GA - Kendrick Johnson, 17, Suspicious Death, Jan. 10/11, 2013, #1

[PoeticJustice]

How would he be involved in it if it happened in minutes and he was verified to be somewhere else at the time? That's like the definition of alibi. Are you saying the other kid orchestrated a hit? Serious question.

The alibi itself is weak, IMO. What was he doing? why would KJ's parents point out this kid specifically, and boom - he has an alibi and it's that he was on the other side of the school? If they wanted a rock solid alibi they should have just said he wasn't even at school...There are reportedly tapes that show other students in the gym at the time KJ was there so who's to say this other boy didn't make sure he was somewhere else while KJ was being murdered? Like I said, I believe there are more people than only a handful know are involved and I think someone will crack. Somebody has to have a mom, dad, or family friend high up there trying to keep the school and those involved from inevitably investigated.

Personally I think this has something to do with a rivalry...or school yard confrontations, disgruntled teammates or something...

 

[Flossie JMO]

He had long dreadlocks - just a descriptor of how much blood there was. What are you thinking?

I don't know what to think. Yes he had long dreads. Not sure that the mention of dreads was a descriptor about the amount of blood? Can you please expand on that thought? Thanks in advance.

 

[PoeticJustice]

It's a law.

So? If this video has content pertaining to his murder they get hold on to it without a care because it's a law? Because the minors parents in it won't consent to it being shown? Gee I wonder why.

 

[Flossie JMO]

It's a law.

Jmo, not sure how clear issues surrounding laws are, and following of such laws, are in this case. Jmo

 

[Karmady]

The alibi itself is weak, IMO. What was he doing? why would KJ's parents point out this kid specifically, and boom - he has an alibi and it's that he was on the other side of the school? If they wanted a rock solid alibi they should have just said he wasn't even at school...There are reportedly tapes that show other students in the gym at the time KJ was there so who's to say this other boy didn't make sure he was somewhere else while KJ was being murdered? Like I said, I believe there are more people than only a handful know are involved and I think someone will crack. Somebody has to have a mom, dad, or family friend high up there trying to keep the school and those involved from inevitably investigated.

Personally I think this has something to do with a rivalry...or school yard confrontations, disgruntled teammates or something...

So if it's a grand conspiracy and they wanted a rock solid alibi, why as you suggest, did they NOT say he wasn't there at all?

 

[vlpate]

If that is actually LT commenting, wow. Brutal and gives more pause for thought rather than clarity imo.

Touchton never even hinted that there was a cover up or that LE did a poor job. What she wrote and has said does not oppose what's written in the article.

She said the lawyer King and the father were not telling the truth and she proved it.

As for the comments on that page, really? They are the exact reason WS has a policy against referencing or posting them. The same people there are on all the sites following that poor woman around. Great illustration of what happens when you try to tell the truth. They ain't got time for that!

 

[vlpate]

Jmo, not sure how clear issues surrounding laws are, and following of such laws, are in this case. Jmo

This has to do with the school, not law enforcement.

 

[Flossie JMO]

This has to do with the school, not law enforcement.

I quoted and responded to the post saying it's the law.

 

[vlpate]

So? If this video has content pertaining to his murder they get hold on to it without a care because it's a law? Because the minors parents in it won't consent to it being shown? Gee I wonder why.

There has to be a court order, which has been filed by the school attorney. The parents have always had access to the tape, as has the attorney. Surely anyone thinking conspiracy would not imagine the tape to even exist at this point.

The conspirators would have dropped it in acid, burned the school down, blamed the Sheriff. Instead the school filed a court order since King was busy trying to convince people he needed money to get the tape lol. Gotta hand it to them.

 

[Flossie JMO]

Touchton never even hinted that there was a cover up or that LE did a poor job. What she wrote and has said does not oppose what's written in the article.

She said the lawyer King and the father were not telling the truth and she proved it.

As for the comments on that page, really? They are the exact reason WS has a policy against referencing or posting them. The same people there are on all the sites following that poor woman around. Great illustration of what happens when you try to tell the truth. They ain't got time for that!

Never stated she said LE did a poor job nor did I say she referenced a cover up? Jmo nothing was proven. My post quoted one referencing the comments iirc. Allowed per TOS I believe.

 

[vlpate]

I quoted and responded to the post saying it's the law.

What I meant was, law enforcement are not holding the tapes from the family and the attorney. The way I understand it, the school has the tapes but are not allowed to release them to the family, or anyone, even the parents of the other students on the tape, without a court order.

I could be wrong, but that is my understanding.

 

[vlpate]

Jmo nothing was proven. My post quoted one referencing the comments iirc. Allowed per TOS I believe.

I didn't mean to imply you were violating TOS, you clearly were not - I was only pointing out *to no one in particular* the reason comments are not allowed, reading them reinforced that for me.

 

[vlpate]

It is. I have to sign or opt out of a release every year. In this situation there's no way in hello I'd be letting one single thing about my kid be released so they could potentially (some would say most assuredly) become a target of this type of ... well, whatever you want to call it. It's ugly.

Hopefully this case will not spawn that sort of collateral damage just for the pleasure of the evening news analysts.

 

[vlpate]

The alibi itself is weak, IMO. What was he doing? why would KJ's parents point out this kid specifically, and boom - he has an alibi and it's that he was on the other side of the school? If they wanted a rock solid alibi they should have just said he wasn't even at school...There are reportedly tapes that show other students in the gym at the time KJ was there so who's to say this other boy didn't make sure he was somewhere else while KJ was being murdered? Like I said, I believe there are more people than only a handful know are involved and I think someone will crack. Somebody has to have a mom, dad, or family friend high up there trying to keep the school and those involved from inevitably investigated.

Personally I think this has something to do with a rivalry...or school yard confrontations, disgruntled teammates or something...

I don't think anyone pointed this kid out specifically until recently, long after the investigation was done. Could be wrong - just not sure how they would target the kid on the tape if, as they've been telling anyone who will listen, they haven't seen the tape.

Besides, the phenomenal amount of cover up that would take.
Everyone in his class
Everyone in his class' relatives and friends
The instructor
The instructor's friends and family
The GBI
Sheriff's Department
Crime Scene personnel
Surveillance company
on and on - thousands of people would have to be complicit at the end of the day. This is why quickly concocted conspiracies never work. Well, I guess if they did work we wouldn't know about them.

 

[vlpate]

Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA)

By releasing the tapes the school could lose Federal funding as well.

 

[BeginnersLuck]

Just like LT said in the interview, all the information that she acquired is public record. I hate the way the attorney is twisting these facts and causing further division in the community.

They have been told they could come in and look at the tapes for months. Why haven't they done it? Why are they just asking them to release the tapes to the media, which the school cannot due because there are minors on the videos.

 

[vlpate]

Just like LT said in the interview, all the information that she acquired is public record. I hate the way the attorney is twisting things facts and causing further division in the community.

They have been told they could come in and look at the tapes for months. Why haven't they done it? Why are they just asking them to release the tapes to the media, which the school cannot due because there are minors in on the videos.

I have a feeling she is going to take a lot of heat for this. A courageous woman.

 

[pearl]

So? If this video has content pertaining to his murder they get hold on to it without a care because it's a law? Because the minors parents in it won't consent to it being shown? Gee I wonder why.

Law enforcement will have seen the videos by now. LE is the only exception to the law regarding minors that I know of. There is no obligation on the part of the school system to make these tapes available to anyone else. Matter of fact, any other party wanting to see them would have to go to court to do so. This would take a long, long time because the parent(s) of every single student that may be in the video could go to court individually and challenge the release of the tapes.

 

[Shlock Homes]

I was really gung ho about calling this a murder and a cover-up was in place. But then I saw the time line and my opinion changed.

Why? Because it happened during the day, during school hours. If this had happened after hours when most people had gone for the day, and there might not be supervising adults in the area, I can see a fight and murder possibly taking place and body concealed. But there was a gym class that entered soon after. Unless that class and their teacher murder Kendrick, I don't see it possible that someone could have murdered him and stuffed his body in the back without being seen in such a short time.

What else makes me think this wasn't a murder? Well, if he was beaten to a pulp and placed in the mat, there should have been blood on the other mats too. His body was also in a mat that was buried in the back of other mats. The murderers would not have been able to kill him, move the mats out, stick in him in a mat, and then put them all back so quickly (or at least without the video showing). Plus there would be smear marks and more blood from them relocating the body.

Sadly, it appears he died by accident. I am puzzled about his shoes, but perhaps those came off as he was kicking to get free? The timeline article below also says one shoe and his books were on top, so it's possible he grabbed one shoe out, but then when he was going for the other he got jammed in. The neck trauma in the new autopsy could have been from the position of his body and the weight of his body on his head?

Also, the shoes he was retrieving were his gym shoes. He enters the gym, goes to the mats where he left his gym shoes because he was supposed to head to his next class. The white shoes are his street shoes.

Here's the article with the timeline again that was posted earlier.
http://valdostadailytimes.com/local/x6223544/Timeline-of-a-tragedy

 

[LinasK]

:truce:

Asking your honest opinion. Don't you think the parents, lawyer, would be saying they thought it might be a prank and ask for those involved to come forward? If they just believed that he was treated disrespectfully in death then why all the misdirect? Is it grief? Is it a self serving outsider who is driving the bus just to get media attention? TIA

Prank gone wrong still might be involuntary manslaughter and ought to face some jail time. A person died here.