France - Explosions and shooting in Paris, 13 November 2015 #3

[JudgeJudi]

Belgium has just raised its terrorist threat level to maximum. This will be the news its citizens wake up to as it's still the middle of the night there. This is an unprecedented step for Belgium. What it means is that the terrorist threat is serious and imminent.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Did the west create ISIS: http://www.news.com.au/world/middle...e/news-story/e44273d42822db30620066b6efb670a0

 

[wendybtn]

bright kids, in all liklhood there fears are far more valid---- that stuff at Chipotle comes out way to quick to be cooked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thats funny

But there was no E Coli outbreak at Chipotle. No trace of E Coli was found in a Chipotle restaurant or at any of their suppliers. It always amazes me how good the media is at finding guilt but how terrible it is at following up on factual stories.

 

[Momoffourboys]

But there was no E Coli outbreak at Chipotle. No trace of E Coli was found in a Chipotle restaurant or at any of their suppliers. It always amazes me how good the media is at finding guilt but how terrible it is at following up on factual stories.

Respectfully, that is not true. Today, a Chipotle in Amhurst, Buffalo tested positive.

ETA: I only know because it's where my son eats most of his meals.

 

[Tadpole12]

Ty y'all for posting all the great links.

Why does the USA so often react with isolationist policy?


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/glob.../article27373931/?cmpid=rss1&click=sf_globefb

Realizing these trends, IS is using the refugees as pawns in its global game. Believing the world will betray the migrants, it has bet heavily that a post-Paris xenophobic backlash will seal off the borders and leave the refugees stranded. Our next move is therefore critical. If we react as they hoped, we will have kept IS’s tax base under its control, fed its recruitment campaign and reinforced its ideological message.
But we can both save the refugees and tip the balance of power on the battlefield in our favour. We can deplete their resources and disable their propaganda machine.
The strategic move in this case is to stand firm on providing assistance in the refugee crisis. By holding onto the moral high ground, we can also win this war.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2015...ing-idUSKCN0T90S520151120#1l5S3YYd5B3TSGHi.97

"put 164 under house arrest"
What does this house arrest involve?

 

[Tadpole12]

http://www.vox.com/world/2015/11/20/9769264/captagon-isis-drug
Captagon: ISIS's favorite amphetamine, explained

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenethylline

Fenethylline is a popular drug in Western Asia, allegedly used by militant groups in Syria. It is manufactured locally in a cheap and simple process and it sells for between $5 and $20.[SUP][8][/SUP] According to some leaks, militant groups would also export the drug in exchange for weapons and cash.[SUP][9][/SUP][SUP][10][/SUP] According to Abdelelah Mohammed Al-Sharif, secretary general of the National Committee for Narcotics Control and assistant director of Anti-Drug and Preventative Affairs, 40% of the drug users who fall in the 12-22 age group in Saudi Arabia are addicted to fenethylline.[SUP][11][/SUP] On October 27, 2015 a member of the Saudi royal family, prince Abdel Mohsen Bin Walid Bin Abdulaziz, and four others were detained in Beirut on charges of drug traffic after the airport security discovered two tons of Captagon (fenethylline) pills and some cocaine on a private jet with destiny to the Saudi capital of Riyadh.[SUP][12][/SUP][SUP][13][/SUP][SUP][14][/SUP] The following month Agence France Press reported that the Turkish authoritIes had seized 2 tonnes of Captagon during raids in Hatay region on the Syrian border. The pills, almost 11 million of them, had been produced in Syria and were being shipped to countries in the Arabian Gulf.[SUP][15][/SUP]

 

[FLmom777]

I had to share a comment found on an article about Anonymous and their battle against Isis. They are using the hashtag #daeshbags to insult them on twitter. One person commented on the article that they are now being attacked by 72 virgins. :happydance:

 

[CARIIS]

you know what just hit me? I think most would think of the term "mastermind" as positive. I think media should have come up, from the beginning , with something less flattering.

And i saw a video on CBS from a different angle than I had seen a can understand how they might have known only about 2 being in there

CBS ----- TSA failed 95% of tests mocking gettinig stuff in

 

[Deleted member 110058]

Hi All,

This is information via my brother who was recently in Syria. I'm not able to explain why he was in Syria other than to say that it was for humanitarian purposes. Also, he returned just last week so this information is current, he is a U.S. citizen and I do have his permission to make this post.
He explained to me the process in which some Syrians receive travel papers/passports.
Syria does not have vast, accurate databases full of citizen data, as the U.S. does.
They do have some type of computerized system but those that work in these offices adhere to very few security measures. This is mostly due to corruption. No surprise.
If a person needs an alias I.D., they simply bribe the clerk. And voila, they now have a new name and verifiable documents. He said that it is a tragic situation on many levels. The clerk's family might not have food or money for medicine, so they gladly accept bribes. It is so commonplace that the practice isn't significantly hidden.
What is so terrifying about this is that the papers aren't fraudulent. They are 100% legit papers granted by the Syrian government.
So sure, we can vet the refugees coming into the U.S., but there is no way to know who these people really are.
However, it was his impression that ISIS doesn't have much of a need for bribes or sending people overseas - for two reasons. 1) The cells are already in the U.S./EU and 2) ISIS has great confidence in their ability to recruit within the U.S./EU.
His thoughts for a solution are two-fold. Firstly, the U.S. should temporarily halt Syrian immigration. Not because it will prevent terrorism but because U.S. citizens need this for their peace of mind. Secondly, implement programs within existing immigrant populations to prevent radicalization from happening.
Thought you might like to hear his account of things.

 

[Momoffourboys]

you know what just hit me? I think most would think of the term "mastermind" as positive. I think media should have come up, from the beginning , with something less flattering.

And i saw a video on CBS from a different angle than I had seen a can understand how they might have known only about 2 being in there

CBS ----- TSA failed 95% of tests mocking gettinig stuff in

Agreed. I wish they would stop with the mastermind stuff.
Deranged, evil terrorist is much more fitting.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Dozens in U.S. monitored after Paris for fear of copycat

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/20/politics/paris-attacks-isis-copycat-fears/

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

Hi All,

This is information via my brother who was recently in Syria. I'm not able to explain why he was in Syria other than to say that it was for humanitarian purposes. Also, he returned just last week so this information is current, he is a U.S. citizen and I do have his permission to make this post.
He explained to me the process in which some Syrians receive travel papers/passports.
Syria does not have vast, accurate databases full of citizen data, as the U.S. does.
They do have some type of computerized system but those that work in these offices adhere to very few security measures. This is mostly due to corruption. No surprise.
If a person needs an alias I.D., they simply bribe the clerk. And voila, they now have a new name and verifiable documents. He said that it is a tragic situation on many levels. The clerk's family might not have food or money for medicine, so they gladly accept bribes. It is so commonplace that the practice isn't significantly hidden.
What is so terrifying about this is that the papers aren't fraudulent. They are 100% legit papers granted by the Syrian government.
So sure, we can vet the refugees coming into the U.S., but there is no way to know who these people really are.
However, it was his impression that ISIS doesn't have much of a need for bribes or sending people overseas - for two reasons. 1) The cells are already in the U.S./EU and 2) ISIS has great confidence in their ability to recruit within the U.S./EU.
His thoughts for a solution are two-fold. Firstly, the U.S. should temporarily halt Syrian immigration. Not because it will prevent terrorism but because U.S. citizens need this for their peace of mind. Secondly, implement programs within existing immigrant populations to prevent radicalization from happening.
Thought you might like to hear his account of things.

Wow!!!
Thank you for a very insightful & yet scary post.

I hope our leaders are aware.....

 

[FLmom777]

Agreed. I wish they would stop with the mastermind stuff.
Deranged, evil terrorist is much more fitting.

How about ringleader?

 

[Momoffourboys]

Snip

Fully 83 percent of registered voters say they believe a terrorist attack in the United States resulting in large casualties is likely in the near future, rising from 73 percent in a Quinnipiac University poll earlier this month asking the same question. Forty percent say a major attack in the United States is “very likely,” up eight percentage points since last week’s attacks to match the record level of concern recorded after the 2005 subway bombings in Britain.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...6310ca-8f9a-11e5-ae1f-af46b7df8483_story.html

 

[CARIIS]

Mom

just heard the news and i get this more now - the chain is making people sick folks!

CARIIS, funny you bring up fear and the next generation. Ironically, my kids are more afraid of the E Coli outbreak at Chipotle than a terrorist attack.

 

[CARIIS]

not caught up may have been posted
Belgium has placed Brussels at the highest terror alert level, citing a "serious and imminent threat that requires taking specific security measures as well as specific recommendations for the population."

CNN size not me <fixed size>

 

[CARIIS]

How about ringleader?

Better IMO!

 

[tangelo]

Just went back and read this original article. Once I get past the horror of the fact that we helped (are helping) ISIS, I'm still not understanding what reason the U.S. has for doing this. Money? To maintain a presence in the territory - for the strategical purposes? Would someone please explain this to me (not a anger induced rhetorical question)! In all seriousness, could someone please explain the rational of the U.S.? Thank You

it would certainly suggest that there are those in power who welcome the caliphate eh?

 

[CARIIS]

Dozens in U.S. monitored after Paris for fear of copycat

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/20/politics/paris-attacks-isis-copycat-fears/

If only they could monitor them after the story fades - aren't we all sick of hearing they WERE on our watch list but funding...bla...bla

 

[Deleted member 110058]

Wow!!!
Thank you for a very insightful & yet scary post.

I hope our leaders are aware.....

This is response to your post, ATasteofHoney and also to my original post #564.

His understanding is that they are very aware of this situation. You'd have to be blind not to be aware!
However, our news as well as Obama will not speak to this for strategical purposes.
The reason? ISIS wants the US to stop allowing Syrians in. This is part of their plan. I know, crazy... but stay with me
ISIS wants to keep the Syrians in Syria. In the areas that ISIS controls, these Syrian citizens provide ISIS income via taxation. This is why Obama is adamant about continuing with immigration. It would be a way to starve ISIS out.
However, as we now see, Congress doesn't think it's worth the risk.