FL - Tommy Poindexter & 3 others for mother-son gang rape, West Palm Beach, 2007

[christine2448]

So sad, just not right. And, we have these celebrities like Angelina Jolie and George Clooney, etc., raising money and flapping their jaws to congress, the UN, etc., for aid for these far off places, when HELL is right here in their own backyard. It's shameful. :banghead:

RIGHT?????? :slap: :slap: To those celebs who should be helping our own!

Excellent post, IMO, FWIW!
:woohoo: :clap: :clap: :clap:

 

[Boyzmomee]

All can I say is that you would have to kill me before I would do that.
And someone is going down with me as I die.

Agreed.

 

[Boyzmomee]

So sad, just not right. And, we have these celebrities like Angelina Jolie and George Clooney, etc., raising money and flapping their jaws to congress, the UN, etc., for aid for these far off places, when HELL is right here in their own backyard. It's shameful. :banghead:

Oh, please. I admire Angelina Jolie and the work she has done.

She is not responsible for housing projects and crimes committed in them.

Just as I choose which charities to support so does she.


If we used your "logic" (and I use the term loosely)..we should censure Mother Theresa for serving in India, or members of the Peace Corp for serving in the Dominican Republic.

There is enough suffering to go around and I admire those who try to alleviate any of it.

 

[CarpeDiem]

Oh, please. I admire Angelina Jolie and the work she has done.

She is not responsible for housing projects and crimes committed in them.

Just as I choose which charities to support so does she.


If we used your "logic" (and I use the term loosely)..we should censure Mother Theresa for serving in India, or members of the Peace Corp for serving in the Dominican Republic.

There is enough suffering to go around and I admire those who try to alleviate any of it.

Touche. She and the other's have done GOOD work. And, the suffering of the people in other parts of the world isn't less or less important than ours. But, who will be the voice for these people? Who will try and solve this problem and end these people's misery, also. Atleast when American Idol did the Idol Gives Back special last season, they didn't forget America with the rest, many places of suffering in the world were helped. Sorry to offend.

 

[mysteriew]

Rape victim in hiding
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/local_...meblog/entries/2007/07/09/rape_victim_in.html

The mother and son were told by the attackers that if they told they would be back and set them on fire. Mother and son have moved out of the project and haven't even told family where they are, though she has talked to her father and told him she was somewhere safe. Of course she is scared. There were at least 10 of them and only two are in custody. Even after they catch the other 8, she still has to worry about their friends. And why have they not gotten the other 8 yet anyway?

 

[Cheetah]

West Palm Beach police have arrested a third teenager Thursday in connection with the June gang rape of a Dunbar Village woman. Jakaris Sansay Taylor, 15, was arrested at 6:45 a.m. at his mother's apartment in the 1800 block of Douglas Avenue. Police say he was identified through a fingerprint found in the victim's apartment.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/local_news/epaper/2007/07/12/0712gangrape.html

 

[amynrich]

God Bless these 2 as they try to heal mentally from this awful crime..i sure hope they are ok.

 

[kwatson696]

A video at this link..
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/lo...6pnjul06,0,2206664.story?coll=sofla_home_util

 

[christine2448]

I am so praying for the mom and child. I hope they will be OK. I don't know if I would ever be OK.

 

[Cheetah]

The police report states that mother and son were forced to have sex at gunpoint.....

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/interactives/Dunbar_arrest3.html

 

[Mr. E]

3 down, 7 to go...

 

[SewingDeb]

I am so praying for the mom and child. I hope they will be OK. I don't know if I would ever be OK.

I don't think I ever would be ok again. The terror of knowing most of them are still out there (and may never be rounded up), and the threats if they told, would be horrifying. Sure not conducive to healing.

 

[missacorah]

Its unbelieveable! I mean how did they all broach the subject that this would be something they would all be interested in doing together? Surely normal teens/young men would have beat the living daylights out of someone who had seriously suggested that for being a pervert not agreed to go along and made sure it happened. Disturbed little inbreds.

 

[mysteriew]

Its unbelieveable! I mean how did they all broach the subject that this would be something they would all be interested in doing together? Surely normal teens/young men would have beat the living daylights out of someone who had seriously suggested that for being a pervert not agreed to go along and made sure it happened. Disturbed little inbreds.

It's called gang mentality. When they went there it probably wasn't for rape and torture. Maybe for robbery or to "teach" the boy a lesson for being so "stuck up." But once in there, it only took one to start the sex assaults. The others would have followed suit, then one or more would have had to "one up" or escalate things to prove how "tough" they were. The others would have also followed suit.

 

[UM&AMWfan]

The bad part is even if they were sent to Texas they would not be executed since there is no death penalty for sex offenses or assault. It's hard to think that they'll probably be released from jail one day.

Someone mentioned the victims were Haitians but were the rapists black too?

 

[Cheetah]

Someone mentioned the victims were Haitians but were the rapists black too?

Yes the rapists were black, and they would never pursue this as a hate crime, but I can bet this would have never happened if the victims were American. They might have robbed and raped, but not make a mother have sex with her son. They did this because the victims were Haitian. I am sure of that.

Dunbar Village is one of a few housing projects in our area, but it is the worse. MOST of the people who live there are not trying to better themselves. So you have this woman from Haiti, who was forced to live there, yet still trying to survive. She was probably one of very few who actually go to work everyday, had a car, and a son who focused on school. The mentality of the people in that neighborhood would be that she thought she was too good to live there. Not all, but most. I can tell you that there is NO way that this happened without others knowing about it beforehand, seeing it, or hearing it....yet no one helped her???? It's the mentality of some of the people who live in these neighborhoods, they don't like Haitians. We have a huge Haitian population in this area. They come here and work the lowest paying jobs, sometimes work 2 or 3 jobs...but at least they work. It's a constant battle of cultures. In fact, a lot of these Haitian teenagers are forming gangs and getting really dangerous. One of these gangs also produces rap music and if you listen to the lyrics, you can hear the anger from the oppression they face in the black community.

 

[Boyzmomee]

Touche. She and the other's have done GOOD work. And, the suffering of the people in other parts of the world isn't less or less important than ours. But, who will be the voice for these people? Who will try and solve this problem and end these people's misery, also. Atleast when American Idol did the Idol Gives Back special last season, they didn't forget America with the rest, many places of suffering in the world were helped. Sorry to offend.

No problem. I understand your frustration.

 

[Boyzmomee]

While I agree to a certain extent I don't think you can entirely attribute what these boys did to something that happened to them (or didn't happen to them, like parenting). There has to be something else. What makes one child suffer abuse and yet go on in life to become a productive, respectable human and then another to do nothing with their life but live a life of crime? David Pelzer comes to mind (A Boy Called It). He suffered years and years of horrible abuse and look at him today.
I was so upset about this case that I talked with my mother about it. She pretty much said the same thing. My father grew up without parents (due to the death of his mother when he was 8 mos old and his father was too old to care for him). He was shuffled from family member to family member and abused at each home. He suffered emotional, physical and sexual abuse yet he grew up to be a man that I'm proud to call my father. Yes, he carried issues throughout his life but he wanted better for himself and his children.
I guess it can go either way. Either they look at what they've been through and attempt to better themselves or they look at it and decide that everyone is going to pay for the life that they did or didn't have.

Choices.

 

[UM&AMWfan]

Yes the rapists were black, and they would never pursue this as a hate crime, but I can bet this would have never happened if the victims were American. They might have robbed and raped, but not make a mother have sex with her son. They did this because the victims were Haitian. I am sure of that.

Dunbar Village is one of a few housing projects in our area, but it is the worse. MOST of the people who live there are not trying to better themselves. So you have this woman from Haiti, who was forced to live there, yet still trying to survive. She was probably one of very few who actually go to work everyday, had a car, and a son who focused on school. The mentality of the people in that neighborhood would be that she thought she was too good to live there. Not all, but most. I can tell you that there is NO way that this happened without others knowing about it beforehand, seeing it, or hearing it....yet no one helped her???? It's the mentality of some of the people who live in these neighborhoods, they don't like Haitians. We have a huge Haitian population in this area. They come here and work the lowest paying jobs, sometimes work 2 or 3 jobs...but at least they work. It's a constant battle of cultures. In fact, a lot of these Haitian teenagers are forming gangs and getting really dangerous. One of these gangs also produces rap music and if you listen to the lyrics, you can hear the anger from the oppression they face in the black community.

You would think the blacks would want to help their fellow black Haitians out but I guess not.

 

[Cheetah]

Some info about the suspects:

WEST PALM BEACH — In the days after the vicious attack on a mother and son in Dunbar Village, detectives knocked on doors across the city, asking other mothers about their sons.

At least three of those mothers agreed to take their teenage sons in for questioning. And one by one, they were confronted with evidence that their boys had been inside the apartment where the gang rape and torture took place.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/local_news/epaper/2007/07/15/m1a_DUNBAR_SUSPECTS_0715.html