Florida Bar Allegedly Prepares Case against Baez

[Steely Dan]

Sorry, but that was about page 2, RR. And thought I was pretty obvious in "hint" afterwards. I guess it seemed overly dramatic, when attempting "of course" you know. I go to many other places, especially those that are local Orlando hoping for a spill via friends or associates.

We are so earnestly wanting something to happen. By now if you've read through, several ethical violations and complainants are possible.

Doc dump tomorrow (JB got 300 pp this afternoon) or Thurs.

:woohoo:

 

[cyberborg]

So if the complaint ends in a formal reprimand for JB can he still continue on this case?

I had thought that JB has 9 lives so this'd only be the 2nd or 3rd he has spent.

I am greatly concerned about his representation though, since his financial backer is likely directing him rather than his need to represent his client to the best of his 'ability' and, it does seem that this is being played out as a media story. Definitely seems like a conflict that if JB doesn't get disbarred he is on a win-win.

 

[Psmith]

HAHAHAHA This is the case I was trying to think of. OMG that is so hilarious.

I know! But is that really all? If I were KC, I would be mad at him. Hugs are not "crocks." *fist shake, mean eyes, tooth baring*

Dang, maybe I will make a complaint alleging fiscal impropriety.

In the meantime, Blink34 is on it.....in another world.

TY everybody, excellent convo.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

HAHAHAHA This is the case I was trying to think of. OMG that is so hilarious.

LOL Been on this case a LOT longer than you thought, huh, JBean?! Hahahaha~ :blowkiss:

 

[RR0004]

Sorry, but that was about page 2, RR. And thought I was pretty obvious in "hint" afterwards. I guess it seemed overly dramatic, when attempting "of course" you know. I go to many other places, especially those that are local Orlando hoping for a spill via friends or associates.

We are so earnestly wanting something to happen. By now if you've read through, several ethical violations and complainants are possible.

Doc dump tomorrow (JB got 300 pp this afternoon) or Thurs.

Hey, just proof that I do read each and every post!

Going down the line, I did see it all layed out. Just wondered why it may have been a secret...like we're not supposed to be talking about it? Ya never know!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

That could have been anyone of us on here.

LOL Wasn't me!!

ETA: I could hug n kiss the person who DID do it tho!! (SMOOCH!!!)

 

[RR0004]

LOL Wasn't me!!

ETA: I could hug n kiss the person who DID do it tho!! (SMOOCH!!!)

Wonder if it could be somebody who was major league poed at GR and his relationship with JB. Someone in the media could most definitely know more about what's happening behind the scenes.

 

[Psmith]

Hey, just proof that I do read each and every post!

Going down the line, I did see it all layed out. Just wondered why it may have been a secret...like we're not supposed to be talking about it? Ya never know!

Lol! :blowkiss:

Sputter! It's not a secret, it's a "crock."

 

[JustanotherJane]

Wonder if it could be somebody who was major league poed at GR and his relationship with JB. Someone in the media could most definitely know more about what's happening behind the scenes.

I remember reading about the poster who said she'd done it, and then they put her on the news. (can't remember if she was interviewed by phone or not). Sorry, vague and no link but it was at SM's.

 

[ThoughtElf]

I do recall a blogger saying that he or she would indeed write the Bar about hugging (inappropriate behavior).

So...what we do know is jail personnel warned attorney and client off each other. I assume it has stopped.

Bar going to look into touching? Not likely. Bar is interested in Ethics, big E.

So what is the Bar looking into NOW?

Artificial delays in releasing Caylee's remains to the A's? Is there anything in an attorney's little handbook of ethics that could be explored here?

 

[JBean]

LOL Been on this case a LOT longer than you thought, huh, JBean?! Hahahaha~ :blowkiss:

EXACTLY RIGHT. I was thinking it was an old case. Oh I am still laughing.

 

[JBean]

Artificial delays in releasing Caylee's remains to the A's? Is there anything in an attorney's little handbook of ethics that could be explored here?

HI Spud. Gosh my friends mother died July 15th and we laid her to rest in October. I have been afraid to mention this for fear of getting stoned to death.

 

[cyberborg]

Jose Baez declining an on-camera interview, in and of itself is newsworthy!
Something's up if he wouldn't go on camera.

:clap::clap::clap:

 

[Lovejac]

He never left and yes...he is on "active" duty again. :bang:

Well, I am definitely more glad that YOU are back then him!!

I hope you got yourself a brand new computer with lots of RAM and a cup holder......I smell a doc dump on the way!!!!:woohoo:

 

[impatientredhead]

From what I read in the consumer pamphlet, the complainant's identity is treated with confidentiality. But, with this case, who knows?
http://www.floridabar.org/tfb/TFBCo...c5b7d247a0c9c45a85256b2f006c6186?OpenDocument

Because information provided will become public and is subject to disclosure to the lawyer about whom you inquire, your address and telephone number cannot be withheld.

At that point, the matter becomes public information and a part of the file defined as the public record that is available to anyone who wishes to see it.

They treat pending complaints with confidentiality, ie they won't comment or discuss them with anyone not directly involved.

 

[cyberborg]

Correct, if this stays a non-capital case, she of course has the constitutional right of appeal, but it would not be automatic.

There are 2 avenues for investigating JB, both are apparently being pursued, so I am guessing somebody means business. Personally, I think this is little more than a territory war..

CA is very much about control. CA is shut out. CA has more confidence in BC than JB. CA is concerned that JB is selling out Caylee for profit ($$$$). CA is painfully aware everyone now knows Caylee is dead, so her only other daughter KC is in dire jeopardy. CA is concerned that JB is acting in his own best interests. CA has no access to KC. CA has no control over JB. KC is controlling JB. JB is selling out on KC. To CA, BC can save KC while JB is using KC and Caylee ($$$$$).

You know how CA is with people profitting from Caylee and ... in JB's hands KC is at risk as well. I would imagine that CA is doing everything in her power to take back control and BC has already demonstrated a far greater capacity to subtlely save KC. JB is a rough diamond that's fake. CA wants to usurp JB and insert BC. IMHO.

 

[ThoughtElf]

HI Spud. Gosh my friends mother died July 15th and we laid her to rest in October. I have been afraid to mention this for fear of getting stoned to death.

I'm really sorry for your Friend. That has to be difficult to be unable to speak openly about her experience.

I respect that if it is the family's wishes, or for reasons within their control, and I an not comparing my question in any way to your Friend's situation.

I am just wondering if a new complaint might be surfacing against JB for something like an artificial delay? If I were the A's, I'd be having a lot of trouble with this right now. And even though I am sure that I am sure BC is trying to kept them apprised of all events/reasons, perhaps someone else in the family is frustrated, listening to rumours and filed a complaint that has nothing to do with money?

Just kicking this ball around. Thoughts?

 

[LancelotLink]

Because information provided will become public and is subject to disclosure to the lawyer about whom you inquire, your address and telephone number cannot be withheld.

At that point, the matter becomes public information and a part of the file defined as the public record that is available to anyone who wishes to see it.

They treat pending complaints with confidentiality, ie they won't comment or discuss them with anyone not directly involved.

Thank you!!

 

[impatientredhead]

I'm reading all kinds of case law and from my understanding the death penalty and a first degree murder conviction with no parole grants the felon an automatic appeal.

In Florida, the appeal process goes straight to the Florida Supreme Court

I have found nothing else that disputes it

http://www.flsenate.gov/STATUTES/in..._Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0921/Sec141.HTM

That is the statute that grants an automatic appeal to death penalty convictions in Florida. The statute mentioned in the text that is being interpreted to mean life without the possibility of parole gets an automatic appeal (it does not) is statute 924.06 Appeal by defendant.

The state, not the constitution, has stated you have the right to file an appeal and for it to be considered. It does not say that you will automatically get a new trial. All it is granted is the right to be heard and for a determination to be made of whether you have a valid reason for a new trial.

Unlike countries where you get one trial, get locked up and there is nothing you can do about it even if you were convicted unfairly.

 

[nancy botwin]

I'm really sorry for your Friend. That has to be difficult to be unable to speak openly about her experience.

I respect that if it is the family's wishes, or for reasons within their control, and I an not comparing my question in any way to your Friend's situation.

I am just wondering if a new complaint might be surfacing against JB for something like an artificial delay? If I were the A's, I'd be having a lot of trouble with this right now. And even though I am sure that I am sure BC is trying to kept them apprised of all events/reasons, perhaps someone else in the family is frustrated, listening to rumours and filed a complaint that has nothing to do with money?

Just kicking this ball around. Thoughts?

I think it's possible that a complaint was filed in re: the limbo status of Caylee's remains. State's Rules of Professional Conduct/Responsibility generally require attorneys to avoid the "appearance of impropriety" and to avoid actions which cast an unfavorable light on the legal profession. I do think the remains are being retained pending toxicology results, but Baez has not made any public statement to assuage public distress about her delayed funeral. Anyone, including the A's, could have made a complaint about this issue.

I also think a complaint could have been made re: the conduct of Baez's investigators-- the infamous Dominic Casey tape reflects VERY poorly on the defense's legal investigation team, as did the tape's subsequent release via national media outlets. Baez could be subject to discipline if he did not take reasonable steps to keep his investigators' work confidential and/or directed his investigators to perpetrate fraudulent or criminal acts.
The alleged de-facto contingency fee payment scheme for the defense team could also have prompted a complaint.
etc. etc.

I would imagine that multiple complaints have been filed against Baez-- this case is very high profile and there's some odd stuff happening around every corner, it seems.

I think the WESH article is sensationalizing the issue, however, and IMO the FL Bar is simply investigating the allegations against Baez. A State Bar is duty-bound to investigate all viable complaints raised against its members.
Filing a formal complaint against an attorney is also, IMO, tantamount to calling Professional 911-- it's a very serious thing.
All complaints are investigated, and not all investigations will lead to formal hearings or inquests.
Here's some data on FL Bar disciplinary actions, for those interested. Unfortunately, the data does not indicate how many complaints were filed in a given year.
Here are the various sanctions an attorney faces if s/he is subject to discipline.
Here are the rules regulating the practice of law in FL. :woohoo: