France - Explosions and shooting in Paris, 13 November 2015 #3

[CARIIS]

Imagine what we could do with the money- hi spped rail, safe bridges, fund schooling, cancer stuff on and on

In response to 9/11, America launched a 13-year war in Afghanistan that ended up costing $685.6 billion, according to the Congressional Research Service. The war in Iraq cost $814.6 billion. Together these wars cost the lives of more than 6,800 U.S. servicemen—more than double the casualties on 9/11.

Until September, France had limited its bombing campaign to ISIS targets in Iraq and accounted for just 3 percent of airstrikes ...

—its lone aircraft carrier, Charles de Gaulle, is currently en route to the eastern Mediterranean carrying 24 more jets.

Whereas January’s Charlie Hebdo attack had a specific political message behind it, the point here seems to be that no one is safe, r
The economy of Paris is built on its nightlife and cultural offerings. Following the Charlie Hebdo attacks, restaurants and bars saw 68 percent of their reservations cancelled—


It’s not just the confidence of Parisians that matters: France is the world’s #1 most visited country with 83 million foreign tourists in 2013; tourism accounts for a full 7 percent of the country’s GDP.

Nine days after the Charlie Hebdo attacks, revenues from tourism had fallen 25 percent, and it had plunged another 26 percent over the 10 days after that.


France is the Eurozone’s second-largest economy (and sixth-largest in the world),


http://time.com/4120187/paris-attacks-economic-cost-terror/

 

[KateB]

http://www.vox.com/world/2015/11/20/9769264/captagon-isis-drug
Captagon: ISIS's favorite amphetamine, explained

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenethylline

Fenethylline is a popular drug in Western Asia, allegedly used by militant groups in Syria. It is manufactured locally in a cheap and simple process and it sells for between $5 and $20.[SUP][8][/SUP] According to some leaks, militant groups would also export the drug in exchange for weapons and cash.[SUP][9][/SUP][SUP][10][/SUP] According to Abdelelah Mohammed Al-Sharif, secretary general of the National Committee for Narcotics Control and assistant director of Anti-Drug and Preventative Affairs, 40% of the drug users who fall in the 12-22 age group in Saudi Arabia are addicted to fenethylline.[SUP][11][/SUP] On October 27, 2015 a member of the Saudi royal family, prince Abdel Mohsen Bin Walid Bin Abdulaziz, and four others were detained in Beirut on charges of drug traffic after the airport security discovered two tons of Captagon (fenethylline) pills and some cocaine on a private jet with destiny to the Saudi capital of Riyadh.[SUP][12][/SUP][SUP][13][/SUP][SUP][14][/SUP] The following month Agence France Press reported that the Turkish authoritIes had seized 2 tonnes of Captagon during raids in Hatay region on the Syrian border. The pills, almost 11 million of them, had been produced in Syria and were being shipped to countries in the Arabian Gulf.[SUP][15][/SUP]

This little pill certainly hit the news this week with a bang. Interesting to see the Saudi connection again.

 

[CARIIS]

Hadfi, who is believed to have detonated a suicide bomb outside the Stade de France in Paris, failed his exams after studying at the Koninklijk Technisch school in Diest.


a highly regarded technology college in the affluent town of Diest.

attended the school for five or six months in 2013.
he wanted to be a truck driver. At the end of the year he didn't pass his exams so the next year he went to a different school in Brussels.
"When he was with us he didn't have a lot of friends.
" his mother was in the hospital.
"He was a normal pupil and we had no problems with him and he was pretty calm."
Hadfi, known as the “baby-faced jihadi,”
The 20-year-old French national, who lived in Neder-over-Heembeek, Belgium, had recently called for attacks on the “infidel dogs” of the West.

 

[CARIIS]

it would certainly suggest that there are those in power who welcome the caliphate eh?

Could it be oil?

 

[tarabull]

‘You’re a virus, we’re the cure’: Anonymous takes down 20,000 ISIS Twitter accounts

https://www.rt.com/news/322792-anonymous-isis-accounts-attacks/

 

[Tadpole12]

Hi All,

This is information via my brother who was recently in Syria. I'm not able to explain why he was in Syria other than to say that it was for humanitarian purposes. Also, he returned just last week so this information is current, he is a U.S. citizen and I do have his permission to make this post.
He explained to me the process in which some Syrians receive travel papers/passports.
Syria does not have vast, accurate databases full of citizen data, as the U.S. does.
They do have some type of computerized system but those that work in these offices adhere to very few security measures. This is mostly due to corruption. No surprise.
If a person needs an alias I.D., they simply bribe the clerk. And voila, they now have a new name and verifiable documents. He said that it is a tragic situation on many levels. The clerk's family might not have food or money for medicine, so they gladly accept bribes. It is so commonplace that the practice isn't significantly hidden.
What is so terrifying about this is that the papers aren't fraudulent. They are 100% legit papers granted by the Syrian government.
So sure, we can vet the refugees coming into the U.S., but there is no way to know who these people really are.
However, it was his impression that ISIS doesn't have much of a need for bribes or sending people overseas - for two reasons. 1) The cells are already in the U.S./EU and 2) ISIS has great confidence in their ability to recruit within the U.S./EU.
His thoughts for a solution are two-fold. Firstly, the U.S. should temporarily halt Syrian immigration. Not because it will prevent terrorism but because U.S. citizens need this for their peace of mind. Secondly, implement programs within existing immigrant populations to prevent radicalization from happening.
Thought you might like to hear his account of things.

Yes, much appreciated.
"The cells are already in the U.S./EU"
Ya, that's what I was thinking; embedded.

 

[CARIIS]

‘You’re a virus, we’re the cure’: Anonymous takes down 20,000 ISIS Twitter accounts

https://www.rt.com/news/322792-anonymous-isis-accounts-attacks/

Hi Tara!

It sounds neat to mess up there stuff!


I will see if I can find it - some intel guy was saying this was not really helpful for Annonymous to be doing this.

He said all they do is change theri names - which makes following them ever harder!

Dont have or do Facebook Twitter Insta anything, Vine or Rine, Pin or Din !!etc is it a hassle to set the stuff up?

 

[CARIIS]

After hearing Don Lemmon be hysterical for the last week (!) I kinda was not really paying attn of Brussels warning.

But, if you think about it, they sure have talked to a heck of a lot of terrorists in the past week . CNN just reproted 700 raids , one would hope that would yeild credible info.

And they have done really fascinating job in getting the head one. MOO

 

[CARIIS]

This little pill certainly hit the news this week with a bang. Interesting to see the Saudi connection again.

hey a $55 million dollar paycheck aint all that bad! trying to visualize two tons of pills!

 

[tangelo]

Imagine what we could do with the money- hi spped rail, safe bridges, fund schooling, cancer stuff on and on

In response to 9/11, America launched a 13-year war in Afghanistan that ended up costing $685.6 billion, according to the Congressional Research Service. The war in Iraq cost $814.6 billion. Together these wars cost the lives of more than 6,800 U.S. servicemen—more than double the casualties on 9/11.

Until September, France had limited its bombing campaign to ISIS targets in Iraq and accounted for just 3 percent of airstrikes ...

—its lone aircraft carrier, Charles de Gaulle, is currently en route to the eastern Mediterranean carrying 24 more jets.

Whereas January’s Charlie Hebdo attack had a specific political message behind it, the point here seems to be that no one is safe, r
The economy of Paris is built on its nightlife and cultural offerings. Following the Charlie Hebdo attacks, restaurants and bars saw 68 percent of their reservations cancelled—


It’s not just the confidence of Parisians that matters: France is the world’s #1 most visited country with 83 million foreign tourists in 2013; tourism accounts for a full 7 percent of the country’s GDP.

Nine days after the Charlie Hebdo attacks, revenues from tourism had fallen 25 percent, and it had plunged another 26 percent over the 10 days after that.


France is the Eurozone’s second-largest economy (and sixth-largest in the world),


http://time.com/4120187/paris-attacks-economic-cost-terror/

yeah thats the official position of the state dept...what exactly was the political message again?

 

[CARIIS]

I wish they had names like Tom or David or Sara or Susan!

Cnn had real interesting guy on did not get name he said it takes 17 (?) not a typo to follow someone 24/7?

 

[CARIIS]

yeah thats the official position of the state dept...what exactly was the political message again?

Hallaburten +Cheney = $!

 

[CARIIS]

Interesting ....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...sts-could-have-used-PlayStation4-to-plot.html

 

[Tadpole12]

http://news.yahoo.com/least-36-dead-bombing-raids-eastern-syria-monitor-231137389.html

Dozens dead in heaviest east Syria strikes since war began

"At least 36 people were killed and dozens more injured in more than 70 raids carried out by Russian and Syrian planes against several districts in Deir Ezzor," Rami Abdel Rahman of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights monitoring group told AFP.
He described the raids, which targeted several large cities and smaller towns in the province and three oil fields,as "the worst bombardment of the region since the start of the uprising in 2011".
The province and most of the provincial capital is held by Islamic State militants, with the exception of the military airport and a few areas controlled by the regime."

 

[CARIIS]

Hallaburten +Cheney = $!

793 raids since last week's attacks
ng
Last night alone, i 182 raids, detaining 17 people, and seizing 76 weapons plus drugs

250,000 euros. maybe give it victims saurvivors


palce where 7 hr raid happened - they can order the machine guns used in paris on line CCN

http://www.nbc15.com/home/headlines...hootout-and-explosion-in-Paris-347880061.html

 

[CARIIS]

Crisis Center of the Belgian Interior Ministry, Brussels faces a “serious and imminent threat that requires taking specific security measures as well as specific recommendations for the population.”
It has told citizens to avoid concerts, sporting events, airports, train stations and other places where large crowds gather.
The announcement translates into a virtual lock down of a city with a population of over 1.8 million.
The Interior Ministry also told citizens to comply with security checks.


[video=youtube;XgSplpnkc9Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgSplpnkc9Q[/video]

 

[cottonweaver]

RSBM & BBM

This is what every **** hate preacher or preacher or salafist has been telling his congregation for years and years and ages. They did so before ISIS and they will continue to do so long after ISIS is gone.

To present this as a specific aim or strategy of ISIS is absurd. Any serious scholar or expert should know this and inform the public instead of spinning and framing.

BIB1 - Agreed. The link was from an archive -it's not post Paris - from writings by Wahabbi ISIS -(Wahabbism pre-dates ISIS, but that wasn't the point) Wahabbism may be Medieval in origin but your post that I was replying to was saying something different wasn't it.

BIB2 - So in terms of your post - can you link me to "serious scholar or expert " who is saying that ISIS's views are not a development of medieval Wahabism thereby demonstrating the "greyzone" is not a "specific aim or strategy of ISIS"? ( That was the content of your post that I replied to.)

 

[cottonweaver]

Belgium has just raised its terrorist threat level to maximum. This will be the news its citizens wake up to as it's still the middle of the night there. This is an unprecedented step for Belgium. What it means is that the terrorist threat is serious and imminent.

IMO this is also ironic JJ.

Belgium , home to some of the most important political agencies for the entire European continent, with arguably the WORST intelligence operation..... authorities have now awoken to reality and done some intelligence work on who* they are harbouring and exporting to places like Paris - which was basically the same people* as last week.

NB Brussels is the home of the EU, HQ for NATO, HQ of the European Parliament. It is seen as the CAPITAL of European politics............

This is the venue of the current frantic civil service meetings , where politicos are being forced now to re-consider security & border arrangements for the whole EU.

 

[cottonweaver]

This article is great simply for the public comments that can be read.

This gives a good feel for the current debate in European society- from the people - regarding European Muslims' current position - post Madrid, post 7/7, post Hebdo, post Paris.....similar themes over the 10 years.

This is the Guardian commenters, which is open to all commenters, left & right wing.......so whilst it's not the The Sun or FBook comments.... it'll be reflective of influential popular thought across Europe IMO.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/05/british-muslims-7-july-london-bombings

 

[cottonweaver]

Lower Manhattan resident,Michele Lent Hirsch, witness at 9/11 gives thoughts post Paris

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/19/paris-attacks-pacifist-response-september-11