GUILTY GA - Sam Poss, 18, Perry, 15 Oct 2016 *Arrests*

[zencompass]

http://www.13wmaz.com/news/local/samuel-poss-still-missing/337651731

From the article:

"Captain Dykes says every tip the police have received so far, has come up cold.

"We had a sighting on Lake Joy Road," Dykes said. "We confirmed that was another kid. His mother called this morning."

Dykes says cell phone evidence suggests Sam did go to his friend's house on Tucker Road around 12:00 a.m. early Saturday morning. He says he believes the last time anyone saw Sam, he was leaving that friend's house around 1:30 a.m.

Dykes says police are currently examining evidence to determine if he made it home before he went missing."

This is very interesting.

 

[zencompass]

My question is: are the police referring to Sam's friend as the person who saw him leave his friend's house at 1:30 a.m.? Or is there someone
else we are not yet aware of?

From the article:
"Dykes says cell phone evidence suggests Sam did go to his friend's house on Tucker Road around 12:00 a.m. early Saturday morning.
He says he believes the last time anyone saw Sam, he was leaving that friend's house around 1:30 a.m."

 

[DakotaMayi]

I had that thought as well. I can't get out of my mind that maybe he and his friend had a pre-arranged agreement to cover for each other so Sam could go out and do something else. Sam could have asked his friend to text him. Then he texted his friend back just before midnight to say he would come fix his computer. Then Sam goes out. The question is, who saw Sam leaving the friend's house at 1:30 AM? Was it just the friend or did the friend's parents/family/roommates see Sam as well? Notice it doesn't say they have cell phone evidence of what time he left. They need to lean on all his friends for more info, IMO.

BBM.

This. None of it seems to add it up and it seems a strange thing to go and do at 12am. To me anyway.

 

[dub]

BBM.

This. None of it seems to add it up and it seems a strange thing to go and do at 12am. To me anyway.

Just throwing it out there, when I was 18 if I was blowing up my friends at midnight on a weekend, especially if I was asking for "help" with something at least 90% of the time it was something weed-related--either to see if they had any, or to see if they wanted to meet up and smoke. And I for sure would have coded it with something innocuous along the lines of fixing a computer.

That being said, I highly doubt Sam's buddy had anything to do directly with him going missing, but that could be a piece of the puzzle that's being swept under the rug and contributing to the confusion.

 

[DakotaMayi]

Just throwing it out there, when I was 18 if I was blowing up my friends at midnight on a weekend, especially if I was asking for "help" with something at least 90% of the time it was something weed-related--either to see if they had any, or to see if they wanted to meet up and smoke. And I for sure would have coded it with something innocuous along the lines of fixing a computer.

That being said, I highly doubt Sam's buddy had anything to do directly with him going missing, but that could be a piece of the puzzle that's being swept under the rug and contributing to the confusion.

Suppose so. We were all different at that age.

 

[Gardener1850]

Just throwing it out there, when I was 18 if I was blowing up my friends at midnight on a weekend, especially if I was asking for "help" with something at least 90% of the time it was something weed-related--either to see if they had any, or to see if they wanted to meet up and smoke. And I for sure would have coded it with something innocuous along the lines of fixing a computer.

That being said, I highly doubt Sam's buddy had anything to do directly with him going missing, but that could be a piece of the puzzle that's being swept under the rug and contributing to the confusion.

I don't think his friend is involved and he may not have even seen Sam that night. I could be wrong and his friend told all he knew. I just know teens and used to be one. I never did drugs but I snuck out a few times to hang with people I wasn't supposed to be with or told my parents I would be one place when I went another, so it doesn't have to be drug or alcohol related. But his dad was lenient enough to let his son go to a friend's house at midnight on a friday to fix a computer. If he wasn't doing what he said, then it may have been something or someone they said he couldn't be with in the past or he knew they wouldn't approve of. LE needs to question his parents and all his friends/classmates. Best case scenario is that Sam is hanging with friends and too embarrassed or was too wasted to come home. Worst case is he left with the wrong people who harmed him (whether accidentally or on purpose). I guess he could also be lost in the woods but I really doubt it since he knew the area well enough to walk there barefoot.

 

[ninij9]

Just throwing it out there, when I was 18 if I was blowing up my friends at midnight on a weekend, especially if I was asking for "help" with something at least 90% of the time it was something weed-related--either to see if they had any, or to see if they wanted to meet up and smoke. And I for sure would have coded it with something innocuous along the lines of fixing a computer.

That being said, I highly doubt Sam's buddy had anything to do directly with him going missing, but that could be a piece of the puzzle that's being swept under the rug and contributing to the confusion.

This makes more sense than anything else so far.

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[LisaWL7TR]

Thank you! Strange there's two people walking around without shoes! Maybe I just like my shoes...

Sorry if I missed this, but do we know when his family realised he was missing? Was it in the early hours, when he should have been home? Or was it not until the morning?

My beautiful neighbor was always out and about in the hood without shoes

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[Tabirey]

With Sam being 18 and graduated, I doubt that he had a curfew or needed to ask permission to leave the house. But I could be wrong, some parents do still enforce a curfew, etc when their adult children live with them.
I believe it's been said that he left his phone at home, correct? So, like Gardener theorized, he could have asked the friend to cover for him and it's possible that Sam never went to his house. The friend could be scared to admit the truth now that Sam is missing.

Unfortunately, I don't believe that's what happened...I think it's possible he did make it to the friends house (whether to actually fix a comp or to "hang out ") and maybe there was an altercation for some reason (do we know if that house was searched or if anyone else was there / lives there? ) and now the friend is covering it up.
Or, Sam was there and did leave at the time indicated, had some sort of accident (hit by a vehicle? ) or was not completely sober and OD'd and he just hasn't been found yet. ( not stating that Sam is a drug user, just throwing some scenarios out )

All of this is just MHO. ..something about Sam's case is just tugging at my heartstrings ..maybe because I have a daughter his age that also just graduated and is spreading her wings.

Come home soon Sam!

 

[dub]

I don't think his friend is involved and he may not have even seen Sam that night. I could be wrong and his friend told all he knew. I just know teens and used to be one. I never did drugs but I snuck out a few times to hang with people I wasn't supposed to be with or told my parents I would be one place when I went another, so it doesn't have to be drug or alcohol related. But his dad was lenient enough to let his son go to a friend's house at midnight on a friday to fix a computer. If he wasn't doing what he said, then it may have been something or someone they said he couldn't be with in the past or he knew they wouldn't approve of. LE needs to question his parents and all his friends/classmates. Best case scenario is that Sam is hanging with friends and too embarrassed or was too wasted to come home. Worst case is he left with the wrong people who harmed him (whether accidentally or on purpose). I guess he could also be lost in the woods but I really doubt it since he knew the area well enough to walk there barefoot.

BBM

Oh, most definitely. Just because I personally was a dirtbag doesn't mean that's the "norm" by any stretch haha

Although another reason I lean that direction is because I think the "exercise" line stinks. It makes more sense to me that he refused a ride from his buddy (or, equally likely if not more so, was never really offered one) because his buddy was stoned/intoxicated in whatever way/shape/form.

That actually didn't occur to me until now, but his boy doing CYA because he never offered Sam a ride and he's missing now would also make sense as a piece of the shadiness.

 

[DakotaMayi]

Im well and truly an adult, I live with my fiancé and we're planning children and my Mom still has a moan at me if I forget to take my phone with me. �� God love her haha.

I would love to know if anyone else did see him leave that house at the time given. Or if at all.

 

[kimi_SFC]

https://www.facebook.com/MissingPiecesNetwork/posts/1590850404554465:0

"One still missing is one too many."
Facebook.com/MissingPiecesNetwork

Thank you!!!!

#BringSamHome
#FindSam

:candle:


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[kimi_SFC]

http://www.macon.com/news/local/community/houston-peach/article108917702.html


they will use cadaver dogs in the search tomorrow.

The embedded video at drjones' link brought me to :tears:

Where are you, Sam????


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[Gardener1850]

With Sam being 18 and graduated, I doubt that he had a curfew or needed to ask permission to leave the house. But I could be wrong, some parents do still enforce a curfew, etc when their adult children live with them.
I believe it's been said that he left his phone at home, correct? So, like Gardener theorized, he could have asked the friend to cover for him and it's possible that Sam never went to his house. The friend could be scared to admit the truth now that Sam is missing.

Unfortunately, I don't believe that's what happened...I think it's possible he did make it to the friends house (whether to actually fix a comp or to "hang out ") and maybe there was an altercation for some reason (do we know if that house was searched or if anyone else was there / lives there? ) and now the friend is covering it up.
Or, Sam was there and did leave at the time indicated, had some sort of accident (hit by a vehicle? ) or was not completely sober and OD'd and he just hasn't been found yet. ( not stating that Sam is a drug user, just throwing some scenarios out )

All of this is just MHO. ..something about Sam's case is just tugging at my heartstrings ..maybe because I have a daughter his age that also just graduated and is spreading her wings.

Come home soon Sam!

I think your theory is just as likely. Whatever happened, I hope his friends will speak up soon. I just can't imagine he went voluntarily missing without telling anyone something. His friends know a lot even if they didn't see him that night--where he hung out, what secrets he may not have told his parents. Even kids who don't need permission to go out late anymore may not tell their parents everything.

 

[zencompass]

I have placed my belief in Captain Heath Dykes when he said "“We’re just doing everything we can to try not to leave any stone unturned."
Please keep moving those stones!

Sending prayers of hope and faith to the search and rescue team. Praying for the safe return of Sam.

 

[Tabirey]

I think your theory is just as likely. Whatever happened, I hope his friends will speak up soon. I just can't imagine he went voluntarily missing without telling anyone something. His friends know a lot even if they didn't see him that night--where he hung out, what secrets he may not have told his parents. Even kids who don't need permission to go out late anymore may not tell their parents everything.

Exactly! I know my friends knew a heck of a lot more than my Dad did...I sincerely hope his friends will suck it up and spill....

 

[dub]

Sorry if I missed this, but do we know when his family realised he was missing? Was it in the early hours, when he should have been home? Or was it not until the morning?

RSBM

I was wondering the same thing.

http://www.13wmaz.com/news/local/friends-family-police-looking-for-missing-perry-teen/336965496

According to the above article seemingly it wasn't until sometime the following day. It doesn't sound like they necessarily expected him home that night.

Christian Poss says the family became worried when Samuel didn't show up for their planned trip to the fair on Saturday.

 

[drjones]

i remember reading somewhere in MSM that he was not determined to be missing until the next day (iirc it was either mid-day or afternoon) when he didnt show up to some sort of family event.

so complete speculation - by the time sam is supposed to have arrived home at approx. 2am anyone else in the house is already asleep (i know he lives with his father, beyond that im not sure), in the morning maybe people go to work or just do their own thing and assume he is sleeping, until its time for the gathering and he isnt there so they check on him.

(edit - ok, link in post above confirms this, planned trip to fair the next day)

i would assume they did some sort of investigation to try to determine if he ever came home (and then possibly went back out later that morning), but it could be hard to determine that for certain.

the cadaver dogs didnt find any hits today, the bloodhounds didnt find anything, and they are no longer actively searching the woods unless further information develops.

(will find link to confirm that)

 

[drjones]

here is the link, have to watch the video (the updated info is not yet in the text below;

http://www.13wmaz.com/news/cadaver-dogs-used-in-search-for-missing-perry-teen/338393830

 

[drjones]

this is an area sam was very familiar with, it is not a "large" area relatively speaking to some search areas, it is bordered by unmistakable landmarks that a person familiar with the area would not miss even in the middle of the night (provided they are of sound mind).

i dont think this is one of the cases where expanding the search area makes sense unless there is some specific information to support doing so.

im still wondering about the meadows lake area, but since we havent heard anything about it and since they searched the creek area which is in the opposite direction im now assuming the friends house was to the west of sams house towards ball st. extension, as opposed to the east towards the lake - has anyone seen anything about that?

did people gather at the lake area, or anywhere in the woods late at night to party? was there an all night store nearby that he may have decided to go to before going home?