Flight to London Gatwick crashes at airport in India .June 12 th 2025

From my country's MSM

"Dreamliner Crash in India.
We Have Boeing's Comment.

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We asked Boeing
whether, following Thursday’s B787 Dreamliner crash,
the manufacturer has issued or plans to issue a recommendation for additional inspections of other machines of this type also operated in Europe,
including by LOT Polish Airlines.

We are aware of the initial reports and are working to gather additional information, the Boeing press office said in response to questions from money.pl.


A statement on the crash also appeared on Boeing's website.

'We are in contact with Air India regarding Flight 171
and stand ready to provide them with support.
Our thoughts are with the passengers, crew, emergency services and all those affected',
the press service of the aviation giant wrote.

According to news agencies,
just after takeoff the captain sent a 'Mayday' signal,
and shortly afterwards the plane crashed into buildings outside the airport."

:(

RIP to all victims.
Sincerest Condolences to Families.

To add

"Just a month ago,
Boeing officially celebrated 14 years of service
for the 787 Dreamliner family,
during which time the aircraft have carried more than a billion passengers worldwide."

 
Some good news, death toll is back down to 240

We are still verifying the number of dead, including those killed in the building where the plane crashed," Vidhi Chaudhary, a top state police officer, told Reuters.
She said the death toll was more than 240, revising down a previous toll of 294 as it included body parts that had been double counted. It was not immediately clear how many of the dead had been on the aircraft or on the ground.

 
My .02 is that Boeing needs to find out asap what caused this and if mechanical failure, they need to inspect all of their planes of this particular model ?
I haven't read yet unless I missed it -- how old was this plane ?
The passenger showing things that were not working is concerning !
Imo.
 

The pilot of the Air India crash frantically warned the plane was 'losing power' just moments before it crashed into a building, killing at least 260 people.

The London-bound Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner plunged into the busy suburb just seconds after taking off from Ahmedabad Airport this morning, claiming the lives of all but one passenger.

Captain Sumeet Sabharwal, who had 8,200 hours of flying experience, desperately cried 'Mayday…no thrust, losing power, unable to lift' before the aircraft went down and hit a residential property.
 
My .02 is that Boeing needs to find out asap what caused this and if mechanical failure, they need to inspect all of their planes of this particular model ?
I haven't read yet unless I missed it -- how old was this plane ?
The passenger showing things that were not working is concerning !
Imo.
This article from last year comes to mind:


I know this particular 787 didn’t break up mid-flight, but if that was a concern, I imagine there may be other issues as the planes age.
 
Absolutely horrible. If it truly was double engine failure, I wonder if it had something to do with electronics controlling the fuel mixture?
Possible, it could require multiple failures.

Electronics governing critical flight displays (glass cockpits, sans analog dials) have double, and triple back ups that are independently wired. Thus, for a airliner cockpit to go "lights out" on displays, several failures would need to occur simultaneously.

Fuel control systems might have the same kind of double and triple redundancies.
 
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''The Canadian citizen believed to be on an Air India flight that crashed shortly after takeoff is a dentist from Mississauga, Ont., her family has confirmed.

The husband of Nirali Sureshkumar Patel said she was on board the London-bound flight that crashed Thursday, killing at least 240 people.

Patel's dental clinic referred The Canadian Press to the husband, who said that he was in the process of booking travel to India for himself and the couple's one-year-old child.''
 
From my country's MSM

"Boeing 787 Dreamliner crashed in India.

What do we know about this plane?


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The Air India Boeing 787 Dreamliner
that crashed shortly after takeoff in Ahmedabad
had been flying since January 2014.

It was the first crash of this type of aircraft in history.

There are now more than 1,100 of them flying around the world.

The plane was registered under the registration number VT-ANB.
It is a shorter variant of the Dreamliner, known as the B787-8.

According to data from ch-aviation
the plane was manufactured in 2013 in Everett.

It was ordered by the carrier in late December 2005,
and its first flight took place on December 14, 2013.

In the configuration for Air India,
the plane could carry a maximum of 259 passengers in two classes of travel -
18 in business class
and 241 in economy class.

The plane was powered by two GEnx-1B engines,
ch-aviation estimated its market value at $67.37 million.

FlightRadar24 reports
that the plane was supposed to go on another flight from London-Gatwick - to Goa, south of Mumbai.

The plane VT-ANB flew to Ahmedabad from Delhi."

More in the link

 

Air India said there was only one survivor from its plane that crashed in Ahmedabad, confirming the death of 241 passengers and crew onboard. The overall death toll from the crash is much higher, with dozens killed on the ground when the plane rammed into the facilities of a medical college and burst into flames, officials said
 
Imagine being that sole survivor of a plane crash which killed the other 240+ people on board.

I feel for him - some might see him as the lucky one but imagine having to carry that survivors guilt with you for the rest of your days? I don’t think I could carry that weight.

I hope the media in the coming days & weeks leave him alone and let him have time to try and heal a little before getting him to speak on TV shows etc.
 
From my country's MSM

" 'They were on the verge of collapse':

Disaster puts Air India to the test.


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Air India, after years of problems,
has begun to turn around.

It is benefiting from the rapid growth of the Indian economy.

Just three months ago,
its CEO admitted that before the radical transformation began,
Air India was 'on the verge of collapse'.
The Boeing 787 Dreamliner crash is putting it to the test.

'Air India is a very strong brand today.
In recent years, under state management,
it had major problems with the quality of passenger service and fleet modernization.


However,
after privatization,
it is currently undergoing rapid restructuring, related to, among other things, fleet replacement'
an aviation market expert from ch-aviation says.

What planes does Air India fly?

Average age is less than 10 years.

According to ch-aviation data
Air India's fleet consisted of 197 aircraft until the disaster,
15 of which were grounded due to inspections or defects.

The average age of Air India aircraft is 9.7 years.
The youngest are Airbus A350s
(less than two years old)
and A321s (2-3 years old).

Air India is undergoing a rebranding.

The characteristic red ornaments around each window are disappearing from the fuselages of the planes.

How the Indian carrier wants to present itself to the world in the future can be seen in the example of the latest in the fleet of Airbus A350s.

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'Taking advantage of the very rapid growth of the Indian market,
which is probably the most promising in the aviation industry,
it has ambitious plans.
Its shareholder is Singapore Airlines,
considered one of the best in the world',
adds the expert."

More in the link

 
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I know that statistically speaking, air travel is extremely safe. Yet... it seems like there have been more crashes in recent years. And also, those statistics don't mean anything when you or a loved one is on a plane that goes down.
It's been an odd year for aviation incidents. But there's been so many in the US, I'm not sure if the rest of the world has had the same very bad year?

It really has seemed to get a lot safer over the years compared to the 80s or so. As the aviation incident channels I follow on YT are always pointing out, when there is an incident there's been learning from it to mostly prevent the same incidents happening more than once or twice, plus there's better instruments on the plane and ground, much better training in most airlines in the cockpit so that the pilots work well together.
 

''Indian authorities turn to DNA testing to identify burned bodies​

Vidhi Chaudhary, a top state police officer in the northwestern city of Ahmedabad, said medical students who were in a college hostel when the plane hit the building are among the dead.

“Most of the bodies have been charred beyond recognition,” she said.

Dhananjay Dwivedi, a civil official in Gujarat, told reporters that DNA testing arrangements were being made.''
 
My thoughts and prayers are with all the victims of the Air India crash the flight crew, cabin crew, all the passengers on board, all the victims who died on the ground, the man who was a passenger and miraculously survived the crash but has tragically lost his brother who was also on the flight, all the victims loved ones and everyone who is involved in finding the remains in the wreckage which must be a very distressing task.

May all the victims who tragically lost their lives Rest In Peace.
 
From my country's MSM

"Airplane crash in India.

Media:

Black box found.


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Authorities have found one of the two black boxes from the Boeing 787 Dreamliner
that crashed in Ahmedabad, India,
reports the Hindustan Times.


The box was reportedly located at the rear of the aircraft.

The device was transferred to the General Directorate of Civil Aviation, whose
experts will examine the records.
The search for the second black box is still ongoing.

At the same time,
the Indian government decided to set up a commission to conduct a detailed investigation of the disaster."

 
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More from Polish MSM

"Expert Analyzes Air India Crash Footage:

'No Flaps Extended'


'Before the crash,
the plane was clearly flying relatively slowly,
its landing gear was extended,
but its flaps were not,
which means it had very little lift,
and I have the impression that it also lacked power',
said the expert, based on available recordings from the crash.

He pointed out that it is very rare for power to drop in both engines due to technical problems.

Heavy plane, short runway

The aviation expert noted another detail.

Agency reports state that the plane took off from the R4 route.

'I don't know if that was the right runway to perform this flight operation,
because the plane was relatively heavy,
it had a take-off weight of 195 tons,
including 50 tons of fuel.
This explains the large explosion after the crash',
he said.

He explained that the runway was only 1,900 meters long,
and from a quick estimate,
the plane had 20 tons of cargo too much for that length of runway.

He cautioned that this was not a professionally conducted, precise calculation."

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