Found Deceased FL - Taylor Wright, 33, Pensacola, 8 Sept 2017 #2 *Arrest*

[Kadoober]

I wish we could see the bank surveillance video from the bank.
What was the demeanor of the 2 as they went into the room with the SD box, and what was it as they left?

Was all of the $ TW put into the box still there when they went to retrieve it?

 

[JLD333]

While we are on the subject, can anyone weigh in on whether horseback riding calms them down when stressed? I grew up going to a summer camp where I rode but I haven't been on a horse since I was a teen. I was just a kid, but I recall that if I was stressed or upset the horses always sensed it. It's not something I would personally choose to do as an adult blow off steam. It sounds like something from a bad novel to me. But that's just me. Anyone here use horseback riding as a means of calming themselves when stressed out?

I haven't ridden a horse since I was in my early teens, but most people I know that ride horses find it to be calming. Equine therapy is used in the mental health facility I work in for kids with attachment disorders and other mental health issues. Equine therapy involves taking care of the horse as well, but they do usually ride some too.

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[FlossyMay]

I think most of Taylor's friends must know that she's a missing person by now. I would be very uncomfortable harboring her knowing that her family and friends were hurting and that LE and PIs were looking for her. Now, I know everyone is not the same, but I'm sure most people would feel that way.

 

[Midge Montana]

Let me re-word my post (that I deleted).

Am I wrong in thinking that the police still believe she just left of her own accord?
They're not actually actively 'searching' for her or recommending search parties, or posters, etc. and are in fact discouraging them.
She is said to be voluntarily missing, which isn't a crime. Or, did I miss something where they changed that to a suspicious disappearance, endangered missing, possible abduction, possible murder or something of that nature?

In other words, has this statement been updated by police:
"We've questioned numerous amount of people and through that investigation that is why we believe she left on her own," said Public Information Officer Mike Wood.

It does lead one to believe they have learned through their questioning that she just felt like leaving and did so.

 

[FlossyMay]

It is their job to verify Taylor's well-being. They can't just take someone else's word for it. This is why I asked if there had been any sightings of Taylor. If they had proof, the case would be closed.

 

[Jethro4WS]

This is why having a map would be helpful-- to study the timeline of events presented and figure out if it's even possible. But unless Fleurde or AbuDrake want to give us the general location of the farm (street) and the friend's street name we are not allowed to sleuth those without MSM. I was also thinking that between 3:30 and 5 PM on a Friday could be higher traffic times. Kids are getting out of school and many working adults leave earlier on Fridays if they can. I'm not familiar with Pensacola, however. Any locals want to weigh in on the traffic patterns in the area between 3:30 and 5 PM on a typical Friday?

One thing to keep in mind, and it came up very early on the first thread for Taylor is that evacuations from South Florida were already underway by Friday the 8th. Schools were closed statewide for the 8th (and 11th) so they could be used for shelters if necessary. There was likely quite a bit of extra traffic in that area with people headed either further west to Alabama, Mississippi, maybe even Louisiana or north into Alabama and Georgia. I expect a lot of hotels in that area and really for quite a distance were booked solid.

How much of the extra interstate traffic plus people taking hotels in the area affected local traffic patterns I don't know but there are only so many bridges across the peninsulas and islands in the far western panhandle area.

 

[Bird of Paradise]

Without having transcripts from police interviews of known person to have last seen TW, we're all treading water here.

Based on the snippet below from Gardener's timeline, there is one person whose interview would be most telling. That's the last known person to have seen her. Timeline sbm for focus. All from 9/8.

9:50 AM
A friend of TW’s pulled up and said “hi” as GF left. TW left soon after to go to the bank with the friend.

3:30 PM
Friend calls GF and says that TW is out riding a horse

7:00 PM CST
Taylor still has not called or texted so GF texts friend again. Friend calls again and says that Taylor had left from her house (not the farm) around 5 PM.

7:58 PM CST
GF gets a text from “TW” saying she should have called, she needed some time to think and get her life organized and on track. No other replies

11:54 PM CST
GF gets a text from Friend with a screenshot of a text “TW” just sent her saying TW was okay, needed to get away for a few days.

-Horse riding - she could have started much earlier in the day and finished just after GF calls 'friend' who says @3:30 she's riding. Possible but highly doubtful.

-Question: Why did TW text the 'friend' and not her GF to say she needed to get away for a few days? Wouldn't that be a normal follow up to her text to her GF that took place at 7:58 where she says she needed time to think? Instead of texting GF to say hey, decided I need to get away, don't be worried, she sent the 'friend' the text.

 

[Jethro4WS]

If my best friend was at my house and for whatever reason didn't want to talk to her husband. I could see myself making up excuses for her when he texted or called me. That is a believable scenario. However, if I did that and then the police came looking for her, I wouldn't continue to cover for her. Lying to the police is a crime and my friend could be in danger. So in my mind, there are only three options here.

1. All of these things happened just as the friend said.

If this happened then she either met with foul play, had some kind of accident, harmed herself or ran off to start a new life after leaving the friend's house.

The problem with the running away theory is that Ubers can be traced. Was Taylor lying about the Uber? If so, how did she travel? Did she rent a car and drive off into the night? How did she get to the car rental place? Did she hop on a plane and take off to who knows where? How did she get to the airport? Someone somewhere should have seen something. Sorry about that tongue twister.

2. The friend was lying to fleurde, but told the police the truth.

If this is what happened, why wouldn't the police tell Taylor's family that the friend lied to cover for her? Wouldn't they need to explain to the family what really happened?

3. The friend lied to fleurde and to the police.

The only way I'd lie to the cops in this situation would be to cover my own fanny.

Am I missing something here?

One possibility with #1 is that another of Taylor's friends could have picked her up and taken her elsewhere.

 

[Jethro4WS]

Wasn't you, but in general. Thanks for answering though! I have issues with my PM's too and it takes me 3 or 4 steps to get into my PM's when a popup alerts. There must be a better way, lol, I'll have to play around with it.

If you are on a computer and not a phone I can tell you how I manage with it. At the top where it say notifications if you click the little arrow one of the items that appears is "Inbox". Right-click that and open in a new tab in your browser. Bookmark it for easier access later. When go to WS and login and do whatever it is you do just open a new tab and load the tab using the bookmark for your inbox. That way your inbox is always open. Then when a notification comes in, if you have them turned on, click Cancel on the notification that offers to take you to the message. Switch to the tab where you have your inbox and reload it (usually F5 key you press) and the message will be there.

 

[bsarlo]

One possibility with #1 is that another of Taylor's friends could have picked her up and taken her elsewhere.

Maybe #2

Friend lied to fleurde
told truth to police (told police where she went and PPD confirmed somehow)
PPD contacted family - Is this now only TW's mom?? TW's mom, in an effort to keep TW out of jail for the divorce mess is not telling anyone the truth.

Would AbuDrake and fleurde be considered "family" to LE?

 

[JLD333]

I think most of Taylor's friends must know that she's a missing person by now. I would be very uncomfortable harboring her knowing that her family and friends were hurting and that LE and PIs were looking for her. Now, I know everyone is not the same, but I'm sure most people would feel that way.

If she has a friend that lives hours away and doesn't know many of her other friends, I don't think it'd be that shocking. Looking at her Facebook profile, I saw multiple comments from people that lived at least a couple hours away. And if they don't have Facebook, they almost definitely wouldn't be aware.


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[Jethro4WS]

I think most of Taylor's friends must know that she's a missing person by now. I would be very uncomfortable harboring her knowing that her family and friends were hurting and that LE and PIs were looking for her. Now, I know everyone is not the same, but I'm sure most people would feel that way.

You need only look at the Madeline Jones / William Jones-Gouchenour case out of Arizona to see that people will do such things. In that case there are at least one dozen, if not two dozen people that knew the parent were helping her hide, that drove Madeline and the baby to California, that hid her at her destination, that facilitated communications, that helped Madeline disguise her appearance, that handed off evidence to other parties, and that all of these people lied to the police on multiple occasions.

It is especially common among younger missing persons - teenagers - that friends will lie about whether they know where their friend is or who they might be with. Even parents or relatives of the person that is with the missing person will lie about knowing where they are or if they had been in contact with them. That is the case in the Mary Helms case (missing along with Jon Turner) that is still active and with the Stormie Clemmer case where she ultimately was found in Tennessee with the guy from Ohio who picked her up in Texas.

 

[Bird of Paradise]

Pardon me but another question...

Who saw TW with the two backpacks and do we know for fact that TW didn't have any of her clothes and necessary items in there in order to take a trip? We know it doesn't take two (or even one) backpack to hold $30K.

8 Sept 2017 – Taylor allegedly seen with backpacks containing $30,000 in cash and $30,000 in cashier’s checks. She got the money and checks out of a friend’s safe deposit box at Wells Fargo Bank. The friend who took her to the bank is the same one who lent her the moving truck. (AbuDrake posts #47, #55, #113, 283, #285, #331, #372 Thread 1)

 

[Gardener1850]

Maybe #2

Friend lied to fleurde
told truth to police (told police where she went and PPD confirmed somehow)
PPD contacted family - Is this now only TW's mom?? TW's mom, in an effort to keep TW out of jail for the divorce mess is not telling anyone the truth.

Would AbuDrake and fleurde be considered "family" to LE?

Fleude filed the missing persons report. PPD should at least update Fleurde, IMO. If police were able to confirm TW is voluntarily gone they would close the case. JMO.

 

[Jethro4WS]

Maybe #2

Friend lied to fleurde
told truth to police (told police where she went and PPD confirmed somehow)
PPD contacted family - Is this now only TW's mom?? TW's mom, in an effort to keep TW out of jail for the divorce mess is not telling anyone the truth.

Would AbuDrake and fleurde be considered "family" to LE?

Here is the real difficulty. The person that is being referred to as Taylor's mom is not her mom. She is referred to as the "adoptive" mother because she never legally adopted Taylor. Because of that LE is really under no obligation to tell her anything. Taylor does have a father. And as near as I can tell she doesn't have any siblings. Any of her "adoptive" mother's children are not true siblings of Taylor either.

So, it seems that the only person that LE would be obligated to contact would be her father.

More complications to this than what we normally encounter.

 

[bsarlo]

Pardon me but another question...

Who saw TW with the two backpacks and do we know for fact that TW didn't have any of her clothes and necessary items in there in order to take a trip? We know it doesn't take two (or even one) backpack to hold $30K.

8 Sept 2017 – Taylor allegedly seen with backpacks containing $30,000 in cash and $30,000 in cashier’s checks. She got the money and checks out of a friend’s safe deposit box at Wells Fargo Bank. The friend who took her to the bank is the same one who lent her the moving truck. (AbuDrake posts #47, #55, #113, 283, #285, #331, #372 Thread 1)

According to the timeline and posts by AbuDrake, she was seen with the backpacks on :

Post #47 - "Friday"
Post #55 - no mention of backpacks
Post #113 - no mention of backpacks.
Post #283 - no mention of backpacks.
Post #285 - no mention of backpacks.
Post #331 - jno mention of backpacks.
Post #337 - no mention of backpacks

I think we can probably stop referring to the backpacks...

I was also wondering how do we know she went to the bank? TW told fluerde she was going to the bank, but did horseback riding friend confirm it? Again it comes down to such a tight timeline. Would she have time to go to the bank, get access to SDB, AND ride horses?

None of this info is first hand or from LE or from MSM...right?

 

[Gardener1850]

Here is the real difficulty. The person that is being referred to as Taylor's mom is not her mom. She is referred to as the "adoptive" mother because she never legally adopted Taylor. Because of that LE is really under no obligation to tell her anything. Taylor does have a father. And as near as I can tell she doesn't have any siblings. Any of her "adoptive" mother's children are not true siblings of Taylor either.

So, it seems that the only person that LE would be obligated to contact would be her father.

More complications to this than what we normally encounter.

Do the police really require a blood relative to be the point-of-contact for a missing person's case? I have only heard that they prefer families appoint a spokesperson to be the main contact so they don't have 12 people calling asking for updates. Of course, LE might choose not to give any updates to anyone if they suspect foul play by someone close to the victim...

 

[Capebluff]

Fleude filed the missing persons report. PPD should at least update Fleurde, IMO. If police were able to confirm TW is voluntarily gone they would close the case. JMO.

What gets me is this... As it sounds, TW was with friend most of the day. Lack of communication b/w Fluerde & TW seems to be what initiated the texts between Fluerde & Friend. Considering the fact that TW wasn’t communicating ‘regularly/normally’ with Fluerde on this day, it could lead one to believe there was some reason for TW not wanting to have contact with Fluerde. If this were the case, I would imagine TW would have shared that feeling with the friend. (All MOO!!)
Now, later on in the evening/night, friend allegedly receives a text from TW stating she needs to get away for a few days. Friend proceeds to immediately screenshot said text & forward to Fluerde. Is this because friend genuinely felt sympathetic toward Fluerde, & knowing she was concerned wanted to reassure her that TW was ok? Or...??

Also, I am curious as to what Fluerde’s reaction/initial thought process was after receiving from friend this screenshot of TW text stating she needs to get away for a few days. I can’t help but to think that IF Fluerde believed this text came from TW & IF Fluerde trusted that all was ok & IF Fluerde hadn’t suspected any foul play, etc., she never would have reported TW missing as soon as she did.
I say this only bc if a friend of mine said they needed to get away for a few days I would never think to report them missing unless there were other factors prompting me to do so.

Of course all MOO!!!

 

[FlossyMay]

Where does her real family stand in all of this I wonder. I mean biological family, no disrespect to Nancy intended.

 

[bsarlo]

..I can’t help but to think that IF Fluerde believed this text came from TW & IF Fluerde trusted that all was ok & IF Fluerde hadn’t suspected any foul play, etc., she never would have reported TW missing as soon as she did.
I say this only bc if a friend of mine said they needed to get away for a few days I would never think to report them missing unless there were other factors prompting me to do so...

SBM

Possible other factors could be that her GF left her without telling her first hand...maybe fleurde felt betrayed and thus went to LE?


Would LE allow her to leave of her own accord if they knew about her financial and legal obligations?