GA GA - Jenna Van Gelderen, 25, Atlanta, 18 Aug 2017 #1

[Elainera]

The house was described as being in 'disarray'. Has any more information been provided about it? We know about the missing tapestry but has it been stated anywhere what else was amiss?

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wvangelderen said upthread that nothing else appeared to missing from the house.

Ugh the new info about the phone and that number has me very worried ...

 

[Stanly]

At 11:50 pm thought ? The number for the pocket dial was tied to an Instagram account as well that leads me.to believe something more is up. Also metro pcs number as well. Metro pcs did say her no she was not the primary account holder as well.

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Would you say all this new info uncovered is out of character? From looking at her facebook account i would say so, though i dont know her of course. Something doesnt add up here [emoji19]

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[abstr]

I am praying for you, your family and Jenna.

 

[subie_climber]

Wait, so are you thinking this person provided a phone and said something like, "When I call, you answer ..." type thing? Like maybe they talked her into something like this and made it sound harmless ...

Ugh this is awful. Atlanta is one of the worst cities for trafficking. Really hoping that's not the case. Glad to hear there is a PI on the case.


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Yup that's what im thinking . Will see what the p.i comes up with

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[Elainera]

Yup that's what im thinking . Will see what the p.i comes up with

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That is terrifying wvangelderen!

What is LE saying regarding this theory?

How are your parents holding up?

 

[rpgman]

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[subie_climber]

Have you gone to her apt and sorted thru things? Found anything at all that would lead you to believe she's living a double life? Is her only job at the pet store after graduating college recently? How does she pay for her apt and bills from working retail ? Do your parents help her? Do you know her friends?

How did you find out about the second phone? And wasn't it locked? Does she have a laptop or tablet?

Her room mate won't allow us to, need the local police to go over there, but its been a week now and they still have not nor spoken to the room mate (according to them friday)

 

[noseynellie]

Her room mate won't allow us to, need the local police to go over there, but its been a week now and they still have not nor spoken to the room mate (according to them friday)

What?! This is crazy. What kind of roommate won't allow family in to search for info to help find someone missing? And why are the police not jumping on this? If what you suspect is accurate, Jenna is a victim. There's no blame or guilt for anyone else and they should be pursuing all avenues.


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[Dixie811]

Wvangelderen is the roommate not someone the family is acquainted with? How did Jenna get acquainted with this person and decide to live with them? It seems so shady that they won't let you search the apartment. Makes me wonder what the roommate is involved in.

 

[subie_climber]

Wvangelderen is the roommate not someone the family is acquainted with? How did Jenna get acquainted with this person and decide to live with them? It seems so shady that they won't let you search the apartment. Makes me wonder what the roommate is involved in.

We just don't know on this. We tried to have her tell us but she would not. Really starting to wonder about him as well and if he maybe tied to something in this

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[adot0902]

Wvangelderen, I am so sorry you and your family are going through this.

Any chance we can get a little more information on the tapesty, I've been searching tapestry's for about 2 hours and I can't find anything even close. To me it looks like Anubis The Egyptian God, but I really have no idea. Can you give us a little more on the painting, is it originial, is it a replication, anything really. I've tried to reverse image search and had no such luck. Was there anything behind the frame?

Also anything you care to share about the roommate? I have some time today so if you want to message me some names I'd be happy to let you know what I find.

 

[JetsFan24]

Wvangelderen, I am so sorry you and your family are going through this.

Any chance we can get a little more information on the tapesty, I've been searching tapestry's for about 2 hours and I can't find anything even close. To me it looks like Anubis The Egyptian God, but I really have no idea. Can you give us a little more on the painting, is it originial, is it a replication, anything really. I've tried to reverse image search and had no such luck. Was there anything behind the frame?

Also anything you care to share about the roommate? I have some time today so if you want to message me some names I'd be happy to let you know what I find.

I haven't been able to locate this one but if you search Anubis Quilt you come up with some similar designs/pictures of something similar on both google and Pinterest.

 

[adot0902]

I haven't been able to locate this one but if you search Anubis Quilt you come up with some similar designs/pictures of something similar on both google and Pinterest.

I don't Pinterest, but I did see paintings kept coming up, you can't buy and sell on Pinterest can you? It's just like a DIY decorating site? I've been purposely avoiding to prevent an addiction. I'm trying to see what the value of the painting is just to get some idea. If she has a $400k tapestry she could be anywhere, versus if she has a $400 tapestry. Also one would be much easier to track down you would think..... I don't know I've ran out of other angles to sleuth at the moment. Any suggestions for me?

 

[subie_climber]

Wvangelderen, I am so sorry you and your family are going through this.

Any chance we can get a little more information on the tapesty, I've been searching tapestry's for about 2 hours and I can't find anything even close. To me it looks like Anubis The Egyptian God, but I really have no idea. Can you give us a little more on the painting, is it originial, is it a replication, anything really. I've tried to reverse image search and had no such luck. Was there anything behind the frame?

Also anything you care to share about the roommate? I have some time today so if you want to message me some names I'd be happy to let you know what I find.

The only thing I really know and have discussed with parents is that it is from my Grandfather / WWII era. Its not something we ever really talked about
.But I do know that it was quite faded, and had a lot of birds on it. Retrieving it isn't so much important, but rather if anyone had tried to sell it to a pawn shop / craigslist in the past few days

We have been looking through family photo albums to find any good picture of it

 

[Bently]

raying: that this gets in the media soon with her photo. Lots of media! Also, with information on where her apartment is, and naming it so folks in that complex start talking iykwim! They may not even know she is missing!

As with another case here in Atlanta/Stone Mountain, they received tips to find her car on a surveillance camera at a Rockbridge/Memorial Drive Shell Station. That tip came in through the media plastering her photograph on television, and someone calling in the tip soon after and LE getting the surveillance, and indeed it was her and her car.

So much time is passing without television coverage raying:

Also, can you can get help from crimestoppers? They have a local atlanta chapter. It's perhaps good to have when on media as they allow anonymous tips. 404-577-4877 is their local number to perhaps get the word out also and perhaps add a reward for information.

 

[adot0902]

The only thing I really know and have discussed with parents is that it is from my Grandfather / WWII era. Its not something we ever really talked about
.But I do know that it was quite faded, and had a lot of birds on it. Retrieving it isn't so much important, but rather if anyone had tried to sell it to a pawn shop / craigslist in the past few days

We have been looking through family photo albums to find any good picture of it

I've looked on Craigslist just in Atlanta and did not see anything even remotely similar. I've also looked through ebay and nothing. I'm not in Georgia, but if you have people asking how to help in the area, maybe send them to pawn shops with a picture of the tapestry? It's such an odd thing to take, they don't appear to be particularly valuable from that time period I've seen some range from approximately $1500 to $6000. But I've also seen them in the hundreds of dollars. I was giving it a value more in line with a Persian rug at first, but I think that was an incorrect assumption on my part. It's very beautiful and a cool piece but I don't think it has a ton of monetary value, other than possibly being sentimental, which you said it probably wasn't to her. I think the tapestry was to throw people off, nothing more nothing less, unfortunately.

 

[subie_climber]

raying: that this gets in the media soon with her photo. Lots of media! Also, with information on where her apartment is, and naming it so folks in that complex start talking iykwim! They may not even know she is missing!

As with another case here in Atlanta/Stone Mountain, they received tips to find her car on a surveillance camera at a Rockbridge/Memorial Drive Shell Station. That tip came in through the media plastering her photograph on television, and someone calling in the tip soon after and LE getting the surveillance, and indeed it was her and her car.

So much time is passing without television coverage raying:


Also, can you can get help from crimestoppers? They have a local atlanta chapter. It's perhaps good to have when on media as they allow anonymous tips. 404-577-4877 is their local number to perhaps get the word out also and perhaps add a reward for information.

Yeah, Im trying today to follow up with media if I can. They have all been contacting my dad and he has been meeting with the P.I and detectives

 

[Bently]

We just don't know on this. We tried to have her tell us but she would not. Really starting to wonder about him as well and if he maybe tied to something in this

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I alluded to this in an earlier post, but with the information on a male roommate that she would not speak about, and the mention of "traficking", do you guys need assistance in looking into "underground" type areas of the web for her photo that may have another name on it? I believe there are members here who in other cases were versed in searching that type of site that could do such for y'all and do a shout out if they did/did not find her photo. (I myself don't know how to do or I would)

Also, the lights were on in the house during the daytime? Or was the front porch light on when family member went there on Saturday. Referring to post #1 on this thread... The gal friend who spoke with her on Saturday, I wonder what time that was. And her friend who said she was going to lay down... what time was that in relation to when you went to the house.

So many questions from all of us, I don't expect you to answer all of them... perhaps just for you to ask LE / PI to look into?

Oh, I do have one question wvangelderen, did she no longer work at the pet store after February or so? Did she, at some time, stop working there? If so, did she have another job after that?

 

[Shiressleuth]

Is the tapestry frame the sort of thing that could be hung back on the wall by a man (by himself) of moderate to high strength? Or is it just simply I'm possible due to its length to do it without two people?

Hi all, my first post on this thread. So please excuse if my questions or statements have been covered later and I just have not read later on yet.
How do we know it was taken off the wall to remove it, then put back up and wiped, if fingerprints haven't been taken by LE yet? Also, is there a photo of the actual tapestry hanging on the wall in the background of a family pic for instance? Maybe even up on an Internet post where a perp may have seen it and noticed it was valuable? If there is any such pic could we perhaps see it. (I have read a similar one has been put on FB since) Do we now know it's value? Was it insured?

Ok back to reading the thread.

 

[subie_climber]

I alluded to this in an earlier post, but with the information on a male roommate that she would not speak about, and the mention of "traficking", do you guys need assistance in looking into "underground" type areas of the web for her photo that may have another name on it? I believe there are members here who in other cases were versed in searching that type of site that could do such for y'all and do a shout out if they did/did not find her photo. (I myself don't know how to do or I would)

Also, the lights were on in the house during the daytime? Or was the front porch light on when family member went there on Saturday. Referring to post #1 on this thread... The gal friend who spoke with her on Saturday, I wonder what time that was. And her friend who said she was going to lay down... what time was that in relation to when you went to the house.

So many questions from all of us, I don't expect you to answer all of them... perhaps just for you to ask LE / PI to look into?

Oh, I do have one question wvangelderen, did she no longer work at the pet store after February or so? Did she, at some time, stop working there? If so, did she have another job after that?

Definitely looking at this now from a trafficking stand point

She had a job back in Feb at the pet store but we found out through a friend she had been fired for theft at the store. Which is really not like her.
We found out large sums of money had been taken in total from various times from her register. She was arrested, and through the court case, we were able to have the sentence reduced to a misdemeanor. She would not tell us where the money went and that she was "framed" by a manager.
I am starting to think that maybe she did do this and paid one of these guys with the money.

She had been seeing a career coach / counselor every week as well to help get her on track to finding a new job and working with her mental illness / minor autism to help with work skills

Time line wise.
We know she left a friends place at 11pm friday to go home according to him
At 2 am (saturday) she sent a text to a friend saying she was laying down

I called at around 9:30 am and showed up at the house approx 10:30 am with the lights and tv still on