1).

Taylor was fighting to regain custody of her son just prior to going missing. She had put down a retainer for a lawyer to fight for custody. Taylor was also appealing the ordered child support amount; Appeal initially denied because TW and ex had not yet separated HHG. HHG still were not divided when TW went missing (AbuDrake post#218, Fleurde post #774, #852, & 987, Thread1)
No - she put down a retainer for the appeals attorney. It was denied for a bunch of reasons - I still don’t understand what she was trying to say, and apparently the court didn’t either.

I do not think she genuinely wanted Drake back at this point. She rarely took advantage of her timesharing with him over the past year, and turned down extra time with him almost every time I offered. During the year that she lived in Destin, Drake didn’t even have his own bed - he had to share with his mother or her roommate when his mother had someone else in the bed. This past summer she didn’t even have a house - she was couch surfing, and Drake was with her.

Had she gotten her act together, moved in with Fleurde, and gotten back on her feet - I can see her bringing this up in a few years. But at this point - it’s not what she wanted. But given the stigma that a woman faces in this area, she has to be able to tell people that she was at least trying, and that I’d done XYZ to trick the courts. That’s what you’re hearing from Fleurde.

The following summary statement is from a June 2017 divorce court decision:
“ORDER VACATING EMERGENCY EX PARTE ORDER FREEZING BANK ACCOUNT AND ORDER DIRECTING PARTIES TO DISTRIBUTE THE BANK ACCOUNT AS ORDERED IN TEH SUPPLEMENTAL FINAL JUDGMENT OF DISSOLUTION OF MARRIAGE” (Okaloosaclerk.com)
The VI’s have given differing accounts of what this summary line means for the money that Taylor withdrew in June. Both VI’s agree that she withdrew $100,000 from her account in June 2017.
That’s just the court un-doing the freezing of the account.

Taylor’s ex claims about $30,000 of $100,000 withdrawn belongs to him; TW was also ordered to pay $4200 in retroactive child support and $600 a month thereafter. TW was also ordered to transfer $25k of the $100k she withdrew in an escrow account to cover real estate expenses. (AbuDrake posts #106, #158, #294 & #556, Thread1).

Taylor’s GF claims the $100,000 was award in Taylor’s column in the marriage dissolution. "When it was unfrozen, TW had legal right to it. Step 2 from the court ordered her to pay to help them sell a mutual property." Any taxes to be paid, would have to be done for the 2017 tax year, which is filed in 2018. (Fleurde posts # 814, #982, #984 Thread1)
Both of these are accurate. She did get the 100k - and from that, had to pay her share of the real estate expenses ($25k into escrow). She didn’t do that...and she’s since racked up some more bills. Total she owes right now is over 30k.

Did Taylor have an affair while married?

Taylor’s ex claims she had an extramarital affair in Feb 2015. Taylor denied any affair. Her ex moved out of their house in March 2015 and the other woman moved into their house in April 2015. Taylor allegedly lost that rental house due to arguments with the other woman requiring police/EMA intervention (VI AbuDrake posts # 145 & 176).

Not Feb ‘15 for start of affair: her friendship with the other woman turned sexual in November ‘14. They ‘broke up’ by February of ‘15, but after the split Taylor moved her (and her son) into my old house from April through June ‘15. They were on-again, off-again through at least May ‘16.

Link to the Google Doc where AbuDrake wrote the above red comments to clarify and expand the timeline: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AthcitNVWSUHKOeoE9mIsRHansW0tjQ-e-MP-V8X3is/edit

Last version of Timeline in it's entirety: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...nsacola-7-Sept-2017-2&p=13685224#post13685224

 

[Gcurious]

I am still trying to figure out WS. How do I contact an admin or mod for this thread please?

 

[Gardener1850]

I am still trying to figure out WS. How do I contact an admin or mod for this thread please?

Welcome Gcurious. bessie is the mod that moved us into thread number 2 so you can try contacting her. Go to post number 1 here: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...nsacola-7-Sept-2017-2&p=13685191#post13685191

Click on her name underlined in blue. It should give you the option to send her a PM. Unless you are on tapatalk or something--then I have no idea if it's the same procedure (I use a laptop).

ETA: I will also alert your post so if there is a mod currently here they can contact you themselves. Several are over the missing persons forum.

 

[Gcurious]

Gardener1850, I am trying to find TOS or rules as I don't want to violate. Are we allowed to post names of people involved in the thread, can I post street names of billiard/safe deposit female residence and business to help with map?

 

[Gardener1850]

Gardener1850, I am trying to find TOS or rules as I don't want to violate. Are we allowed to post names of people involved in the thread, can I post street names of billiard/safe deposit female residence and business to help with map?

No, that is against the rules. They have to be named in MSM --the main stream media or police. And even if they are named by the press we are not allowed to sleuth them (and post about it) unless they are named as a suspect in the case. If you have found something you think is significant about someone not named here, send it as a tip to the police or to the PI Taylor worked for (he is named in the first post of the thread and easy to find on facebook). Thanks for trying to help with the map.

 

[Midge Montana]

Thanks Abu, for your clarifications. It seems, sadly, that TW's life was imploding at the time she went missing.
I hope she is found soon.

 

[Bird of Paradise]

AbuDrake's comments to Gardener's timeline have been most revealing on many counts.

With regard to clarifying the horse riding comment, it is quite important as Fleurde was told TW had gone for a ride and that was part of the delay in coming home.

Taylor grew up riding horses on her adopted mother’s farm located about 3 hours from Pensacola and TW’s adoptive mother still has a horse that TW rides on visits. (Fleurde post #778, Thread1).
Inaccurate but not relevant. She rode horses in horse shows while living in NY, before moving to FL at age 11. In the time I’ve known her, she’s ridden exactly once. Never rode at Nancy’s farm.