GA - Rayshard Brooks, 27, fatally shot in Wendy’s car park, Atlanta, 12 Jun 2020 *officer charged*

[SugarQueen]

Interesting that the mayor called the taser in that case a lethal weapon.

So, are we to believe a taser is only a lethal weapon in the hands of a police officer?

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

One of my friends said, “they could drive him to the sister”. (But he is from Europe, different mentality). However, at least calling the sister and asking her to come pick him up.

I would rather not see LE babysit criminals. I want to live in a world where laws are enforced. I can see why criminals would want a pass especially those that have a record.

 

[Keefer]

My "suggestion" is to just follow the law. And don't resist arrest, or an adverse reaction may happen. Something I and many have learned over the years.

I think we have to be smarter than the criminal or lawbreaker. If you were a cop, would you rather try to arrest someone at the best possible time for you or them?

 

[Keefer]

So, are we to believe a taser is only a lethal weapon in the hands of a police officer?

I think it can be if someone knows how to use it.

 

[SugarQueen]

I think we have to be smarter than the criminal or lawbreaker. If you were a cop, would you rather try to arrest someone at the best possible time for you or them?

best time for cop or criminal?? Can you clarify?

 

[Keefer]

I would rather not see LE babysit criminals. I want to live in a world where laws are enforced. I can see why criminals would want a pass especially those that have a record.

I think we have to make a distinction between “criminals” and someone with a dui or other misdemeanor. I think it would be better to use police resources going after real criminals.

 

[shotgun09]

I think we have to be smarter than the criminal or lawbreaker. If you were a cop, would you rather try to arrest someone at the best possible time for you or them?

What?? Seriously?

 

[SugarQueen]

I think it can be if someone knows how to use it.

So you think it can be lethal if LE uses it, but not lethal when a criminal uses it?? That’s convenient.

 

[Keefer]

best time for cop or criminal?? Can you clarify?

For the police. I think and its mostly a guess but i do think that new tech like face recognition software could be an integral part of the plan

 

[Rocky1]

I would rather not see LE babysit criminals. I want to live in a world where laws are enforced. I can see why criminals would want a pass especially those that have a record.

I can see the results now of LE calling for rides because someone is irresponsible and can't follow the law as they are written.......
Call my sister..
What's her number? Um, as soon as I figure out where I am, I'll see if I can remember the right number.
4 attempts later after trying 4 different phone numbers he connects with the Sister. Hello Ma'am. I have your brother here and he's to drunk to drive, can you come pick him up?
Sure, my husband will be home in a half hour. He can watch the kids and I'll be right over after that.
An hour later the cop calls back. Ma'am where are you?
Well, my car won't start, so I'm waiting for AAA to show up to give me a jump start, then I'll be right there.
2 cops hanging around for 3 hours catering to the needs of someone that has no consequences of breaking the law. All at the cost of the taxpayer.
Maybe one of the cops can drive the car home for him too while the other follows and then gives him a ride back to his cruiser?

 

[Keefer]

So you think it can be lethal if LE uses it, but not lethal when a criminal uses it?? That’s convenient.

I am not an expert on tasers. But, my understanding is that once the leads have been shot out of said taser they both have to hook into someones clothing or skin, then someone has to know what comes next. I guess sometimes people continue to shock someone over and over or for a longer duration.

 

[SugarQueen]

I think we have to make a distinction between “criminals” and someone with a dui or other misdemeanor. I think it would be better to use police resources going after real criminals.

Come on now!! Since drinking and driving is in fact illegal he is a criminal. A drunk driver is a REAL criminal. Drunk drivers KILL people. Do deaths only count if LE is involved?

 

[Keefer]

What?? Seriously?

Yes, i am serious. Would you rather arrest someone where you have less control of the environment?

 

[Rocky1]

I think we have to make a distinction between “criminals” and someone with a dui or other misdemeanor. I think it would be better to use police resources going after real criminals.

That makes sense to me.
Leave the drunk driver alone til he kills someone and then go after him because now he's a criminal.
Got it.

 

[Keefer]

Come on now!! Since drinking and driving is in fact illegal he is a criminal. A drunk driver is a REAL criminal. Drunk drivers KILL people. Do deaths only count if LE is involved?

What I meant was degree of criminality, and you are right dui is a poor example. But, in Mr. Brooks’ case in might have been better to impound his car and give him a ticket

 

[Keefer]

That makes sense to me.
Leave the drunk driver alone til he kills someone and then go after him because now he's a criminal.
Got it.

I did not say leave them alone, i said handle it differently. If in this case his car was impounded and he went home to family this would not have happened. If you want to tell me how police can be trained in a few weeks to subdue someone like Mr. Brooks efficiently after a few months of training, i am all ears.

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Hear 911 call before Rayshard Brooks shooting - CNN Video

There’s a 911 call out, where the caller did in fact try to wake him.

 

[SugarQueen]

What I meant was degree of criminality, and you are right dui is a poor example. But, in Mr. Brooks’ case in might have been better to impound his car and give him a ticket

Are you saying EVERY drunk driver should have his car impounded, get a ticket, and sent merrily on his way?

 

[Keefer]

My "suggestion" is to just follow the law. And don't resist arrest, or an adverse reaction may happen. Something I and many have learned over the years.

It isnt working. People get killed, then cops are blamed, then comes retribution. The cycle repeats.

 

[Rocky1]

What I meant was degree of criminality, and you are right dui is a poor example. But, in Mr. Brooks’ case in might have been better to impound his car and give him a ticket

In Mr. Brooks case, it would have been better if he didn't resist arrest.
We can Monday morning quarterback all night. What if he flipped out when he got his ticket and grabbed the tazor then?