GA GA - Jenna Van Gelderen, 25, Atlanta, 18 Aug 2017 #1

[Jbunnatl]

That is a very fascinating connection. I wonder what kind of following the musician Ra has...

 

[FrozenPeach]

Could someone who liked his music thought the quilt was a good gift? Here's a link with a description of DJ Ra from 2014 http://atlanta.eventful.com/events/basscollision-atl-locals-house-w-dj-ra-zubah-/E0-001-071748140-5 and here's the Facebook event https://m.facebook.com/events/28627...gglMAA&usg=AFQjCNGLwLMV41cYxJpMYSWpHbCtI6F53A

without getting into ANY details the friends another user and I were concered about attend shows at venues the promoters he is listed as connected to manage or run. The other user can verify this. So I'm just throwing out that as a possibility: friends want to go to this show, want to take the quilt to show. I don't know, it doesn't explain all things but still want to present the idea.

 

[Pocono Sleuther]

Ok yikes. So after reading about the location of gas stations on the Find Jenna fb and putting a few other pieces of this case together, I believe I have a pretty reasonable theory. I'm not posting it because I don't have anything other than a news article which is unrelated to Jenna's case as of now. I will say that I'm very scared for Jenna at this point.

They haven't found her car. Is that right? And are Jenna's keys missing along with Jenna? I'll keep digging and praying. Sending love to her family and friends.


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[Shiressleuth]

I will keep my opinions and random thoughts to myself then until somebody somewhere can provide information on here for us to discuss.

Another telling off....

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If we have the timeline okayed by VI subie, especially with the times and whereabouts of any card purchases, that would be very helpful.
A telling off is better than a TO IMO.
:laughing:

 

[Henry2326]

I took all the locations mentioned in the comments of this link and mapped it. If you drove to all these locations it would only take 50 minutes to an hour. Relatively close and local to her parents home.

I would consider finding out if a person owns all these gas stations. I had a friend who's family owned several stations. He managed them and went to each everyday to see what was going on.

Possible that she knows this person and drove them around to the locations and had lunch during the drive. IMO

Very interesting comments with locations...

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=113846059289672&id=112894369384841&ref=content_filter

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[Gardener1850]

Is it confirmed that it was Jenna making purchases at the gas stations? (As opposed to someone else using her card)

 

[K.jill]

Are we allowed to discuss why someone might make multiple (4 possibly) gas station stops in one day - all at different stations? I'm curious what people think.

Even if using two cars (her mom's and her Mazda), that's a lot of driving for staying in a small area.


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The 1st thing that comes to mind that would involve several purchases from different gas stations is a purchase of gas. But if someone was doing this for nefarious reasons and took the time to stop at several different gas stations why would they use the same card for payment? Seems like they would do an atm withdrawal and then pay cash at each stop. Also, you would not have to do as much driving around as was done to stop at 4 to 5 different gas stations.
What else can you get at a gas station? Lottery tickets, beer, potato chips? Those things don't make sense to me either.

 

[Bently]

The 1st thing that comes to mind that would involve several purchases from different gas stations is a purchase of gas. But if someone was doing this for nefarious reasons and took the time to stop at several different gas stations why would they use the same card for payment? Seems like they would do an atm withdrawal and then pay cash at each stop. Also, you would not have to do as much driving around as was done to stop at 4 to 5 different gas stations.
What else can you get at a gas station? Lottery tickets, beer, potato chips? Those things don't make sense to me either.

Cash using a debit card ATM machine inside the gas station comes to mind, in those areas.

 

[Gardener1850]

The 1st thing that comes to mind that would involve several purchases from different gas stations is a purchase of gas. But if someone was doing this for nefarious reasons and took the time to stop at several different gas stations why would they use the same card for payment? Seems like they would do an atm withdrawal and then pay cash at each stop. Also, you would not have to do as much driving around as was done to stop at 4 to 5 different gas stations.
What else can you get at a gas station? Lottery tickets, beer, potato chips? Those things don't make sense to me either.

If her card was stolen someone might have been able to make small debit as credit purchases without a pin nor signature. It all depends on your bank and the store rules but sometimes small transactions under a certain amount are allowed. That's why I asked if it was verified to be Jenna at the gas stations.

 

[Stanly]

Please don't, my stupid trying to help and posting is just off on this case. I'm sorry.

I"m so sorry that you thought I was telling you off! I need to take a break I guess. The other day I merely posted rules, and they were deleted. I had no idea I was coming across as telling folks off. That is baaaaaaaaaaaaaad on my part and I apologize.

With access to facebook and seeing more info elsewhere its easy for me to unintentionally break TOS so its good to be kept in line. But yeah, you did come across a little bit stern [emoji39]

I will try my very hardest to stick to the rules. I have to keep going back page by page to check what has been confirmed by the VI and with loads of unanswered questions im losing track. Im using the phone app so its not easy viewing. Being in the uk, due to timezone differences sometimes i have some catching up to do aswell and throw stuff out there that i dont realise has been confirmed we cannot discuss.

I understand when it comes to naming people etc... but i assumed that a page managed by the VI and set up as a 'help find....' page as opposed to a personal or business page was ok so sorry everyone.

I really dont want a TO [emoji26]

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[Paddleboarder]

If her card was stolen someone might have been able to make small debit as credit purchases without a pin nor signature. It all depends on your bank and the store rules but sometimes small transactions under a certain amount are allowed. That's why I asked if it was verified to be Jenna at the gas stations.

Excellent point Gardener. Perhaps going from station to station to fill up the tank before the card was declined and/or PIN needed. It's all so confusing I'm having trouble processing all of the info.


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[FrozenPeach]

The 1st thing that comes to mind that would involve several purchases from different gas stations is a purchase of gas. But if someone was doing this for nefarious reasons and took the time to stop at several different gas stations why would they use the same card for payment? Seems like they would do an atm withdrawal and then pay cash at each stop. Also, you would not have to do as much driving around as was done to stop at 4 to 5 different gas stations.
What else can you get at a gas station? Lottery tickets, beer, potato chips? Those things don't make sense to me either.

Back when I was a college kid in Atlanta and rolled with a different crew going to several gas stations might not be out of the question. Maybe the 1st is gas. 2nd one someone wants smokes, and others realize they want sandwiches. They buy the smokes but the others realize the sandwiches are **** so they drive to another gas station with better stuff. I remember a specific night exactly like this in Atlanta. All before going to the club... all on one card doesn't make sense, though. Cash withdrawal though... would be good to know how much $ was used at each stop. Were there multiple cars following and she had to pay for each of them? Sometimes with friends if one person doesn't have cash and the others do, they paid with card and others reimbursed with cash

what else goes on at gas stations? You meet people. Sometimes a small purchase is needed to make it ok to stay at the gas station if you're going to stand there for some reason or use a toilet. But with a lot of people with different needs in a car, multiple stops is possible. What was the timing between statons like, do we know? All in one day vs one or two hours is not at all unreasonable if the friend smokes or people want snacks. I've definitely stopped at gas stations with my friends just on a normal day maybe 3 in a day. Some really want coffee or snacks and really like gas station food/drinks/ice cream and if you drive further out like to Conyers or Alpharetta needing gas would make sense...

plus gas stations are open at night for these things when less restaurants are

 

[Stanly]

Would the PI have checked all this out by now?

With regards to the cctv at the stations.

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[Bit of hope]

Ok yikes. So after reading about the location of gas stations on the Find Jenna fb and putting a few other pieces of this case together, I believe I have a pretty reasonable theory. I'm not posting it because I don't have anything other than a news article which is unrelated to Jenna's case as of now. I will say that I'm very scared for Jenna at this point.

They haven't found her car. Is that right? And are Jenna's keys missing along with Jenna? I'll keep digging and praying. Sending love to her family and friends.


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Please if you say A, say B too. This sounds like some kind of cliffhanger....I would like to here your theory Pocono Sleuther.

 

[Bently]

Back when I was a college kid in Atlanta and rolled with a different crew going to several gas stations might not be out of the question. Maybe the 1st is gas. 2nd one someone wants smokes, and others realize they want sandwiches. They buy the smokes but the others realize the sandwiches are **** so they drive to another gas station with better stuff. I remember a specific night exactly like this in Atlanta. All before going to the club... all on one card doesn't make sense, though. Cash withdrawal though... would be good to know how much $ was used at each stop. Were there multiple cars following and she had to pay for each of them? Sometimes with friends if one person doesn't have cash and the others do, they paid with card and others reimbursed with cash

what else goes on at gas stations? You meet people. Sometimes a small purchase is needed to make it ok to stay at the gas station if you're going to stand there for some reason or use a toilet. But with a lot of people with different needs in a car, multiple stops is possible. What was the timing between statons like, do we know? All in one day vs one or two hours is not at all unreasonable if the friend smokes or people want snacks. I've definitely stopped at gas stations with my friends just on a normal day maybe 3 in a day. Some really want coffee or snacks and really like gas station food/drinks/ice cream and if you drive further out like to Conyers or Alpharetta needing gas would make sense...

plus gas stations are open at night for these things when less restaurants are

Knowing if the gas stations visited were on the way to/from the townhouse/midtown/moms house/her apartment and the times matching up with the google locales/times from phone would be helpful. Especially all on a map with times.

 

[K.jill]

Please if you say A, say B too. This sounds like some kind of cliffhanger....I would like to here your theory Pocono Sleuther.

Yes, Pocono Sleuther,
If you can share part of your theory that would be great. I know you probably cannot share everything because of TOS. I have read everything I can and brainstormed and cannot come up with a reasonable theory.

 

[Shiressleuth]

The 1st thing that comes to mind that would involve several purchases from different gas stations is a purchase of gas. But if someone was doing this for nefarious reasons and took the time to stop at several different gas stations why would they use the same card for payment? Seems like they would do an atm withdrawal and then pay cash at each stop. Also, you would not have to do as much driving around as was done to stop at 4 to 5 different gas stations.
What else can you get at a gas station? Lottery tickets, beer, potato chips? Those things don't make sense to me either.

Can you buy OTC medications at gas stations ? E.g. in uk we can. We are limited to how many can be purchased though wherever we buy them. Anything with codeine in, for instance, is limited to 16 per person only in the uk usually.

 

[flourish]

Can you buy OTC medications at gas stations ? E.g. in uk we can. We are limited to how many can be purchased though wherever we buy them. Anything with codeine in, for instance, is limited to 16 per person only in the uk usually.

We can't buy anything with codeine without a prescription.

 

[Steleheart]

I will keep my opinions and random thoughts to myself then until somebody somewhere can provide information on here for us to discuss.

Another telling off....

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With access to facebook and seeing more info elsewhere its easy for me to unintentionally break TOS so its good to be kept in line. But yeah, you did come across a little bit stern [emoji39]

I will try my very hardest to stick to the rules. I have to keep going back page by page to check what has been confirmed by the VI and with loads of unanswered questions im losing track. Im using the phone app so its not easy viewing. Being in the uk, due to timezone differences sometimes i have some catching up to do aswell and throw stuff out there that i dont realise has been confirmed we cannot discuss.

I understand when it comes to naming people etc... but i assumed that a page managed by the VI and set up as a 'help find....' page as opposed to a personal or business page was ok so sorry everyone.

I really dont want a TO [emoji26]

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I'd like to help on this topic. it often gets frustrating making a point when you are told you are doing it wrong. The only person you should hear that from is a Member with Mod or Admin in their Title .

We generally try to keep that in mind, but it gets difficult in a busy thread.

2 things that apply - if someone makes a member feel unwelcome please ALERT the post.and do not reply.

If someone thinks that a member is not following TOS please ALERT the post and do not reply.

To review the Rules Just click.

Also in there is dealing with fellow posters and "Social Media rules - what is allowed and not allowed"

Y'all are great! :seeya:

 

[Bit of hope]

Is there a way to ignore certain posts?