FRANCE - Truck drives into crowd celebrating Bastille Day in Nice, 2016 *Guilty*

[DexterMorgan]

From Dotr post Hi Dotr!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...lice-vans-blocking-promenade-withdrawn-hour1/

Hi Cariis. You're back. Much love.

 

[Momoffourboys]

So freaking sad.

RIP :rose:

 

[Momoffourboys]

Sadly, too long to list. Victims of Nice terror attack.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/nice-victims-sisters-holiday-die-attack-40649260

 

[Momoffourboys]

Get your tissues. Another list. With photos.

Who are the victims?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36805164

 

[bluesneakers]

From Dotr post Hi Dotr!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...lice-vans-blocking-promenade-withdrawn-hour1/

Is this his grindr picture?

 

[CARIIS]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ruck-driver-who-killed-84-named-as-loner-fre/

I dont get folks being angry at govt over there. IMO he was amazing during the second attack - he did stuff within hours.

I would hoaever, like to know , if true, a bit more about the vans (for some reason I dont think it is true - but dont know why!!!) being moved.

Anyone heard any more about this other than it supposedly happened.

It just feels like if true, it would have more rounds on media....moo

 

[HMSHood]

France has way too many terrorist attacks. One was bad enough.

Who is the Nice terror attack suspect? Everything we know so far about Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ce-terror-attacker-everything-we-know-so-far/

This one caught my attention.

One 40-year-old neighbour, who would only give her first name, Jasmine, said: "He was rude and a bit weird.

"We would hold the door open for him and he would just blank [us]. He kept himself to himself, but would always rant about his wife. He had marital problems and would tell people in the local cafe. He scared my children though."

His ranting would suggest Bouhlel is a constant complainer and very likely an injustice collector. Most likely a vicarious injustice collector, which is all too common with terrorists. Injustice collectors tend to be complainers as they always have some grievance. They are highly negative in nature. Many people avoid them like with Bouhlel because they are so negative people. Injustice collectors are very unhappy and resentful as they are extremely envious of others. It is always about them as they are not pleasant people to be around. They want everyone else to be unhappy like them. They are professional victims that rage at the world. They are perpetual victims and feel like society marginalizes them. They blame everyone else, but themselves.

On Wound Collectors
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/spycatcher/201509/wound-collectors

The Dangerous Injustice Collector: Behaviors of Someone Who Never Forgets, Never Forgives, Never Lets Go, and Strikes Back!
http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/pdf/10.1089/vio.2014.1509

Psychology of Terrorism - National Criminal Justice Reference Service
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/208552.PDF

Identifying The Next Mass Murderer—Before It’s Too Late
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...ntifying-the-next-mass-murderer-it-s-too-late

Websleuth Radio Interview Of Tina Meier describing Lori Drew
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleuths/2013/09/30/tricias-true-crime-radio-adult-cyber-bullying

Starting at the 20:40 mark from September 2013. Tina Meier is describing Lori Drew as a very talkative person who complained nonstop. She is described as a very unhappy and bitter person. If one was not paying attention, Meier would be describing Mohamed Bouhlel right there. Meier's description of Lori Drew applies well with Micah Johnson, Omar Mateen, Christy Sheats, Syed Farook, Abdelhamid Abaaoud, Mohamed Atta, Yoselyn Ortega, Elliot Rodger, Adam Lanza, Eric Harris, Dylann Roof, Betty Broderick, or Jodi Arias.

Lori Drew is a vicarious injustice collector as she felt her daughter was being persecuted and ridiculed by Megan Meier. That puts her in the same class with Mohamed Bouhlel, Gertrude Baniszewski, Ted Kaczynski, Osama bin Laden, Abubakar Shekau, and Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. Only difference between Drew and them (excluding Baniszewski), they are mass killers.

New Yorker-Friend Game
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/01/21/friend-game

 

[gregjrichards]

From Dotr post Hi Dotr!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...lice-vans-blocking-promenade-withdrawn-hour1/

It worries me the amount of media attention these monsters get in case it inspires others to go out with bang like they did. I get the media interest in him and what drove him to it but it is concerning I don't want copycats around the globe. This terrorist attack has really frightened me all it took was one guy and a rented lorry. There was no terrorist training required, no bomb making skills, no hijacking a plane, no large sums of terrorist cash required. How on earth can a repeat of this be prevented?

Thank you for the update about Denis's mum being found please post any news about their condition and of course any news about his dad. I'm very sorry Nicolas Leslie is one of the deceased I feared this would be the case.

 

[gregjrichards]

Get your tissues. Another list. With photos.

Who are the victims?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36805164

Thank you for posting this it is much more appropriate to know a little about the victims putting them together on a list with no additional information seems so impersonal. These people need to be remembered and the evil responsible forgotten.

 

[asac]

This may have already been shared but Nick Leslie has been found...dead.

http://www.eastbaytimes.com/breaking-news/ci_30137796/cal-student-nick-leslie-found-days-after-nice

I'm sorry to hear

 

[ZaZara]

http://internacional.elpais.com/internacional/2016/07/16/actualidad/1468694195_012770.html


The president of the Muslim Community of Les Alpes Maritimes (UNAM), Aissaoui Otmane admits in a telephone conversation that the more unstable, fragile and depressed a person is, "the easier it will be to radicalizar him quickly." "So they do, I can assure you that as Iman. But I am also sure that this man has not set foot in any of the 30 mosques in the area in which we are present. I cannot know if he had links with some Salafi branch, because they are not associated or have mosques. But there is no need for them to have these here, today, through the Internet, you can radicalize someone being 10,000 kilometers away from him."


BBM


El Pais still insists on the mental instability of the murderer. The only proof of this that they have sofar, and everybody is repeating themselves and copying this, is a statement from a psychiatrist from 2004. Lovely stigma! See a psychiatrist in 2004 and it will stick to you for the rest of your days.
Nobody seems to question the validity of this, nobody asks if 2004 isn't 12 years ago and if 12 years isn't quite a long time. Or if there was a second opinion that confirmed the earlier diagnosis.

Since 2004, MLB migrated to France, grew a lot of muscle, got married, had a family, worked as a truck driver and saved enough money to send his father 84.000 pounds despite the divorce. Do the math: to save 84.000 in 12 years, you have to save 7000 per year on average, or over 500 per month from your income as a truck driver on top of your monthly expenses (including wine, smoke and loose women). If he managed to accumulate that money through other means, apparently his condition did not prevent him from doing that either.

Upon the whole, he did not do badly at all for someone with such a 'diagnosis'.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Thousands have marked a minute's silence on the beachfront in the French city of Nice where an attacker in a lorry killed 84 people on Thursday.



http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36823431

 

[Elley Mae]

Lorry Killer's String Of Lovers In Spotlight

http://news.sky.com/story/lorry-killers-string-of-lovers-in-spotlight-10504967

Officers are contacting a string of Bouhlel's partners, including a male pensioner described by French media as his "principle lover".

Examination of his computer has also revealed that Bouhlel often viewed propaganda websites and videos of beheadings.

Meanwhile, it is reported that Bouhlel's estranged wife was planning to go to the fireworks display with their three children.

But she pulled out at the eleventh hour for "personal reasons".

bbm

 

[Momoffourboys]

WATCH: Staggering video claims to show Nice lorry attacker being captured ALIVE

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...aiej-Bouhlel-captured-alive-claims-video-ISIS

 

[Momoffourboys]

Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel, a 31-year-old delivery driver, was shot dead by police on Thursday night after careering along a packed seafront promenade in Nice for about 2km, zigzagging in order to run over as many victims as possible.

His brother Jabeur told Reuters in Tunisia that Mohamed had called him for a final time on Thursday afternoon and sent a picture of himself among the crowds in the southern French city. “That last day he said he was in Nice with his European friends to celebrate the national holiday,” Jabeur said, adding that in the photo “he seemed very happy and pleased, he was laughing a lot.”
Reuters could not verify the existence of the photograph, which he declined to share.

http://www.news.com.au/world/europe...d/news-story/3e7310be31d590810eea90d6a8524417

 

[Momoffourboys]

Faith in government drops, politicians jeered as France mourns Nice victims

Confidence in the capacity of Francois Hollande's government to combat terrorism has plummeted in the wake of the truck attack that killed 84 people in the southern French coastal city of Nice, an opinion poll published on Monday suggested.

The poll published in Le Figaro newspaper showed 33 percent of respondents were confident in the current leadership's ability to meet the challenge, down sharply from ratings of 50 percent upwards in the wake of two major attacks last year.

In Nice, Prime Minister Manuel Valls joined thousands packing the seafront, scene of the Bastille day carnage, for a minute of silence in homage to the victims.

There were jeers as he and local politicians departed. BFMTV reported that there were placards in the crowd calling for Hollande to resign.



http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-attacks-nice-idUSKCN0ZY11E

 

[ZaZara]

https://youtu.be/MOeWw4rQn_w


Footage of truck seen up front, driving straight into the crowd, via @TPOnl
The horror. These snap snap sounds are bones, not bullets.

[video=twitter;754975842191732736]https://twitter.com/TPOnl/status/754975842191732736[/video]

 

[human]

http://internacional.elpais.com/internacional/2016/07/16/actualidad/1468694195_012770.html


The president of the Muslim Community of Les Alpes Maritimes (UNAM), Aissaoui Otmane admits in a telephone conversation that the more unstable, fragile and depressed a person is, "the easier it will be to radicalizar him quickly." "So they do, I can assure you that as Iman. But I am also sure that this man has not set foot in any of the 30 mosques in the area in which we are present. I cannot know if he had links with some Salafi branch, because they are not associated or have mosques. But there is no need for them to have these here, today, through the Internet, you can radicalize someone being 10,000 kilometers away from him."


BBM


El Pais still insists on the mental instability of the murderer. The only proof of this that they have sofar, and everybody is repeating themselves and copying this, is a statement from a psychiatrist from 2004. Lovely stigma! See a psychiatrist in 2004 and it will stick to you for the rest of your days.
Nobody seems to question the validity of this, nobody asks if 2004 isn't 12 years ago and if 12 years isn't quite a long time. Or if there was a second opinion that confirmed the earlier diagnosis.

Since 2004, MLB migrated to France, grew a lot of muscle, got married, had a family, worked as a truck driver and saved enough money to send his father 84.000 pounds despite the divorce. Do the math: to save 84.000 in 12 years, you have to save 7000 per year on average, or over 500 per month from your income as a truck driver on top of your monthly expenses (including wine, smoke and loose women). If he managed to accumulate that money through other means, apparently his condition did not prevent him from doing that either.

Upon the whole, he did not do badly at all for someone with such a 'diagnosis'.

Steroids?

 

[Elley Mae]

Paris prosecutor: Nice attacker searched online for Islamic State

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...islamic-state-puzzles-investigators/87239960/

Paris prosecutor François Molins said Monday that the truck driver who killed 84 people here last week had expressed support for the Islamic State and searched online for information about the Orlando attack on a gay nightclub.

Searches of Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel's computer and phone showed online searches related to the Islamic State, other jihadi groups and violent images, Molins said.

 

[dotr]

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...rror-isis-lone-wolf-strikes-distinction-fades

There is the inevitable search for evidence that these are thoroughly organised murders – leaving behind an email trail, evidence of contact and warnings of intent on social media. There is an expectation of a familiar path to radicalisation or membership of a group. It should have a coherent justification.

This is the model of 9/11 and al-Qaida: violence marked by a certain fastidiousness of purpose, and long in the planning. That path was understood: individuals were recruited, travelled to training camps in foreign warzones and drawn into plans that were sometimes years in the making. The new kind of outrage, though, appears very different.

What matters is the fact of the act alone and its power to frighten, divide and destabilise

A key innovation of Isis has been to reverse the polarity of responsibility: encouraging acts of violence that it accepts as bloody tributes thrown at its feet. That has best been summed up in statements by Isis spokesmen such as Abu Muhammad al-Adnani, who in 2014 encouraged ad hoc attacks using whatever tools are easily available, including vehicles.

And while Isis is organised in places where it is strong, and is capable of setting up cells outside its own territory, it has also recognised that all it needs to do to widen its impact is to provide a lethal context for attacks – a convenient peg for the angry and alienated.


The crucial point that many have missed is that it does not actually matter to Isis whether there is any real connection: whether the new “soldiers” it claims after the fact are more disturbed than ideological. What matters is the fact of the act alone and its power to frighten, divide and destabilise – and that the attack is understood to be inspired by Isis.