FL FL - Weeki Wachee, WhtFem UP12589, 20-30, SK victim, in shallow grave, Mar'81

[Cafegirl]

Looking for photos of Patty and Peggy McDaniel. All I found was Peggy in the 1979 Suwannee HS yearbook as a sophomore. Even though they are twins, Patty wasn't shown, nor was she listed in the "Not Pictured" list. The 1978 book was unavailable.

But here is Peggy McDaniel

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[Skully]

The drawings remind me of Cynthia Gooding & Teresa Alfonso. But they went missing together in 1974 in Marathon and might be too young. Eerie resemblance though.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/218dffl.html
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2dffl.html

http://z10.invisionfree.com/usedtobedoe/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=22014446

In 1974 Billy would have been 18 - 19 years old, when was he in the service?

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

I learned of this guy from watching Omar Gosh,and G Team Paranormal on Youtube. They go into Haunted places,and post videos.
I also just got the book
Murders in the Swampland. 3rd Edition by Patricia Lieb. Amazon. The Mansfield serial killings are story # 17.
Looks like he killed a toddler when he was 7 years old.
He has a brother Gary that got immunity for testifying against him ( owns,or did ownl an Auto Wrecking busines) on the same property.
Their father William Manafield Sr. was a convicted pedophile.
I can't believe LE didn't search the propert more.
I bet there are more bodies.
I wonder why the FBI isn't on this.
Looks like this needs to get heated up.

 

[namstache]

12589 and 12579 both had their cases modified today with the composite drawings from Billy Mansfield. Additionally, some jewelry pictures for 12589 were added a few months ago for 12589:

12589 art:

12579:

 

[Skully]

There are more updates coming in these two cases. The age range may be revised for both victims.

 

[Skully]

12589 may be as young as 14.

 

[Ylva]

Do we know if the other two victims found were female?

 

[GreyClay]

Do we know if the other two victims found were female?

Hi Ylva, yes the two identified bodies both belonged to young women.

From articles posted by Migmuu earlier in the thread:

The police had begun excavating the property in March 1981 after being tipped off by an informant that they could find the body of missing 21-year-old Sandra Graham buried there. They found four bodies, two of whom have been identified as Sandra Graham and a 15-year-old named Elaine Zegler.

rbbm

 

[Sleuthster]

In 1974 Billy would have been 18 - 19 years old, when was he in the service?

I would love to see a time line on him. But, how do we know that it was Billy Jr and Not Billy Sr who killed these 2? I do agree that the new composites look a lot like Teresa Alfonso and Cynthia Gooding.

 

[Sleuthster]

They do think there's more bodies there according to this 2016 article about the show" The killing season". I wonder if they've searched recently. 'The Killing Season' Creators Share Scariest Moments Tracking LI Serial Killer

 

[Gardener1850]

12589 and 12579 both had their cases modified today with the composite drawings from Billy Mansfield. Additionally, some jewelry pictures for 12589 were added a few months ago for 12589:

12589 art:

12579:

I could not find a thread for UP12579, so I created one: FL - FL - Hernando Co, WhtFem, 20-30, Weeki Wachee, UP12579, 3 Apr 1981

Also, the granddaughter of Bettina Antone (missing since 1980) has been commenting on her thread and thinks UP12579 could be her missing grandmother. Perhaps some members here could join us on her thread and give her some support: CA - CA - Bettina Antone, 44, Redding, 29 Mar 1980

 

[coffeeandacig]

12589 may be as young as 14.

So far they haven't lowered the age on Namus, but if they do...

IMHO they should look at The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
MP#7914,
Dean Marie Pyle Peters,
14 years old,
Grand Rapids, MI
February 5, 1981
5' 2" - 5' 3"
110 lbs,
Brown Hair, Brown Eyes
Wearing: Pink Sweater, 27"-32" Levi Blue Jeans

*Partially-deteriorated piece of pinkish cloth was seen around the upper thigh and pelvic region
*Billy Mansfield bounced back and forth to Michigan, and married a 16 year old in the same town, Grand Rapids

 

[Skully]

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So far they haven't lowered the age on Namus, but if they do...

IMHO they should look at The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
MP#7914,
Dean Marie Pyle Peters,
14 years old,
Grand Rapids, MI
February 5, 1981
5' 2" - 5' 3"
110 lbs,
Brown Hair, Brown Eyes
Wearing: Pink Sweater, 27"-32" Levi Blue Jeans

*Partially-deteriorated piece of pinkish cloth was seen around the upper thigh and pelvic region
*Billy Mansfield bounced back and forth to Michigan, and married a 16 year old in the same town, Grand Rapids

by the date she went missing, they were already in jail. I would have to check but i know they got arrested in late 1980 IFRC but wow she fits a lot of it. But maybe check to see that the date they last heard from her is correct. I have found that in the old cold cases, dates or details get mixed up. I would submit this to them to look into.

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

They do think there's more bodies there according to this 2016 article about the show" The killing season". I wonder if they've searched recently. 'The Killing Season' Creators Share Scariest Moments Tracking LI Serial Killer

Two UID cases from Weeki Wachee has been made public on NamUs just recently. These UIDs were found March 19th and April 3rd 1981 respectively, though.

I made threads for them:

FL - FL - Weeki Wachee, UnkFem UP61218, adult, co-mingled with another homicide victim, Mar'81

FL - FL - Weeki Wachee, UnsUnc UP61264, adult, co-mingled w/another victim, est.YoD 1975-1981, Apr'81

 

[mainemom376]

Looks like you called it. It always amazes me when years later, LE return to the scene for more digging and find yet more bodies. JMO

 

[Skully]

Looks like you called it. It always amazes me when years later, LE return to the scene for more digging and find yet more bodies. JMO

The press jumped the gun, there were NO BODIES found yesterday.

 

[mainemom376]

The press jumped the gun, there were NO BODIES found yesterday.

Oh jeez. Did they update the story? I can’t find a thing.

 

[Skully]

the sheriff put out a statement on the HCSO FB page.

 

[Sleuthster]

They found something and I have a feeling it is remains. Very disturbing. If they are remains, I believe personally that it may have nothing to do with Billy Jr. Billy Sr. was released in 2005 from prison and they could be more recent. I truly believe that it's a family thing. They are sick.
Deputies search property where serial killer Billy Mansfield Jr. buried victims

 

[Sleuthster]

old news story 1981 FLORIDA POLICE SEEK MORE BODIES IN 5-ACRE JUNKYARD (Published 1981)