Florida Bar Allegedly Prepares Case against Baez

[whiteangora]

You should send this to them so they can correct their inaccurate reporting.

Sending them the correct info would fall on deaf ears (imo).
I really think JB and WESH have some sort of 'understanding'.

 

[cyberborg]

Sending them the correct info would fall on deaf ears (imo).
I really think JB and WESH have some sort of 'understanding'.

Yes ... that's how you get the exclusives, scoops and, previews of the last minute filed motions.

Like JVM on HLN and GR on Fox ... there are those channels who act as a safe platform for the Defense.

 

[shotgun09]

Anyone wondering if JB is blurring the lines between the propaganda BS he tells the Media on TV and what he tells the Court? It seems that because the Media is there at Court that he is playing to the Media ... forgetting he is actually an Officer of the Court, presenting to the Judge and, it is all on official record in a legal proceeding.

Doh!!

ITA! Baez has been blowing smoke rings in court, for the media's enjoyment. The recently departed members of the defense team have all been sickened by his smoke screen, and booked the he#@ out of Dodge. He's not worked on this case, he has 'attempted' to polish up his media portfolio.:loser:

 

[sumbunny]

I'm shocked JVM or Nancy Grace haven't covered more about the latest "bombshells" this week.

I'd think the parallel investigation, and Florida Bar investigation into Casey's lead attorney falls short of newsworthy for them? ~shrugs~

 

[TiaM]

Anyone wondering if JB is blurring the lines between the propaganda BS he tells the Media on TV and what he tells the Court? It seems that because the Media is there at Court that he is playing to the Media ... forgetting he is actually an Officer of the Court, presenting to the Judge and, it is all on official record in a legal proceeding.

Doh!!

No, I simply believe that he is a pizz poor excuse for a competent defense attorney, who consistantly takes the low road, has no respect for authority, the law or the Court, and out-and-out lies to try to clear his murderous client.

All JMHO, of course.

 

[Soju]

Anyone wondering if JB is blurring the lines between the propaganda BS he tells the Media on TV and what he tells the Court? It seems that because the Media is there at Court that he is playing to the Media ... forgetting he is actually an Officer of the Court, presenting to the Judge and, it is all on official record in a legal proceeding.

Doh!!

ITA Cyberborg! I think that's exactly what it is. We know for sure how he plays to the media in court, even when chastising them. Remember that time he jumped up and interrupted everything, saying how the camera was zooming in on casey as she passed a note. (it was clearly a planned event, followed shortly thereafter by the Motion to Prohibit Zooming In or something).

However, I wonder if he does it because of some (unwarranted) sense of superiority, entitlement and arrogance, or if he really doesn't think it's that big a deal (aka stupidity).

 

[ThinkTank]

WFTV just reported on the 5:00 news that the complaint against JB has to do with misrepresentations to the court. They couldn't confirm who filed it but it was not Brad Conway... wonder if the Judge did. No link on WFTV to that report yet.

Whoever filed the newest complaint most likely will not be known until the specific case is closed (only way to know when it is closed, is to keep asking the Bar - investigations can take several months to complete).

http://www.floridabar.org/tfb/TFBCo...penDocument#WHAT IF I DECIDE TO MAKE AN INQUI

A WORD ABOUT CONFIDENTIALITY AND IMMUNITY
The rules of the Supreme Court of Florida require the Bar (staff, investigators, and grievance committee members) to treat inquiries and complaints pending with Bar counsel and grievance committees as confidential matters. You, the lawyer who is subject of the inquiry or complaint, witnesses and other third parties are not required to treat those inquiries and complaints as confidential matters. However, disclosure of the existence of an inquiry or complaint and the contents thereof outside of the disciplinary system may provide a basis for legal action.

If however, you limit your inquiry and communication about it to Bar staff, investigators and grievance committee members; you should not be successfully sued. While, generally, you cannot be successfully sued if you do not act in bad faith or with malice, we emphasize successfully. The Bar cannot guarantee that the lawyer will not attempt to bring legal action against you.

While you have the right to talk to anyone you want about your Bar inquiry/complaint, you should consider not talking to anyone other than Bar staff, investigators, and grievance committee members, or your new lawyer, until the case is closed or until the matter is decided by a grievance committee and further proceedings are undertaken. At that point, the matter becomes public information and a part of the file defined as the public record that is available to anyone who wishes to see it.

 

[The World According]

http://www.wesh.com/r/26715316/detail.html
Casey Attorney Jose Baez Under Investigation
Bar Case Is Lawyer's Second In Three Years

OMG!!! WESH pro-defense slant much???

"Second in three years" ?? really???!!

The tally so far ..... (that we/the public know about)

BAR COMPLAINTS

1 - about his history posted on his website (false advertising) Sept 2008 - May 2009
ordered to go through diversion - ad classes - not serious reprimand
2 - Dominic Casey - did not get paid, told not to call LE if found Caylee - filed April 2009 - FL Bar said he broke no rules about pmt Sept 2009
3 - Judge Strickland - passed on a complaint about Baez about Dominic allegations
WFTV article says May 2009
4 - Shannon Stoy - how defense being paid - Bar said he broke no rules Sept 2009
filed complaint in Feb - 7 months to complete complaint
5 - Conway or Anthonys? - how defense is funded [KC wrote this in letter to Inmate]
6 - possible - Tony Padilla filed complaint???? - fake contract? Aug 2009
7 - Diane Fanning book says complaint about Todd Black making derogatory comments about Prosecutors (Jan 2009) - also says complaint by Judge about DC not call LE if found Caylee - WFTV article says same thing about derogatory comments
8 - Jan 2009 - somebody read news about Baez touching Inmate - filed complaint

9 - newest one just filed - open and ongoing .... February 2011

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581670/detail.html
Think Tank , thank you so much you always have the facts at the ready. Someone once asked wont anyone be standing up for Caylee in the trial. Yes, indeed they will.....and you, my friend are one of them. Good , good job keeping all the facts straight. Any law firm would be lucky to have you! I am sure glad we do! :seeya:

 

[Numbers]

ITA Cyberborg! I think that's exactly what it is. We know for sure how he plays to the media in court, even when chastising them. Remember that time he jumped up and interrupted everything, saying how the camera was zooming in on casey as she passed a note. (it was clearly a planned event, followed shortly thereafter by the Motion to Prohibit Zooming In or something).

However, I wonder if he does it because of some (unwarranted) sense of superiority, entitlement and arrogance, or if he really doesn't think it's that big a deal (aka stupidity).

I'll take what's behind Door #3.

Oh, look! Stupidity.

 

[Tulessa]

I'm shocked JVM or Nancy Grace haven't covered more about the latest "bombshells" this week.

I'd think the parallel investigation, and Florida Bar investigation into Casey's lead attorney falls short of newsworthy for them? ~shrugs~

Nancy G. said she has taken it as far as she can, until trial. Then she will resume coverage on it. That was told to a caller, live on her show, but don't ask me which episode, can't recall.:waitasec:

 

[Kentjbkent]

Whoever filed the newest complaint most likely will not be known until the specific case is closed (only way to know when it is closed, is to keep asking the Bar - investigations can take several months to complete).

http://www.floridabar.org/tfb/TFBCo...penDocument#WHAT IF I DECIDE TO MAKE AN INQUI

A WORD ABOUT CONFIDENTIALITY AND IMMUNITY
The rules of the Supreme Court of Florida require the Bar (staff, investigators, and grievance committee members) to treat inquiries and complaints pending with Bar counsel and grievance committees as confidential matters. You, the lawyer who is subject of the inquiry or complaint, witnesses and other third parties are not required to treat those inquiries and complaints as confidential matters. However, disclosure of the existence of an inquiry or complaint and the contents thereof outside of the disciplinary system may provide a basis for legal action.

If however, you limit your inquiry and communication about it to Bar staff, investigators and grievance committee members; you should not be successfully sued. While, generally, you cannot be successfully sued if you do not act in bad faith or with malice, we emphasize successfully. The Bar cannot guarantee that the lawyer will not attempt to bring legal action against you.

While you have the right to talk to anyone you want about your Bar inquiry/complaint, you should consider not talking to anyone other than Bar staff, investigators, and grievance committee members, or your new lawyer, until the case is closed or until the matter is decided by a grievance committee and further proceedings are undertaken. At that point, the matter becomes public information and a part of the file defined as the public record that is available to anyone who wishes to see it.

And really....isn't any speculation as to who could have filed the complaint futile anyway...as I recall it, a specific blogger even filed a complaint against Baez...it was investigated but deemed unwarranted....?

At this point, it could have been ANYONE....even one of the :crazy: that keep popping up...

 

[ThinkTank]

Yes, she said that in her 5:00 news report. I think anyone who had access to the documents we saw in the doc dump last Friday could have done it.

Anyone..... anywhere .... any time .... can file a Bar complaint ... a person does not have to live in the same State, or be directly involved in the case ... or be an officer of the court .... however, complaints from persons directly affected by the actions reported would probably be taken more seriously by the Florida Bar .....

 

[Intermezzo]

Intermezzo, check out this link if you have a sec--bullstopper parses Baez's statement, and s/he parses it good!

Thanks!

 

[Chiquita71]

Snippet from Bill Sheaffer wftv 9 with Kathi Belich

BS: This is so serious Kathy that it is well possible that Mr. Baez could find himself having his license suspended or even revoked.

KB: It's that serious?

BS: It is that serious. Again, I cannot underscore enough in my mind other than stealing the client's money, there is nothing more serious then allegedly lying to the court and if its proven the Florida Bar is going to take harsh measures against Mr. Baez. I know this because I served as a vice chair on a grievance committee for two years and unless the Bar has become less vigorous in persuing lawyers who misrepresent to the court then it did when I served he's, he's in for a bumpy road and harsh sanctions.
(skip)

It is so serious and lawyers are so careful about representing to a judge that in my career I never on the grievance committee had an occasion to see an allegation. I am aware however of a lawyer who misrepresented facts to a federal judge and was permanently disbarred. So in every instance that I'm aware of where this allegation has been made and proven the lawyer has not been suspended, the lawyer has been disbarred for life.
(skip)

In this particular case it is a material misrepresentation because Mr. Baez is asserting there is evidence that in fact, exonerates his client in the possession of another lawyer. And this other lawyer if he says that is absolutely positively a lie, how much more material of a representation can a lawyer make? It goes to the very heart of his representation of Casey and...(speaking to Kathi)you are right, the zeal in which he represents Casey has become over zealous.
(skip)

It is clouding his good judgement and this is not the first case in which we've seen this occur.
(end)

And my world makes sense again. I know now what it was that bothered me about what JB was up to...I wondered if the court, the judge didn't mind being made a fool of, I guess they do. If I, as a nobody- someone: can see the joke that Jose Baez makes of the system, of the rules, on word of honor, or "in good faith" and it makes me upset...I wondered about the court.

If Brad C says that Jose lied, I am apt to believe Brad C. Brad got caught up in some bad mama jamma. First the Cindy, Baez email thing that had him resign from working for the Anthonys and now this.

How will Jose spin that Brad is out and out calling him a liar? Let's wait and see...

lol.

...js...

 

[logicalgirl]

Snippet from Bill Sheaffer wftv 9 with Kathi Belich

BS: This is so serious Kathy that it is well possible that Mr. Baez could find himself having his license suspended or even revoked.

KB: It's that serious?

BS: It is that serious. Again, I cannot underscore enough in my mind other than stealing the client's money, there is nothing more serious then allegedly lying to the court and if its proven the Florida Bar is going to take harsh measures against Mr. Baez. I know this because I served as a vice char on a grievance committee for two years and unless the Bar has become less vigorous in persuing lawyers who misrepresent to the court then it did when I served he's he's in for a bumpy rode and harsh sanctions.
(skip)

It is so serious and lawyers are so careful about representing to a judge that in my career I never on the grievance committee had an occasion to see an allegation. I am aware however of a lawyer who misrepresented facts to a federal judge and was permanently disbarred. So in every instance that I'm aware of where this allegation has been made and proven the lawyer has not been suspended, the lawyer has been disbarred for life.
(skip)

In this particular case it is a material misrepresentation because Mr. Baez is asserting there is evidence that in fact, exonerates his client in the possession of another lawyer. And this other lawyer if he says that is absolutely positively a lie, how much more material of a representation can a lawyer make? It goes to the very heart of his representation of Casey and...(speaking to Kathi)you are right, the zeal in which he represents Casey has become over zealous.
(skip)

It is clouding his good judgement and this is not the first case in which we've seen this occur.
(end)

Snipped from Chiquita

Wow - I just finished listening to Schaeffer's video report also included with the above article. Brutal.

And he says the complaint did not originate with Brad. Interesting. And that Brad has compromised himself with judges and the legal community by not reporting this - although it isn't illegal to stay silent.

 

[RR0004]

BBM.

Won't they find it impossible to seat a Jury though if they basically conduct a popularity poll on JB?

The Jury should not be distracted by the escapades of the Defense attorney's ... it is one thing to set aside any opinions of ICA and weigh the evidence and testimony against her but ... completely another if you have a 'rogue attorney' who is not on trial but is badly notorious yet representing.

Is that the Defense strategy -- not so much in-effective counsel given the overall team in play but ... a rogue attorney who polarizes folks and harms the defendant's right to a fair trial -- per even the SAO?

Ah...it was kinda said tongue in cheek...but seriously...how can this not affect the case/trial?

 

[ThinkTank]

I believe that even if Conway did file the Bar complaint (like he should have IMO) .... Conway would NEVER admit that in public. He would open himself up to a defamation lawsuit. If the Bar finds that Baez did nothing wrong in this case, then Conway would have smeared his reputation (if he had one), and Baez would be damaged.

Did Kathi B. say that it was definitely not Conway who filed the complaint?
Or did they play word games and say that Conway did not confirm that he filed the complaint?
I think Conway wants the media attention and public attention off of himself, over this new Bar complaint, and rightly so.

 

[RR0004]

I'll take what's behind Door #3.

Oh, look! Stupidity.

ITA...bottom line...this guy is not a good lawyer...period.

 

[ynotdivein]

http://www.wesh.com/r/26715316/detail.html
Casey Attorney Jose Baez Under Investigation
Bar Case Is Lawyer's Second In Three Years

OMG!!! WESH pro-defense slant much???

"Second in three years" ?? really???!!

The tally so far ..... (that we/the public know about)

BAR COMPLAINTS

1 - about his history posted on his website (false advertising) Sept 2008 - May 2009
ordered to go through diversion - ad classes - not serious reprimand
2 - Dominic Casey - did not get paid, told not to call LE if found Caylee - filed April 2009 - FL Bar said he broke no rules about pmt Sept 2009
3 - Judge Strickland - passed on a complaint about Baez about Dominic allegations
WFTV article says May 2009
4 - Shannon Stoy - how defense being paid - Bar said he broke no rules Sept 2009
filed complaint in Feb - 7 months to complete complaint
5 - Conway or Anthonys? - how defense is funded [KC wrote this in letter to Inmate]
6 - possible - Tony Padilla filed complaint???? - fake contract? Aug 2009
7 - Diane Fanning book says complaint about Todd Black making derogatory comments about Prosecutors (Jan 2009) - also says complaint by Judge about DC not call LE if found Caylee - WFTV article says same thing about derogatory comments
8 - Jan 2009 - somebody read news about Baez touching Inmate - filed complaint

9 - newest one just filed - open and ongoing .... February 2011

TT, :loveyou:

 

[RR0004]

I believe that even if Conway did file the Bar complaint (like he should have IMO) .... Conway would NEVER admit that in public. He would open himself up to a defamation lawsuit. If the Bar finds that Baez did nothing wrong in this case, then Conway would have smeared his reputation (if he had one), and Baez would be damaged.

Did Kathi B. say that it was definitely not Conway who filed the complaint?
Or did they play word games and say that Conway did not confirm that he filed the complaint?
I think Conway wants the media attention and public attention off of himself, over this new Bar complaint, and rightly so.

Defamation law suit...not if he had valid grounds dontcha think?
Shouldn't there be some protection built into this system...like the lawyer's version of "whistleblower"?