For those who agree with the verdict...help me understand.

[Just Jayla]

George?

Cindy

 

[HatesSociopaths]

I never hear the jurors talk about the shovel and the backing up of her car in the garage. A man like George would have buried the body himself, not left it to FCA, and not in the backyard. The trunk smelling like a dead body was also a big clue not confronted by the jurors. And the jail videos showing conversations between GA and FCA. Those were key as well.

 

[sacrablue]

KC was not all that broke in the sense that she found a way to steal $400 cash from Amy, write forged checks and later (after the car was towed I'm sure), had approx. $200 in her wallet. She could've saved some or put something together, all-be-it in a criminal manner!

Why would Casey and TL break the lock off of George's shed to rob 5 gallons of gas? I just can't understand this.

 

[beccalecca1]

George?

He left at 2:30, but the computer activity continues until 3 pm. (In fact, I think he states sometimes he left at 2:15, IIRC)

 

[Hot Dogs]

I never thought that it would be abnormal for the skull to have moved around with the influx and outflux of water. However, I think if RK could have been more accurate about what exactly he did to the bag/skull on 12/11, we would know if he was the one that lifted it from its side to an upright position-if it was on its side and if the debris being on the side of the interior of the skull was not from the saline wash and dry period.

Given the description of the skull deposition status on Dec. 11th, I don't think he righted the skull then. It was settled into some dirt and was surrounded by fallen leaves up to the depth of the eye sockets. IMO, if a person righted the skull (moved from laying on its side to upright) it was done at least weeks before Dec. 11th.

While I don't believe he had anything to do with anything other than being a sleuther-who-won't-admit-it...

He did admit that. He said he had been following the case on TV and media and he thought that those woods would have been a likely place for Caylee to be found. He told Good Morning America that he had targeted that spot right from the start. He said the swampy smell would have masked the odor of decay and he thought the body dumper would have selected the site based on that. I think he even used the term "a perfect place".

 

[Just Jayla]

Why would Casey and TL break the lock off of George's shed to rob 5 gallons of gas? I just can't understand this.

It could be theorized that KC was not ready to leave her car yet because she was worried about evidence of Caylee being in the trunk. In other words, she was scared to leave the car abandoned and had to make sure she got gas for it ASAP.
She may have told TL they would get it from her house instead of borrowing from him because of pride (not wanting to ask him for money), or TL was broke and gas was at $4.00 a gallon then, or she thought going to buy a gas can and gas was more trouble than breaking into the shed which was fairly close by.
I don't think it has anything to do with her wanting the tape from the can, or wanting to burn down the car later, or anything like that...I think she just figured that $10 or so dollars for the can plus gas money was too much in lieu of going to the house. She also may have figured that if she went and bought one small can, TL would expect her to go back to a station and fill up. If she got two cans from her dad, she could argue she had plenty of gas and did not need to go spend non-existent money at a station.

 

[beccalecca1]

It could be theorized that KC was not ready to leave her car yet because she was worried about evidence of Caylee being in the trunk. In other words, she was scared to leave the car abandoned and had to make sure she got gas for it ASAP.
She may have told TL they would get it from her house instead of borrowing from him because of pride (not wanting to ask him for money), or TL was broke and gas was at $4.00 a gallon then, or she thought going to buy a gas can and gas was more trouble than breaking into the shed which was fairly close by.
I don't think it has anything to do with her wanting the tape from the can, or wanting to burn down the car later, or anything like that...I think she just figured that $10 or so dollars for the can plus gas money was too much in lieu of going to the house. She also may have figured that if she went and bought one small can, TL would expect her to go back to a station and fill up. If she got two cans from her dad, she could argue she had plenty of gas and did not need to go spend non-existent money at a station.

Where was her car at? I know she ran out of gas near her house, but was it ever specified where she ran out of gas?

 

[sacrablue]

June 18 Casey borrows shovel later backs into garage
June 23 Casey & TL break lock and take tanks
June 24 Casey gets in fight with George returning Fing gas tanks
June 27 Sunfire gets dropped at Amscot

 

[cluciano63]

Actually, now I can see why the state did not want to go into detail about her phone calls on the 16th, as the calls lean toward an accident having happened and the State sure did not want anyone to think that, even if true, IMO...

 

[LinTX]

I thought both Vass and Statheropoulos had come up with databases with the chemical compounds found in human decomposition (hence the 41 and 86 numbers). I'm pretty sure I remember someone asking Vass on the stand if he had a database of chemicals that are found in human decomposition, referring to this exact thing. So, if he chooses now, even though he's developed this database, that only 5 are the important ones, how can I see him as credible?

In regards to the trash thing, my post pointed out that the other study that was done, with 6 partitially filled bins in a controlled environment (50 F), less than 50% also tested positive for dimethyl sulfide. Did the researchers attempt to find out why those bins tested positive for that?

Yes, you are correct in the 41 & 86 being the total numbers of compounds in each man's database (41=Vass and 86=Dr.S). The credibility of either of the studies has nothing to do with the 5...that's just the number JA used when he excluded found compounds that were not easily explained by other means. I was just commenting on the math in your post because you were using the 5 against the *total* numbers in each database to get to a ratio. You'd have include the excluded compounds as a nominator to do that...

As for the study on the trash bins, I don't think Dr. S. was trying to prove anything, he was just recording results. But the blogger's point, as I read it, was that Dr. Furton used the study as a red herring - there was no trash in a cleaned car trunk when the air samples were taken in this case.

 

[gngr~snap]

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[Smelly Squirrel]

Why would Casey and TL break the lock off of George's shed to rob 5 gallons of gas? I just can't understand this.

Well it happened. TL said so himself. I don't see why this is so mysterious to anybody. KC is a thief. She broke down in the area and likely figured that was the easiest and cheapest way to get gas.

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

Why wasn't the detail of all of the phone and computer activity spelled out like above post at the trial? Surely I did not miss all of that, I only missed a few short bits. The amount of activity and the number of calls from Casey trying to reach her parents is pretty astounding. Not sure what conclusions could be drawn but surely it points to something having happened, and Casey, not reaching anyone, deals with it herself.

My guess is she was trying to arrange for her parents to watch Caylee that night. She'd been staying over at TL's without Caylee. I heard someone on some site say TL told her not to bring Caylee overnights. Does anybody have any confirmation on that?

Also am confused about the contined computer activity 1-3pm when Casey was said to be gone before 1pm by George...?

Does anybody have the internet history for that time to see what sites were visited?

 

[kelian36]

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[beccalecca1]

Yes, you are correct in the 41 & 86 being the total numbers of compounds in each man's database (41=Vass and 86=Dr.S). The credibility of either of the studies has nothing to do with the 5...that's just the number JA used when he excluded found compounds that were not easily explained by other means. I was just commenting on the math in your post because you were using the 5 against the *total* numbers in each database to get to a ratio. You'd have include the excluded compounds as a nominator to do that...

As for the study on the trash bins, I don't think Dr. S. was trying to prove anything, he was just recording results. But the blogger's point, as I read it, was that Dr. Furton used the study as a red herring - there was no trash in a cleaned car trunk when the air samples were taken in this case.

I'm confused. From what I recall in testimony, there was 5 compounds found in the trunk that are in Vass' database... right? So, that would be a 5/41 probability?

 

[kelian36]

Originally Posted by cluciano63 View Post

Why wasn't the detail of all of the phone and computer activity spelled out like above post at the trial? Surely I did not miss all of that, I only missed a few short bits. The amount of activity and the number of calls from Casey trying to reach her parents is pretty astounding. Not sure what conclusions could be drawn but surely it points to something having happened, and Casey, not reaching anyone, deals with it herself.

Casey was panicking...she just killed her daughter and wanted mommy and daddy to cover her azzzzz.

 

[gngr~snap]

My guess is she was trying to arrange for her parents to watch Caylee that night. She'd been staying over at TL's without Caylee. I heard someone on some site say TL told her not to bring Caylee overnights. Does anybody have any confirmation on that?


Does anybody have the internet history for that time to see what sites were visited?

George says she told him they were not coming home. they were staying WITH the nanny and Cindy already knew this. Why would they automatically think she was calling them to babysit?CA had been keeping Caylee every night except the June 1,7 and 9th KC moved out of her house *June 2nd I think. I do believe KC did have Caylee during the day,
* I need to verify that

 

[beccalecca1]

George says she told him they were not coming home. they were staying WITH the nanny and Cindy already knew this. Why would they automatically think she was calling them to babysit?CA had been keeping Caylee every night except the June 1,7 and 9th KC moved out of her house *June 2nd I think. I do believe KC did have Caylee during the day,
* I need to verify that

GA said that Casey had clothing in her back pack as a just in case they weren't coming home on the 16th because she had a meeting and then an event that may go late. Caylee and Casey would probably stay at Zanny's.

 

[Soulmagent]

I dont believe the sighting by George at all that day.

So the last time anyone saw Caylee other then the family of tale tellers ,is the nursing home people where Cindy took Caylee, or shirley when they visited and Caylee ate dinner there but then I never understood why Cindy had the whole recalling the dinner issue that fathers day.

Nothing George says in the truth imo and Cindy is not much better in my personal opinion.
I believe all the reported crying over the photo's with Caylee that day was a bit more then Cindy says. It was the last time Caylee might see her grandfather?? Who thinks like that (given how this family is always in denial we know they dont)<---my opinion yet again!

 

[MarthaM]

Actually, now I can see why the state did not want to go into detail about her phone calls on the 16th, as the calls lean toward an accident having happened and the State sure did not want anyone to think that, even if true, IMO...

Yes. Or the State couldn't use that pattern of calls to prove anything in their favor because phone records from other days might have indicated that she often made many calls in a short period of time to her parents or others. If the State tried to show there was something ominous about those calls, the defense could have come right back with evidence that the pattern wasn't unusual.

I don't know anything about her cell phone habits in general, just guessing as to a reason why the prosecutors didn't go there.