Flight to London Gatwick crashes at airport in India .June 12 th 2025

[indicolite22]

The sole survivor was reportedly seated in the seat 11A (window seat in the exit row on the left, when looking forward), while his brother was in 11J (window seat on the opposite side). When the main part of the plane crash landed on the ground to the right of a building, the building would have been on the survivor's side. How could he have walked out of the door and away from the scene if the was between the plane and the building?

Crash survivor reveals how he 'just walked out' of burning plane

British national, Viswash Kumar Ramesh, 40, who is being treated at the Civil Hospital in Ahmedabad, has spoken of the moment he escaped from the burning plane.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[indicolite22]

A prominent ex-NTSB investigator gives his take on the Air India crash:

He was the lead investigator for the United Sioux City airport crash where close to two thirds of the passengers survived the crash landing.

 

[Dotta]

From my country's MSM

"Planes to be inspected. ​

Major mobilization after the disaster in India.​

India will conduct additional checks on all Boeing 787s owned by airlines registered in the country,
a decision made in the wake of Thursday's crash of a Boeing 787 in Ahmedabad.

The owner of Air India announced the immediate payment of the initial part of the compensation to the families of the victims.

The identification of the victims of the tragedy is ongoing,
which must be carried out using DNA comparison."

Samoloty do kontroli. Wielka mobilizacja po katastrofie w Indiach

To nie tylko jedna z największych katastrof lotniczych ostatnich dziesięcioleci, ale też pierwszy taki wypadek z udziałem Dreamlinera. Trwa wyjaśnianie przyczyn czwartkowej tragedii z udziałem...

www.tvp.info

More:

"India's civil aviation regulator has ordered an inspection of all Boeing 787s used by local carriers
following the Air India crash,
with the aviation minister saying authorities were investigating all possible causes.

Already on Friday,
authorities ordered Air India to conduct additional checks of its Boeing 787 Dreamliners equipped with GEnx engines,
including assessing some parameters critical for the aircraft's takeoff."

Wszystkie Dreamlinery w Indiach do inspekcji. Jest decyzja władz po katastrofie

Wszystkie samoloty Boeing 787 Dreamliner wykorzystywane przez linie lotnicze z Indii mają przejść dodatkową inspekcję. To konsekwencje czwartkowej katastrofy Air India, w której zginęło 241 z 242 osób na...

www.money.pl

 

[Charlot123]

I have a question.
Fuel contamination was listed among potential reason for the accident,

I assume that the fuel burned out totally.
Would they be able to rule out this factor, or is it impossible?

 

[Dotta]

"Crash in India. ​

There is a recording of the pilot's last words. ​

It reveals a dramatic fight.​

According to the black box recording,
the last words from the cockpit were:

'Thrust not achieved... falling...
Mayday! Mayday! Mayday!'."



RIP

Katastrofa w Indiach. Jest nagranie z ostatnimi słowami pilota. Ujawnia dramatyczną walkę

Tragedia lotnicza w Indiach wstrząsnęła całym światem. Boeing 787 Dreamliner linii Air India runął tuż po starcie z lotniska w Ahmedabadzie, zabijając co najmniej 270 osób. Ostatnie słowa pilota uj...

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[indicolite22]

It seems that the source for the mayday info wasn't the black box, but the ATC (air traffic control) recording. The black box (CVR) might reveal more than that, once it's read.

The tragic crash of Air India Flight 171 on Thursday is being closely examined for possible thrust failure during take-off, after the flight crew’s chilling final communication with air traffic control.

The Ahmedabad police confirmed that this was the last message received from the cockpit before the aircraft lost contact.

'Mayday! Mayday! Thrust not achieved': What Air India pilot's last words before tragic crash possibly mean

Air India Flight 171 tragically crashed in Ahmedabad, with initial investigations focusing on a potential thrust failure during take-off. The pilot's distress call indicated 'thrust not achieved' moments before the crash. Investigators are analyzing the black box data to determine the cause...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

 

[thinker47]

The sole survivor was reportedly seated in the seat 11A (window seat in the exit row on the left, when looking forward), while his brother was in 11J (window seat on the opposite side). When the main part of the plane crash landed on the ground to the right of a building, the building would have been on the survivor's side. How could he have walked out of the door and away from the scene if the was between the plane and the building?

Crash survivor reveals how he 'just walked out' of burning plane

British national, Viswash Kumar Ramesh, 40, who is being treated at the Civil Hospital in Ahmedabad, has spoken of the moment he escaped from the burning plane.

www.dailymail.co.uk

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I suppose I can see your point but... there's an aircraft which suffered a catastrophic failure of some sort and crashed into a building... and a man who has some injuries, who was on the aircraft, in seat 11a by the exit, who is most definitely alive... Which fact are you actually doubting? Do you think he's an impostor?

 

[indicolite22]

I suppose I can see your point but... there's an aircraft which suffered a catastrophic failure of some sort and crashed into a building... and a man who has some injuries, who was on the aircraft, in seat 11a by the exit, who is most definitely alive... Which fact are you actually doubting? Do you think he's an impostor?

Not at all. I'm more interested in the direction of his escape/exit. But he did make an earlier statement (below) after which I assumed that his brother was on the side that hit the building.

ETA: This was the part that was/is confusing to me. Survivor's statement (BBM):

“The side of the plane I was in landed on the ground, and I could see that there was space outside the aircraft, so when my door broke, I tried to escape through it and I did,” Ramesh said.

“The opposite side of the aircraft was blocked by the building wall so nobody could have come out of there,” he added.

‘I realised I was alive’: Sole survivor of Air India crash recounts tragedy

Viswashkumar Ramesh, the only survivor of the Boeing 787 plane crash, said he witnessed other passengers die.

www.aljazeera.com

I thought he was the one closer to the building wall since he was seated on the left side of the plane.
I've seen a picture of his boarding pass - it was for seat 11A.

Are some aeroplane seats safer than others?

The most hated seat on a Boeing plane appears to have been the luckiest seat on board the ill-fated Air India flight

www.standard.co.uk

 

[indicolite22]

Not all experts agree that 11A was a good seat to be in per se:

CNN safety analyst and former US Federal Aviation Administration safety inspector David Soucie expressed surprise that someone seated at that part of the plane would survive such a crash.

That seat is “right where the spar of the wing would go under and it would be a solid place for the aircraft to hit the ground, but as far as survivability above it, that is incredibly surprising,” he told CNN.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/12/india/air-india-crash-survivor-vishwash-kumar-ramesh-intl-latam

 

[Bounceycat]

Not all experts agree that 11A was a good seat to be in per se:

CNN safety analyst and former US Federal Aviation Administration safety inspector David Soucie expressed surprise that someone seated at that part of the plane would survive such a crash.

That seat is “right where the spar of the wing would go under and it would be a solid place for the aircraft to hit the ground, but as far as survivability above it, that is incredibly surprising,” he told CNN.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/12/india/air-india-crash-survivor-vishwash-kumar-ramesh-intl-latam

I'm certainly no expert, but the plane was heavy with fuel and if he was over a wing, that puts him very close to it. I can't even wrap my head around how he survived that fireball.

 

[indicolite22]

While investigations are still under way to answer exactly why the plane went down in the first place, aviation analyst Guy Leitch speculated on GB News that seat 11A was thrown clear, saving Ramesh from more serious injuries.

The article also claims that there is no window in (the exit) row 11:

Are some aeroplane seats safer than others?

The most hated seat on a Boeing plane appears to have been the luckiest seat on board the ill-fated Air India flight

www.standard.co.uk

 

[Dotta]

"Seat 11A
is often discouraged, among others, for Ryanair and Boeing 737-800 customers.

What it looks like on the plane is even shown in photos.

They show that we are sitting against the wall, and the window is not next to the seat, but above the emergency door.

However,
this is a positive fact.

In this case,
sitting close to the exit was supposed to be crucial.

The man on the Air India plane claimed that he jumped just before impact.

The technical details of the crash are not known,
but the fact that seat 11A was the safest may depend on many factors.

The angle of impact,
the type of failure,
and even the passenger's seating position are all decisive."

Pasażera w Indiach uratowało miejsce 11A. Które są najbezpieczniejsze? – Podróże Wprost

podroze-wprost-pl.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[Bounceycat]

The man on the Air India plane claimed that he jumped just before impact.

What?!

 

[indicolite22]

I appears that he was still buckled in:

“For some time, I thought I was also going to die. But when I opened my eyes, I realised I was alive and I tried to unbuckle myself from the seat and escape from where I could,” he said.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/12/india/air-india-crash-survivor-vishwash-kumar-ramesh-intl-latam

IIRC, in one interview they asked him if he jumped out through the emergency exit, to which he responded that since he was on the ground, he simply walked out.

Speaking to The Hindu, Ramesh clarified that he hadn't needed to jump out of the plane: "I just walked out."

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/13/nx-s1-5432566/india-plane-crash-survivor

 

[Spectrix]

The most notable part of the eyewitness video is the sound. Notice it sounds like a single engine propeller plane going past? That is the Ram Air Turbine. It's a generator with a variable vain propellor making that distinctive sound.

The RAT is deployed automatically in the event of dual engine failure or left/right power bus failure.

It's unfortunate that so many people immediately jump to blaming the pilots, particularly when obvious clues like sound can tell us so much about an accident.

Dual engine failure is exceedingly rare, but could be possible in the event of a catastrophic electrical failure or fuel contamination.

Make sure you toggle the sound on:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1933089931347345596

 

[Spectrix]

I'm certainly no expert, but the plane was heavy with fuel and if he was over a wing, that puts him very close to it. I can't even wrap my head around how he survived that fireball.

I can't either. The fuel tanks are in the wings
His statement was harrowing:

"After the plane took-off within a minute, it felt like the plane came to a standstill (in air) for 5-10 seconds. Then the Green and White (cabin) lights turned on in the Flight. I could feel engine thrust increasing to go up. But the plane crashed into the building."

"The side of the plane I was in landed on the ground floor of the Hostel. I don't know other parts of the plane but where I landed it was on the ground. I could see open space outside the aircraft. So, when my door broke, I tried to escape through a little space, and I did. On the opposite side of the plane was building wall. I don't know how I survived, right Infront of my eyes, two air-hostess were burned to death."

 

[indicolite22]

On a popular yt channel, hosted by a pilot, a person who maintains 787s for a living listed 7 sets of circumstances that would cause the RAT to deploy.

 

[MollyHarps]

I can't either. The fuel tanks are in the wings
His statement was harrowing:

"After the plane took-off within a minute, it felt like the plane came to a standstill (in air) for 5-10 seconds. Then the Green and White (cabin) lights turned on in the Flight. I could feel engine thrust increasing to go up. But the plane crashed into the building."

"The side of the plane I was in landed on the ground floor of the Hostel. I don't know other parts of the plane but where I landed it was on the ground. I could see open space outside the aircraft. So, when my door broke, I tried to escape through a little space, and I did. On the opposite side of the plane was building wall. I don't know how I survived, right Infront of my eyes, two air-hostess were burned to death."

I think the survivor and the media need to be careful with what they report - I don’t think the air hostesses family need it in public domain that their family members burned to death.

 

[Spectrix]

I think the survivor and the media need to be careful with what they report. I don’t think the air hostesses family need it in public domain that their family members burned to death.

With respect, that poor survivor was just recounting what happened to him from his hospital bed.
That plane was 30 seconds into it's journey and had a full load of jet fuel. It ignited into a giant fireball. The sad reality is that many of those passengers burnt to death.

 

[Dotta]

"Wait for bodies deepens pain of families after Air India crash.​

Distraught relatives wait outside the hospital mortuary in Ahmedabad

At the hospital,
doctors are racing to complete the DNA sampling of the victims
so that they can start returning bodies to their families.

'There is no scope for mistakes here -
we have to ensure that every family receives the right body',
said HP Sanghvi, the director of Directorate of Forensic Sciences in Gandhinagar city.

'But DNA identification is a time-consuming process.
Besides, given the scale of the disaster, there is also a possibility that the DNA of several passengers was damaged due to the extremely high temperature of the blast'.

The wait has been beyond agonising for the families.

'We are in no condition to say anything.
Words fail us right now',
said a woman who was waiting with three members of her family outside the autopsy room."

Wait for bodies deepens pain of families after Air India crash - BBC News

Officials said on Saturday that 11 victims had been identified so far based on their DNA samples.

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