FL FL - Yessinia Suarez, 28, & 2 children, Deltona, 22 Oct 2013 #1 *L. Toledo guilty*

[Kamille]

I have suspected the Osteen/415 area from the start. There is basically nothing between Deltona and Edgewater/Oak Hill. But I think they have cell phone pings guiding them right now.

Keep in mind that a boy and his grandma went missing several years ago in Deltona. It took three years before they found his body, and they never found his grandma's body.

That's another thing with this case. Did he dispose of them all together? I have to assume he did because his timeline is so tight and because he refuses to give up the wife's location even though he has admitted to killing her. Now that could be because the children are also there or because she didn't die in the manner that he indicated.

But it does worry me that he claims that someone else killed the children. Which might indicate that they are not going to be found with their mother.

MOO

 

[Kamille]

Yeah, he had 3 people to get rid of quickly, so if he did manage to find some sort of containers, its possible that he could basically pull over and throw them off without too much effort.

The dumpster theory is also likely too of course, as well as some wooded area. The only thing about the wooded area is he would most likely have to go back to his vehicle 2 more times to get each person to drag to the woods, so not sure he would even make that kind of effort. He would most likely be thinking of a simple way to quickly get rid of them. Of course, if he did use the woods, he probably would not go too far in the woods, so they are all possibities I suppose.

This case is so sad and tragic. He did not have to do any of this. The poor kids and mother. My goodness, it is horrible.

BBM

According to a previous victim, he showed up to that beating with a garbage bag in his back pocket. I hope LE have confiscated all remaining garbage bags in the house. May have also used the same bags to throw out his clothes and cleaning supplies.

MOO

 

[Hatfield]

BBM

According to a previous victim, he showed up to that beating with a garbage bag in his back pocket. I hope LE have confiscated all remaining garbage bags in the house. May have also used the same bags to throw out his clothes and cleaning supplies.

MOO

Interesting and also scary. Sounds like he favored plastic trash bags. Possible dumpster method or even throwing bodies off bridge in plastic bags.

 

[sreshowtime]

i am a little surprised neighbors didn't hear anything, kinda, you know? hmm, unless the children were sleeping
ugh

 

[Hatfield]

i am a little surprised neighbors didn't hear anything, kinda, you know? hmm, unless the children were sleeping
ugh

One of the neighbors did hear screams. No comment....geeeesh

"...said her daughter heard screams at the home about the time Suarez and the children vanished."

http://www.wesh.com/news/central-fl...red/-/12983450/22600612/-/s578rz/-/index.html

 

[sreshowtime]

^oh me, I missed that...really?

zipping it

 

[What'sThatClue]

Well thank goodness they are searching that Elizabeth Ave/Lexington area that I mentioned earlier upthread. Finally! I wish they'd take in search cadaver dogs tho (tho maybe they did, I dunno).

http://www.news-journalonline.com/a...ams-to-resume-searching-for-bodies-in-morning

This is a 3 page article and links to pages 2 and 3 are near the bottom of the story on the right hand side. Not much new in the article. I posted it mainly for the pic of LE walking down Elizabeth St.

 

[What'sThatClue]

It would be a long shot but there is also Lyonia Preserve in Deltona.
And that is up just past where LT's former house is. He would be familiar with that area. Unless LE has his phone pings and isn't searching there for that reason (and I bet they do have the phone pings).

https://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf...04&ei=TYxxUqX-G8SisASa3oHYBA&ved=0CIYBEPwSMAo

 

[CluelessWonder]

Yes, I think they have some phone pings. Hopefully, they have more information that is at least as solid. Because the phone pings merely mean that a phone or two was chucked into the lake.

There is also Lake Monroe Wayside Park north of the 17/92 bridge, the Highbanks Marina area, the Fort Florida Road area, Konomac Lake, a recreation area or two or three near Osteen off 415, Lake Ashby northeast of Deltona on 415, the area around the exit/entrance ramps to I-4, the woods near Welcome Center Drive (by the gas station off DeBary Ave.) and on and on and on. I did a story on a guy who restored an old piano. He's a retired TV actor who lives off Lakeshore or in that area. His house, like many others, was 200-400 feet from the driveway entrance. There are a lot of houses hidden back in those trees, and you wouldn't even know they were there if not the mailboxes. If you can hide a house back in there, I'm sure you could hide a body.

I am going to do some searching Friday and Sunday. But I suspect that they might have recovered all three by then.

 

[lusd]

Lets say LT had help and the reason why LT isn't saying where the bodies are, is the person that help is the one that took the body's. JMO

I wonder what time it was they heard screaming?

 

[CluelessWonder]

Lets say LT had help and the reason why LT isn't saying where the bodies are, is the person that help is the one that took the body's. JMO

I wonder what time it was they heard screaming?

They found blood on the floor mats of the car left at Publix. He relied on a neighbor to help him dump the car. He wiped down the car. All of it points to him acting alone and moving the bodies in her vehicle.

 

[sreshowtime]

I seriously don't get the' lemme get the neighbor help take the car' deal. It's like he could have drove the car off any ole where and walked back. Or left the car with the bodies and walked or called a bud for a ride.

 

[Kamille]

They found blood on the floor mats of the car left at Publix. He relied on a neighbor to help him dump the car. He wiped down the car. All of it points to him acting alone and moving the bodies in her vehicle.

I know they found the floor mats but I'm not sure they found blood on them, unless it was from his shoes. I'm sure if there were bloody bodies in the interior of the car without the benefit of any type of wrapping or bagging there would be a lot more blood than just on the floor mats. Personally I was hoping they found dirt and debris that may give them some idea of where he was when he disposed of them. Same with his shoes and the undercarriage/tires of the car he used for the disposal.

MOO

 

[CluelessWonder]

I seriously don't get the' lemme get the neighbor help take the car' deal. It's like he could have drove the car off any ole where and walked back. Or left the car with the bodies and walked or called a bud for a ride.

It's odd for sure. It seems like he was not thinking very well at that point.

 

[Kamille]

It's odd for sure. It seems like he was not thinking very well at that point.

Well his brother did state that he was "out of it" when he showed up at his house at 5am. I think he was trying to piece together a plan. And he had to get rid of her car for his story about how when he woke up in his car that morning, she and the children were gone and he had no idea where they went, to fly. Not sure why he wanted the car to be near her work other than hoping that LE would think she had run to the boyfriend's home. Maybe the boyfriend lives near that Publix.

:waitasec: It's a head scratcher for sure.

MOO

 

[scmom]

That's another thing with this case. Did he dispose of them all together? I have to assume he did because his timeline is so tight and because he refuses to give up the wife's location even though he has admitted to killing her. Now that could be because the children are also there or because she didn't die in the manner that he indicated.

But it does worry me that he claims that someone else killed the children. Which might indicate that they are not going to be found with their mother.

MOO

That's what I think. First, I don't believe he killed her with a blow to the neck which wouldn't have left blood evidence, or at least very little. Second, I think he doesn't want to admit to killing the children because that's going to put him on the lowest order of the scum in prison. He's a coward.

 

[Kamille]

Actually now that I think about it, his original story accounted for the fact that his car was in the driveway all night so I suppose that it was. I wonder if hers was in the garage? He also threw in the part about coming home at 10pm and then leaving for an hour and returning. Two things which he also likely did. So he was fitting his story around what witnesses may have noticed. The times his car was there that evening. I wonder what he did for that hour earlier in the evening?

I also think he was still in the process of clean up when he was surprised by the quick response by LE to her disappearance. He couldn't have thought the family would be missed that quickly. So I'm not sure what his plan was for the neighbour as far as that early morning run to drop off the car.

I also wondered why the neighbour got dropped off at a convenience store and not back at home. If he had to go to the store for something, couldn't LT have waited for him? Or was he in a hurry to get somewhere else? Did he go somewhere else after dropping off the neighbour at the store?

MOO

 

[sreshowtime]

maybe by then the neighbor felt uncomfortable and said oh hey , drop me off we need a gallon of milk, nah,I will walk, need the exercise
or sumpin

 

[What'sThatClue]

The family needs volunteers to help with the search. Meet at noon at the Spanish Deltona Seventh Day Adventist Church located at 1108 Doyle Road, Deltona.

http://www.mynews13.com/content/new...cles/cfn/2013/10/30/missing_mom_search_r.html

 

[What'sThatClue]

maybe by then the neighbor felt uncomfortable and said oh hey , drop me off we need a gallon of milk, nah,I will walk, need the exercise
or sumpin

Strange tho. There is a convenience store just up the street from their homes, well within walking distance. Why not go home (which they would pass on their way to the convenience store---assuming he got dropped off at the Deltona store near their homes) first and then go to the store? Hmmm.