FRANCE - Truck drives into crowd celebrating Bastille Day in Nice, 2016 *Guilty*

[i.b.nora]

Additional sourcing on the information about a wreck related to falling asleep at the wheel:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...river-who-killed-84-on-french-riviera-was-cr/

If I'm not mistaken, both this account and the one in the DM were reported relatively early.

Again, the sourcing of the information is vague.

It's not clear if the information came from BFM TV and/or a neighbor, or from somewhere else.

Also a possibility that the DM source is The Telegraph, or vice versa. Could be circular sourcing with no indication of original sourcing.

Not something I would pick up as a fact with nothing more solid behind it that I'm seeing at this point.

Pet peeve of mine, but YMMV.

Precisely.

 

[dotr]

Hoping this Canadian university student is located soon.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...nt-missing-after-nice-terror-attack-1.3681022

A student from MacEwan University in Edmonton on a trip to Nice, France, is believed to be missing after Thursday's terror attacks that killed more than 80 people.

Five students and one faculty member from the university's school of business are attending an innovation program at the European Innovation Academy in Nice, France.

 

[Everyday Grace]

Precisely.

Lol. Like minds once again, i.b.nora.

 

[dotr]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/nice-attack-day-after-peter-armstrong-1.3680720

Silence, grief loom over scene of deadly attack in Nice
People come to lay flowers and mourn the dozens of lives lost on Promenade des Anglais

The street is still completely blocked off, and police are stationed at every corner. Police and military boats are in the water off the famous rock beaches.
At every corner, small clutches of people stand looking toward the scene. As they approach, they walk softly and speak in hushed tones. Many tuck small bouquets of flowers into the barricades or light a candle and pause for a moment.

 

[Elley Mae]

Jean-Jacques Urvoas told reporters in Paris that Mohamed Bouhlel "was at the center of several procedures but was sentenced for only one incident" earlier this year.

He said Bouhlel was placed on probation after throwing a wooden pallet at another driver during a confrontation.

The minister said Bouhlel was handed a suspended sentence since he had never been convicted. He was under the obligation of presenting himself at a Nice police station once a week and posting bail. He respected these obligations rigorously."

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie..._LATEST?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

 

[bluesneakers]

Deleted.

 

[bluesneakers]

Unbelievably sad. A completely senseless act of violence by one barbarian: so many lives lost, destroyed, altered forever.

One little boy who survived, but who will likely be scarred by what he saw, asked afterwards--"am I dreaming? Is this a dream?"

No, not a dream. A nightmare. How do we explain to our children that monsters are real, without robbing them of their innocence?

Oh my god.

When the whole word is a war zone we don't have the luxury of protecting their innocence. Or maybe we do. Maybe it's worth it to protect them? I don't know. If my daughter were that young I have no idea how I would explain any of this or if I would.

 

[bluesneakers]

Hoping this Canadian university student is located soon.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...nt-missing-after-nice-terror-attack-1.3681022

I have friends traveling in France right now - two were in Nice last week - and last night I was so thankful for Facebook. I imagine a lot of people were and I can't help but think of the many people waiting for friends who never checked in.

This is just too much and it's become too familiar.

Swear words and tears.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Snip

He was not known by the Tunisian authorities to hold hard-line views, and had held a French residence permit for the past 10 years without obtaining French nationality, Tunisian sources said.

Neighbours in the residential neighbourhood in northern Nice where Bouhlel lived said he had a stern personality and did not mingle with others.

His home town of Msaken is about 10km (six miles) outside the coastal city of Sousse, where a gunman killed 38 people, mostly British holidaymakers, on a beach a year ago.

Many residents of the town have migrated to Nice, where the Tunisian community numbers about 130,000 people, according to Tunisian state news agency TAP.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/07/nice-attack-driver-lorry-attack-160715155251020.html

 

[Momoffourboys]

Terror in Nice: Details of victims Emerge

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/07/15/terror-nice-details-victims-emerge/87117706/

 

[Momoffourboys]

Many Muslims reportedly killed in Nice truck attack

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/Ne...s-reportedly-killed-in-Nice-truck-attack.html

 

[Elley Mae]

It was a reply to a comment supporting how Israel operates. Should the rest of the world follow their plan? This was in the news yesterday so I'm not so sure.

There have been plenty of posts discussing how countries deal with terrorism and ideas about what might or might not work. I think we all agree something needs to be done - but who knows what the answer is. Not me.

bbm, If only.

 

[ZaZara]

AFP news agency ‏@AFP

#BREAKING Nice attacker 'probably linked to radical Islam': French PM


[video=twitter;754017215284965377]https://twitter.com/AFP/status/754017215284965377[/video]

 

[x_files]

AFP news agency ‏@AFP

#BREAKING Nice attacker 'probably linked to radical Islam': French PM


[video=twitter;754017215284965377]https://twitter.com/AFP/status/754017215284965377[/video]

probably?
I think he was indeed radicalized even if he never communicated with anyone in any terrorist group. He is a radical terrorist.

 

[gregjrichards]

probably?
I think he was indeed radicalized even if he never communicated with anyone in any terrorist group. He is a radical terrorist.

That's the problem we face all it takes for a man or woman to become a radicalised terrorist with extremist views is a computer and an Internet connection.

 

[rsd1200]

Well Obama stands with France. His prayers go out to y'all. Will he/we do anything? Nope.


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Uhm, we've been trying to help France, and basically have a good relationship with them, but France has to implement things themselves. The president has pretty much said that the US is ‘at war’ with these terrorist organizations, ISIS, and others, and for that matter, that we've been at war with them since 9/11. I don't see how anyone could think that we haven't been at war with terrorists quite honestly. We've had our troops over there for year upon year now.

 

[gregjrichards]

Hoping this Canadian university student is located soon.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...nt-missing-after-nice-terror-attack-1.3681022

It's terrible for all the families of those unaccounted for. A student called Nick Lesley from University of California Berkeley is also missing.

"Nick Leslie, a University of California at Berkeley student studying abroad in France, is missing after the Nice attack. His uncle is going from hospital to hospital in the city trying to find him. WSJ’s Jason Bellini reports."

http://www.wsj.com/video/american-s...ack/8A263FC6-60FF-45ED-AD24-6E7D2B44B97D.html

 

[human]

Jean-Jacques Urvoas told reporters in Paris that Mohamed Bouhlel "was at the center of several procedures but was sentenced for only one incident" earlier this year.

He said Bouhlel was placed on probation after throwing a wooden pallet at another driver during a confrontation.

The minister said Bouhlel was handed a suspended sentence since he had never been convicted. He was under the obligation of presenting himself at a Nice police station once a week and posting bail. He respected these obligations rigorously."

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie..._LATEST?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

France is very lenient to their criminals. It works most of the time.

 

[human]

Okay, this might seem like a tangent, but....my mind needs to rest somewhere other than the graphic images and coverage.

Neighbors have mentioned that the killer was impolite and didn't hold doors open for others. We all know that type. This is NOT to imply that people without manners are therefore criminals....but it does show the importance, imo, of teaching our kids manners.

When you open the door consistently for others, when you smile and exchange pleasantries with neighbors, when you give off the demeanor of thoughtfulness, this becomes habit. Manners help shape your character and influence your outlook on life. I want my kids to be thoughtful, caring people...and ONE way (of many ways) to instill those character traits is to teach manners.

And that goes for us too - we grown-ups need to show manners - even when it seems that the culture around us is losing the habits of good manners. Maybe one teeny tiny thing we can do in response to these tragedies is to spruce up our own manners. Americans are a friendly people - so let's support our culture and BE NICE to someone today...a stranger, a neighbor, a friend, a relative, a pet, the environment. Just be nice.

And, please, don't tell me this doesn't matter in the face of terrorism. I know my friendly smile means nothing to someone who hates me. But, it matters to me. And it's something active I can do besides reading news reports and worrying our world is too much of a mess to fix.

Just my personal, dorky, heart-felt opinion.

No, this is excellent, I have retired to a foreign country where I do not speak the language and the people are not white. You cannot imagine how wonderful it is that people smile, wave, holler out my name. And sometimes they invite hubby and me to dinners, Chrisfmas, birthday celebrations, etc. Those little things change our lives. Really, just a smile, honk or wave is so fabulous.

 

[faw720]

On CNN last night they had a security guy give similiar advice he works for the Israelia Security team. I think it's time we all started taking this more seriously.

I'm glad someone brought up Israel. I think it would be beneficial for all civilized nations to come together to consult with them on how better to prevent terror attacks. They live in one of the most volatile areas in the entire world, totally surrounded by people who would like to wipe them from the face of the earth. Of course, over the years they have suffered many terrorist attacks, but in recent years they seem to have drastically reduced the number of attacks quite successfully. They have had more experience than any other nation in learning how to protect themselves & their citizens. I do not know this for a fact, but I suspect that one of the things that they do is profiling. I'm sure some here will slam me for mentioning profiling & so be it. When the enemy looks like a duck, walks like a duck. & quacks like a duck, it very likely is a duck. One reason that I believe they profile is that I have been to Israel. It is literally easier for me to get into & out of Israel than it is to get out of & back into the U.S. I suspect the Israelis have not had a terrorism problem involving elderly, gray haired grannies. The U.S. is so busy doing security checks on everyone that they fail to notice the really bad guys. I haven't traveled abroad recently but the last time I was in Europe the only country where I was scrutinized closely was in Spain.

This all JMO, IMO.