France - Explosions and shooting in Paris, 13 November 2015 #3

[FindHG]

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/morell-al-qaeda-is-just-as-dangerous-as-isis/
notes below

'The first in a pipeline of many,' according to former CIA, said by current CIA, this morning

1 ISIS leadership in RQA directed this first attack like this

2 Russian airline bomb info firmed up

3 AQ did Bamako, just if not more dangerous

4 Brussels very clear another attack, similar, planne, LE raided another apartment and found weapons, this morning

similarities are very concerning

we should be pre-emptive. acknowledge current strategy isn't working.

pick up speed and pace of response

 

[catatonia]

Has it already been mentioned that 12 chemical/protective suits were stolen from a children's hospital in Paris?

 

[swedie]

<modsnip>
Canada is across the Atlantic Ocean while Holland is less than half the distance and can be travelled by land. 25,000 is the number of refugees our Prime Minister in Canada is planning on bringing in before the end of 2015. I'm sure there will be many more to follow in 2016 and proceeding years. As far as immigration goes, Canada is doing its part in this situation and has done very well for immigrants and refugees over the years.

FYI Canada takes in approximately 250,000 immigrants and refugees per year, and has since 1990.
Population of the Netherlands is 17 million, Europe's is over 742 million. Canada's population is 35 million. Population of US 319 million. The USA has only taken in, and only plans on taking in just over 12,000 over the past four years. The US's state of California has a higher population than all of Canada. So to criticize Canada is not appealing IMHO. Sometimes it helps to do the math and look at the big picture. HTH. Oh and not to forget, there are numerous states now in the USA who have now turned down the Syrian refugees and there are numerous countries who won't even consider taking any, many mid eastern and eastern countries matter of fact. MOO.

According to the first data from the 2011 NHS, Canada had a total of about 6,775,800 foreign-born individuals who arrived as immigrants. They represented 20.6% of the total population

http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/nhs-enm/2011/as-sa/99-010-x/99-010-x2011001-eng.cfm

The Netherlands has a long history of immigration. Both refugees and economic migrants have come to the country in large numbers. Currently almost 20% of the Dutch population are immigrants or children of immigrant parents.

http://focus-migration.hwwi.de/The-Netherlands.2644.0.html?L=1

In the aftermath of the terrorist attacks in Paris, at least 28 governors have said they oppose the entry of Syrian refugees into their states.
Some countries, like Turkey and Germany, have accepted hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees. But the United States has so far admitted only a tiny fraction of the estimated four million refugees who have fled Syria. (See map) Where the 1,854 Syrian Refugees Admitted
to the U.S. Since 2012 Were Placed

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...n-refugees-are-in-the-united-states.html?_r=0

 

[cottonweaver]

Revealed: Landlord who was arrested after lending his flat to the Paris massacre jihadis is a convicted killer and 'violent gangland kingpin' who stabbed teenager to death, 5 ys in jail for "self-defence"!

No information given here that he KNEW they were terrorists etc. It says he was the "boss" of the area and was released in 2013

In 2008, Bendaoud, who is in his 30s, was sentenced to eight years in prison for killing a 16-year-old college student with a large meat knife.
The pair had been 'arguing over a mobile phone' and Bendaoud 'insisted he was acting in self defence', said a legal source in Paris.
'Bendaoud avoided a murder charge and served relatively little time in prison for manslaughter before being released,' the source added.
Bendaoud was convicted at Bobigny criminal court in November 2008 for 'deadly assault and wounding causing accidental death' after killing his 'best friend', a 16-year-old identified as David.
The attack happened on Boxing Day, December 26th 2006, on the Rue de Corbillion in St-Denis.
The pair had a violent argument, which ended in fighting, and David ended up being cut in the throat by the meat knife.
When Bendaoud was released from prison, David's mother said Bendaoud 'risked hurting other victims'
Not only was he linked to drug deals, but he was the 'strong man' who 'sorted out' tenants who could not pay their rent.
Another source who knows Bendaoud describes him as 'violent and dangerous', and well known for being a 'gang leader' in an area notorious for its drug trade. Under French anti-terrorism laws, Bendaoud can be held in custody up to six days before being charged or released

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...pin-stabbed-teenager-death.html#ixzz3sJI31HAp

 

[cottonweaver]

Two Abdeslam brothers in Paris attacks 'stopped drinking and started praying' six months before atrocity, reveals their sibling
Salah Abdeslam 'told mother he was going skiing with brother Ibrahim'
Brother Mohamed says both began to change half a year before attacks
Salah, 26, has been subject of international manhunt since Paris attacks

:shocked2::snowman::snowflake:

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...g-men-taking-drugs-emerges.html#ixzz3sJOz9lW8

 

[ZaZara]

BELGIAN FEDERAL POLICE SAYS THANK-YOU TO ALL THE HELPFUL CATS

Federale Politie &#8207;@FedPol_pers 19 min.
Voor de katten die ons gisteren geholpen hebben... Alsjeblieft! #BrusselsLockdown


For all the cats who helped us yesterday .... Here's to you! #BrusselsLockdown

 

[ZaZara]

BRUSSELS LOCKED DOWN AS PARIS ATTACKER ON THE RUN

AFP

http://news.yahoo.com/belgium-weighs-extending-lockdown-police-hunt-paris-attackers-054139052.html

Brussels (AFP) - Europe's capital Brussels was locked down for a third day under maximum terror alert Monday, with schools and the metro closed after Belgian police raids failed to track down key Paris attacks suspect Salah Abdeslam.

Prime Minister Charles Michel said Brussels, a diplomatic and business hub home to the European Union and NATO, faced a "serious and imminent" threat of attacks similar to those claimed by Islamic State jihadists which left 130 people dead across Paris.


BBM

 

[cottonweaver]

" two pizza shop owners who were stopped from boarding flight because other passengers complained they were speaking Arabic
Maher Khalil and Anas Ayyad delayed Wednesday at boarding in Chicago
Khalil, 28, and Ayyad, 29, spoke in Arabic before flight to Philadelphia
Gate agent said not to board because passenger was afraid to fly with them
They called 911 to get help from police and were later allowed to board
On Sunday, a Southwest flight from Indianapolis to Los Angeles diverted to Kansas City International airport because passengers were being 'unruly'
Three passengers were detained then rebooked and no charges were filed
A third recent Southwest flight also was delayed because passengers refused to allow six Muslims on a plane from Chicago to Houston"

:thinking:

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...est-flight-speaking-Arabic.html#ixzz3sJW4cl00

 

[SophieRose]

Quiet Capitulation: Merkel Slowly Changes Tune on Refugee Issue
http://www.spiegel.de/international...s-her-stance-on-refugee-limits-a-1063773.html

For Merkel, the model is still the best way to save face because it allows her to claim that German asylum law was not compromised. On the other hand, she is drawing closer to her critics' demands to finally impose a limit on immigration.

The Chancellery's plan calls for the EU would accept a generous number of refugees who are currently in Turkey -- in the range of 300,000 to 500,000 people a year. In return, Turkey would have to pledge to stop allowing refugees there -- those who are not part of the ocntigent -- to head for Europe. According to the German Interior Ministry, the EU would intercept refugee boats in the Aegean Sea and return the migrants back to Turkey. If a refugee did manage to reach Germany despite the precaution, he or she could apply for asylum. But the quota solution only makes sense if Europe's external borders so tightly controlled that hardly anyone can get through. Article 16a of the German constitution would essentially be suspended.

In return, the borders within Europe could remain open. This is important to Merkel. She has said repeatedly that she is determined to save the Schengen system of border-free travel within the EU. The price would be to largely seal off the EU external border.

 

[catatonia]

She has said repeatedly that she is determined to save the Schengen system of border-free travel within the EU.

:thinking:

 

[Elley Mae]

http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/1122/748385-belgium/

Belgian police launch series of raids as lockdown continues

Asked whether Brussels' maximum threat level since yesterday related to Salah Abdeslam alone, Interior Minister Jan Jambon said "unfortunately not".

"It is a threat that goes beyond just that one person," he said. "We're looking at more things, that's why we've put in place such a concentration of resources."

Bernard Clerfayt, the mayor of the Brussels district of Schaerbeek, was quoted as saying there were "two terrorists" in the Brussels area ready to carry out violence.

 

[cottonweaver]

The Paris attack suspect Salah Abdeslam remains at large after evading a series of late-night police raids in Belgium, which is now in its third day of lockdown.

Officials said they have arrested at least 21 suspects in 24 raids since Sunday night aimed at closing down a terrorist network which authorities believe is planning an attack similar to the one which left 130 people dead in Paris 10 days ago.

No weapons or explosives were found during the raids, and the failure to capture Abdeslam will further undermine wavering confidence in the competence of Belgium’s counter-terrorism agencies.

I wonder if leaving it a week before cracking down with raids has assisted the hiding of weapons?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ix-terror-suspects-after-raids-across-country

 

[dotr]

:thinking:

Maybe she did not want the EU going back to these days, imo...
[video=youtube;La4Dcd1aUcE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La4Dcd1aUcE[/video]

 

[Bravo]

Very sweet of you.We leave on saturday.I have not been reading here because I don't want to get overly paronoid.I can report from Belgium.I will be there for awhile because my husband works there.

So glad u will be checking in from Belgium.

 

[cottonweaver]

Stranded migrants sew mouths shut in protest against Balkan border controls
Six Iranians make symbolic protest as growing numbers of people are stranded on Balkan borders with winter approaching

Moroccans, Iranians and Pakistanis on Greece’s northern border with Macedonia have blocked rail traffic and demanded passage to western Europe, stranded by a policy of filtering migrants in the Balkans that has raised human rights concerns.

Six Iranians sewed their mouths shut during the protest. Asked where he wanted to go, one of the Iranian men – a 34-year-old electrical engineer named Hamid – said: “To any free country in the world. I cannot go back. I will be hanged.”

On the Macedonian-Greek border, crowds of Moroccans, Iranians and others blocked the railway line running between the two countries, halting at least one train that tried to cross, a Reuters photographer said.

A group of Bangladeshis had stripped to the waist and written slogans on their chests in red paint. “Shoot us, we never go back,” read one. “Shoot us or save us,” read another.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...hut-in-protest-against-balkan-border-controls

 

[Elley Mae]

The country has been shut down since Saturday after Vice Prime Minister Didier Reynders revealed authorities were looking for "one and more individuals with weapons, explosives." The terror-threat level in Brussels has been raised to 4, the highest level.

"The threat is imminent, precise," Reynders said on Belgian television network RTL. "We're talking about possible attacks by several individuals, heavily armed."

http://abcnews.go.com/International...le-raids-continue-overnight/story?id=35367004


bbm I wonder if information is coming from cell phones they have gotten from previous arrest. jmo idk

 

[cottonweaver]

Yanis Varoufakis, the former Greek finance minister, has called on Britons to vote to remain in the European Union in the upcoming referendum.

The bête noire of the European political elite was speaking at a Guardian Live event at Central Hall in Westminster, central London, on Friday night.

He said: “You have a referendum coming up. My message is simple yet rich: those of us who disdain the democratic deficit in Brussels, those of us who detest the authoritarianism of a technocracy which is incompetent and contemptuous of democracy, those of us who are most critical of Europe have a moral duty to stay in Europe, fight for it, and democratise it.”

But Varoufakis also likened the eurozone to a sausage: “If you knew what was in it, you wouldn’t touch it.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...kis-says-britons-should-vote-to-stay-in-union

he has a lot to say about the refugee crisis as Greece is arguably suffering the worst burden at the moment:
eg "“The invasion of Iraq was a great example of the inanity of the west. Syria and Iraq were very fragile states but by creating the rupture, it propelled a shockwave.”"

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...urope-is-being-broken-apart-by-refugee-crisis

 

[cottonweaver]

Cameron met with Hollande today -

"Britain is to step up intelligence sharing with France and other European partners.
'We must do more to tackle the threat of returning foreign fighters,' Mr Cameron added, including strengthening Europe's external borders.
'We must without further delay finally agree the rules that will enable us to share passenger name records. It is frankly ridiculous that we can get more information from countries outside the EU than we can from each other.
'And we must do more to crack down on the trade in illegal firearms to stop them getting into the hands of terrorists who are determined to wreak such misery with them.'

The fact that it takes 130 to die and untold misery for their families to take on board the three BIBs - you couldn't make it up could you!

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ee-step-fight-against-ISIS.html#ixzz3sKCtr4ld
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[Momoffourboys]

'Complete failure': French intelligence grapples with fallout of Paris attacks

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/1...lligence-grapples-with-fallout-paris-attacks/

 

[cottonweaver]

There have been lots of comments from British public on the issue of Turkish people traffickers for many months now: Why is nothing done at point of origin.
Turkey clearly does not want to police this situation......their coastguards turn a blind eye to it
BUT this is the "largest mass migration since the end of World War II"

By day a tourist paradise, by night a migrant hell: The pretty Turkish beach where people smugglers send families to their deaths
By night, people smuggling gangs work under the cover of darkness to send migrants out on flimsy boats

Here, traffickers inflate the boats, which they buy in bulk for £60 each and bring on vans from Bodrum during the day.
A trafficker named Mohammed told me that he sent out about six boats a night ‘whatever the weather’. In his 20s and from Pakistan, he added: ‘The Syrians, they want to go, so we send them. They do not want to stay here in Turkey.

Another trafficker, a 33-year-old Syrian based in Bodrum, said the stretch of coastline near Ali Hoca Point had become a favourite for the smuggling gangs. ‘There are 100 launching points along there, and – so far – the authorities have not caught up with us. We charge £1,200 for a place on a boat, but nothing for children under ten.’

The traffickers here on this beach are Pakistani and Syrian, operating for maximum profit. They do not care about the migrants.’
Celal said the coastguard was not cracking down hard on the traffickers. ‘This Monday, I saw a man on a jet-ski trying to smuggle Syrians to other side. He was spotted by the coastguard, and was told to go back to the beach.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...glers-send-families-deaths.html#ixzz3sKFKyYMl

Turkey's rationale, off the record - not their official line

Turkey, for its part, said that it had been overwhelmed by refugee arrivals and that stopping the flow of migrants was impossible.

“We have taken in nearly two million Syrian refugees while Europe has taken in a bare minimum,” said a government official, speaking on the condition of anonymity under government protocol. “It’s only natural that the refugees seek illegal routes to get there.
More than three million Syrians have fled their country’s civil war over the last four years, and experts have called it the largest mass migration since the end of World War II

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/w...-refugees-and-smugglers-to-turkish-coast.html