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Desantis meeting today about reopening...and theme parks discussing...(wish we had those ‘real’ numbers of deaths in this state)

Coronavirus: How Gov. Ron DeSantis will handle reopening the state

Sources tell Channel 9’s Shannon Butler that the theme parks are also working on their own plans on reopening.

Theme parks officials are not only looking at when they should reopen, but how many workers do they need and how many people should they let in at a time, which could depend on what guidelines are still in place by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


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Jacksonville to reopen beaches - with limitations

In addition to limits on activities, beaches will open from 6 a.m. to 11 a.m. each morning and from 5 p.m. to 8 p.m. each evening. They will remain closed during all other time periods. People at the beach will be swimming and surfing at their own risk.

The beaches, including Jacksonville, Neptune and Atlantic, have been closed by executive order since March 20.


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BUF said:
Desantis meeting today about reopening...and theme parks discussing...(wish we had those ‘real’ numbers of deaths in this state)

Coronavirus: How Gov. Ron DeSantis will handle reopening the state

Sources tell Channel 9’s Shannon Butler that the theme parks are also working on their own plans on reopening.

Theme parks officials are not only looking at when they should reopen, but how many workers do they need and how many people should they let in at a time, which could depend on what guidelines are still in place by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


#rampupthetesting
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I listened to the presser yesterday driving home from work - boy, he doesn't seem happy at all about how the SBA money that was supposed to go to "small business" was disbursed. Especially citing law firms who can continue to operate and work remotely - apparently they got a big chunk of the money ? How else would he say this in the presser? I wonder if there is a list of who got the money and how much? I believe in transparency- I hope this is expanded on.
JMO
 
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Publix confirms 2 Orlando employees have tested positive for coronavirus

An employee at the store at 2873 S. Orange Ave. south of downtown and another at 16825 E. Colonial Drive east of Orlando near Bithlo have tested positive for the virus, spokeswoman Maria Brous said.
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The Lakeland-based company said it is granting paid leave for 14 days for employees who test positive for the virus. It is also notifying and giving paid leave for up to 14 days for workers who have been “in close contact” with an associate who tests positive.


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This is Santa Clara, CA....could be anywhere though...

Antibody research indicates coronavirus may be far more widespread than known

Based on the initial data, researchers estimate that the range of people who may have had the virus to be between 48,000 and 81,000 in the county of 2 million -- as opposed to the approximately 1,000 in the county's official tally at the time the samples were taken.

“Our findings suggest that there is somewhere between 50- and 80-fold more infections in our county than what’s known by the number of cases than are reported by our department of public health," Dr. Eran Bendavid, associate professor of medicine at Stanford University who led the study, said in an interview with ABC News' Diane Sawyer.
 
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BUF said:
This is Santa Clara, CA....could be anywhere though...

Antibody research indicates coronavirus may be far more widespread than known

Based on the initial data, researchers estimate that the range of people who may have had the virus to be between 48,000 and 81,000 in the county of 2 million -- as opposed to the approximately 1,000 in the county's official tally at the time the samples were taken.

“Our findings suggest that there is somewhere between 50- and 80-fold more infections in our county than what’s known by the number of cases than are reported by our department of public health," Dr. Eran Bendavid, associate professor of medicine at Stanford University who led the study, said in an interview with ABC News' Diane Sawyer.
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Even though this research is reported by Stanford, their methods and their test methods are really not good and they should have devised a much better survery.

They used volunteers from an ad, so they don't have an unbiased population and haven't reported whether they included all ages, all sexes, all ethnic groups. If it was people responding to an ad, it's far more likely to have educated, mobile adults, and underrepresenting children, older people in nursing homes, non-English speakers, etc.

The fingerstick test method is very much flawed and does not report enough specific information to draw the conclusions they came to, IMHO. It's not a quantitiative test, so they have no idea what the antibody titers were. There is no way to look at what the "negative" results titers were. And they don't disclose whether this test is specific only to SARS-Cov-2 or just has pan-sensitivity to all the corona viruses. They also don't comment on the false negative and false positive rates of the test, which are critical to determine the validity of the results.

I'm looking for a better designed and validated study to be reported.
 
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BUF said:
Desantis meeting today about reopening...and theme parks discussing...(wish we had those ‘real’ numbers of deaths in this state)

Coronavirus: How Gov. Ron DeSantis will handle reopening the state

Sources tell Channel 9’s Shannon Butler that the theme parks are also working on their own plans on reopening.

Theme parks officials are not only looking at when they should reopen, but how many workers do they need and how many people should they let in at a time, which could depend on what guidelines are still in place by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


#rampupthetesting
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I can’t imagine going to Disney any time soon- even if they limit admission numbers. Can you imagine social distancing while waiting in line for Splash Mountain- every 6 feet, every 3rd row open & the rest closed off? Grabbing disinfectant wipes as you enter the rides, like grabbing a cart at Walmart? And sitting one family per log/car, every other log open? Suuuuure. No discount could get me there until a vaccine comes out. Just say’n. Jmo
 
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JudgeJoe said:
I can’t imagine going to Disney any time soon- even if they limit admission numbers. Can you imagine social distancing while waiting in line for Splash Mountain- every 6 feet, every 3rd row open & the rest closed off? Grabbing disinfectant wipes as you enter the rides, like grabbing a cart at Walmart? And sitting one family per log/car, every other log open? Suuuuure. No discount could get me there until a vaccine comes out. Just say’n. Jmo
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I really don’t see them opening anytime soon...they have an incredible liability in this wholesome family atmosphere...but as always, I could be wrong...and they employ a tremendous amount of people who have now been furloughed.

How crowded will Disney World, Universal be after coronavirus pandemic subsides?

The trick they face is balancing their core mission to entertain with reassuring an understandably nervous public. They have to simultaneously balance protecting that public, their employees, their public image and their bottom line. All four are crucial. If an outbreak were traced to a theme park, the public fallout would be immense.
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The liability would be incredible if Disney did not make changes. Still, planning to reopen -- and how quickly -- are still tabletop exercises right now.
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Late Thursday, Universal announced it won’t reopen until sometime after the lucrative Memorial Day weekend.
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Until now, the longest park closure at Walt Disney World was less than three days. Until now, there has never been a time when all Disney parks around the world shut down at once, much less indefinitely.

The parks will adapt and the crowds will come back, but it will take time.
 
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BUF said:
I really don’t see them opening anytime soon...they have an incredible liability in this wholesome family atmosphere...but as always, I could be wrong...and they employ a tremendous amount of people who have now been furloughed.

How crowded will Disney World, Universal be after coronavirus pandemic subsides?

The trick they face is balancing their core mission to entertain with reassuring an understandably nervous public. They have to simultaneously balance protecting that public, their employees, their public image and their bottom line. All four are crucial. If an outbreak were traced to a theme park, the public fallout would be immense.
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The liability would be incredible if Disney did not make changes. Still, planning to reopen -- and how quickly -- are still tabletop exercises right now.
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Late Thursday, Universal announced it won’t reopen until sometime after the lucrative Memorial Day weekend.
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Until now, the longest park closure at Walt Disney World was less than three days. Until now, there has never been a time when all Disney parks around the world shut down at once, much less indefinitely.

The parks will adapt and the crowds will come back, but it will take time.
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I can’t imagine anyone foolish enough to take their family to any crowded place for months much less a theme park. There wouldn’t be enough workers to sanitize even once an hour. I’m still annoyed that all the theme parks got to import/upload their employees into the unemployment database. But yet my 22 year old recent college graduate struggled to get hers submitted and to boot, she doesn’t qualify for the stimulus payment! She’s on week 4 of no job, no unemployment and no stimulus monies.
 
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mickey2942 said:
The numbers in Florida keep rising and the governor is still planning on reopening?!

Coronavirus Florida: Cases rise sharply as governor announces walk-up testing
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Hmmm...is that like walk up testing that people stand closely together in long, long, long lines?



ETA: Officials said the test site will be open from 9 a.m. to 6 p.m every day except Thursday. Each patient will be given a face mask and will follow social distancing guidelines.
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“We’ll start with 200 tests a day and we’ll see where it goes from there,” DeSantis said.
Gov. DeSantis announces new walk-up coronavirus test sites in Florida
 
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BUF said:
I really don’t see them opening anytime soon...they have an incredible liability in this wholesome family atmosphere...but as always, I could be wrong...and they employ a tremendous amount of people who have now been furloughed.

How crowded will Disney World, Universal be after coronavirus pandemic subsides?

The trick they face is balancing their core mission to entertain with reassuring an understandably nervous public. They have to simultaneously balance protecting that public, their employees, their public image and their bottom line. All four are crucial. If an outbreak were traced to a theme park, the public fallout would be immense.
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The liability would be incredible if Disney did not make changes. Still, planning to reopen -- and how quickly -- are still tabletop exercises right now.
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Late Thursday, Universal announced it won’t reopen until sometime after the lucrative Memorial Day weekend.
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Until now, the longest park closure at Walt Disney World was less than three days. Until now, there has never been a time when all Disney parks around the world shut down at once, much less indefinitely.

The parks will adapt and the crowds will come back, but it will take time.
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Theme Parks (especially Disney) ❌
Cruise Ship ❌
 
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BUF said:
Jacksonville to reopen beaches - with limitations

In addition to limits on activities, beaches will open from 6 a.m. to 11 a.m. each morning and from 5 p.m. to 8 p.m. each evening. They will remain closed during all other time periods. People at the beach will be swimming and surfing at their own risk.

The beaches, including Jacksonville, Neptune and Atlantic, have been closed by executive order since March 20.


#rampupthetesting
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Glanced at my Twitter account and saw #FloridaMoron trending because of the decision to reopen beaches. I was able to laugh at most of the posts because the reality is I'm a transplant.

Oh and it's raining today too so I have no idea how long people will be staying at the beach in this area.

LOLOL
 
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I have a friend who sells life insurance. She posted the other day asking if disobeying a stay at home order, going out to protest a stay at home order was the “new suicide” and if so, just know suicide is not covered in most life insurance policies. The foolishness of these people who we all know will be screaming for and demanding treatment.... after they run amuck on the beach. But, I’m sure it will be all the tourists fault, right?! You just cant cure stupid, nor can you isolate it. Sheesh people, stay the H home!

Crowds flock to Jacksonville beaches; model significantly lowers Florida's expected coronavirus death toll
 
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PayrollNerd said:
I have a friend who sells life insurance. She posted the other day asking if disobeying a stay at home order, going out to protest a stay at home order was the “new suicide” and if so, just know suicide is not covered in most life insurance policies. The foolishness of these people who we all know will be screaming for and demanding treatment.... after they run amock on the beach. But, I’m sure it will be all the tourists fault, right?! You just cant cure stupid, nor can you isolate it. Sheesh people, stay the H home!

Crowds flock to Jacksonville beaches; model significantly lowers Florida's expected coronavirus death toll
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This is another thing I have been thinking about lately.

First of all, we've always rented, but for homeowners who have a mortgage or second mortgage on their houses, work hard to meet their monthly payments - when do some of them find the time to enjoy their houses? Maybe it's just me, I'd think during a pandemic, what you worked hard to pay for (a house) would be worth enjoying. Not just cleaning it, but genuinely appreciating it.
 
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MaryG12 said:
This is another thing I have been thinking about lately.

First of all, we've always rented, but for homeowners who have a mortgage or second mortgage on their houses, work hard to meet their monthly payments - when do some of them find the time to enjoy their houses? Maybe it's just me, I'd think during a pandemic, what you worked hard to pay for (a house) would be worth enjoying. Not just cleaning it, but genuinely appreciating it.
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I totally agree! If you’re working away from home routinely, I’d think being in quarantine would be a welcome relief. Go pull weeds in the yard. Trim the bushes. Organize your garage. Clean out your closets. None of those things cost money and keep you busy, distracted and burning calories.

My friend just posted she’d cleaned the grout on the bathroom floor but it wouldn’t come clean anymore. She ordered grout painting pens and literally colored in the lines of her grout! This is the perfect time to do small inexpensive projects.
 
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Some people during this pandemic are still having to go to work every day. I am tired of people who assume that everyone is home.

Just my personal opinion.
 
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