GA - Suspicion over heat death of Cooper, 22 mo., Cobb County, June 2014, #8

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defiance IMO

For comparison purposes, here is Miles Harrison's photo. Harrison also left his son in the car. I am not good at reading faces in photos. I tend to pick up on behavioral cues. Maybe someone has some insight. (Quoted like I did for easy comparison purposes. Not directing this at anyone in particular.) http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/01/04/world/04adopt01-190.jpg

Edit: And I still messed it up. Oops! I was trying to get RH's picture on there. Newbie fail!
 
  • #422
Can someone explain what that 3 handed clock is supposed to mean? Maybe I'm dense, but it makes no sense to me.

looks to be showing when he arrived in the parking lot and when he went back out to the car (two hour hands)?:twocents: (based on the description in the timeline underneath it)
 
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Ok, the picture must be wrong. But still, the 21st is 3 days after the death. So, my opinion is the same. It wasn't just the shock of Cooper's death and how he died. But the facts they had learned. Because what he said was 'What I know about this CASE, shocks..."

IMO he was talking about criminal activity by the father. Not just "uh oh, I forgot my baby was in the car".

JMO

Wasn't trying to change your mind. Just providing the correct info since the article was wrong :seeya:
 
  • #425
I can't imagine leaving a child in a car. Last year in the heat of the summer in FL I was at grocery store and heard a dog barking in a car. Went through parking lot looking for it. Found him in a SUV windows partial down very partial I could stick my hand in car, couldn't quite reach the lock or I was going to open the door. Instead I went in looking for owner. Got in a huge argument of them leaving dog in 100 degree plus car. Young daughter was very apologetic, mother just wanted to get the he77 out of there and other older daughter told me to mind my own business, "it's just a dog"! When she told me that I come unglued. I had several people out in parking lot backing me up about leaving animal in over heated car, store manager even come out. They finally drove off. What I couldn't understand there were 3 of them why 1 couldn't stay in car with dog and AC on? Things people do, drive me insane![emoji36]


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Can someone explain what that 3 handed clock is supposed to mean? Maybe I'm dense, but it makes no sense to me.

Hours, minutes, and seconds?

:waitasec:
 
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For comparison purposes, here is Miles Harrison's photo. Harrison also left his son in the car. I am not good at reading faces in photos. I tend to pick up on behavioral cues. Maybe someone has some insight. (Quoted like I did for easy comparison purposes. Not directing this at anyone in particular.) http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/01/04/world/04adopt01-190.jpg

Edit: And I still messed it up. Oops! I was trying to get RH's picture on there. Newbie fail!

It was a child adopted from Russia. Russia used this case as the reason to stop all adoptions into the US. They were outraged Harrison was found not guilty.
 
  • #429
Wasn't trying to change your mind. Just providing the correct info since the article was wrong :seeya:

Oh, I know. I was not trying to imply you were.
I was just jumping off your post.
3 days or 6... same difference to me.
 
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Can someone explain what that 3 handed clock is supposed to mean? Maybe I'm dense, but it makes no sense to me.

When he left Cooper in the car, went to the car at lunchtime and then left in the car at the end of the work day. imo One hand pointing to the # relating to the hour for each of the 3.
 
  • #431
Is that for eastern Nurse? I am in central and don't want to miss it.Thanks!:seeya:

yes.. est.. central would be 12:30pm
 
  • #432
POPSICLE

I found THIS about Vermont law. Going to see if Georgia has a similar statute now.

Vermont, like many other states, has a general saving statute designed
to permit the prosecution of individuals who violate a law that is repealed
prior to the prosecution and sentencing of their cases. Under Vermont's
saving statute, the amendment or repeal of an act shall not, except as pro-
vided in subsection (c), "[a]ffect any violation of the act . . . amended
or repealed, . . . prior to the effective date of the amendment or repeal."
1 V.S.A. { 214(b)(3). Where, however, an amendment reduces the punishment
for an offense, Vermont law provides the following ameliorative amendment
clause, which is an exception to the saving clause:
If the penalty or punishment for any offense is
reduced by the amendment of an act or statutory pro-
vision, the same shall be imposed in accordance with
the act or provision as amended unless imposed prior to
the date of the amendment.
1 V.S.A. { 214(c).


http://libraries.vermont.gov/sites/libraries/files/supct/160/op92-027.txt

eta: I learned a new phrase lol "retroactive amelioration." Apparently, this has come up in GA recently. Still hunting down the outcome.

snipped from the link:

Genarlow Wilson, convicted at seventeen of aggravated child molestation, a felony, for consensual oral sex with a fifteen-year old classmate, was sentenced to a mandatory minimum of ten years. While his appeal was pending, the Georgia Legislature reclassified the conduct as a misdemeanor and reduced the sentence to a maximum of one year but decided not to apply the changes retroactively to him. I use the Genarlow Wilson case as a backdrop to examine the denial of the retroactive application of ameliorative sentencing changes that is manifested through the use of a legislative device known as the express saving clause or a general saving statute. Currently, in the majority, ameliorative sentencing changes are applied retroactively provided there is a clear expression of legislative intent.

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1443272
 
  • #433
Just heard on HLN they would be broadcasting live.


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  • #434
It was a child adopted from Russia. Russia used this case as the reason to stop all adoptions into the US. They were outraged Harrison was found not guilty.

Right. What I was trying to do (and failed miserably) was present RH's photo next to MH's photo so people could compare the facial expressions at the time of booking. To me, MH looks a little more sad, but still no redness or puffiness like what I would expect.

What strikes me about JH's picture is that it doesn't look too different from his selfie in the car or how he held his son. It's like he had one expression.
 
  • #435
Right. What I was trying to do (and failed miserably) was present RH's photo next to MH's photo so people could compare the facial expressions at the time of booking. To me, MH looks a little more sad, but still no redness or puffiness like what I would expect.

What strikes me about JH's picture is that it doesn't look too different from his selfie in the car or how he held his son. It's like he had one expression.

I think MH might not be the best example for comparison. I know he was found not guilty, but I feel the case is certainly complicated by the fact that the child was adopted.
 
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I can't imagine leaving a child in a car. Last year in the heat of the summer in FL I was at grocery store and heard a dog barking in a car. Went through parking lot looking for it. Found him in a SUV windows partial down very partial I could stick my hand in car, couldn't quite reach the lock or I was going to open the door. Instead I went in looking for owner. Got in a huge argument of them leaving dog in 100 degree plus car. Young daughter was very apologetic, mother just wanted to get the he77 out of there and other older daughter told me to mind my own business, "it's just a dog"! When she told me that I come unglued. I had several people out in parking lot backing me up about leaving animal in over heated car, store manager even come out. They finally drove off. What I couldn't understand there were 3 of them why 1 couldn't stay in car with dog and AC on? Things people do, drive me insane![emoji36]


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I have a remote key start and if I'm running into a convienance store to pick up milk or something, I'll leave my dog in the car, lock the with my key fob and restart the car so the AC is still running.
I would still NEVER leave him in the car to go say...food shopping or Target because I am terrified of the car stalling and my dog roasting to death. The fact that my car has NEVER stalled...doesn't mean I'm willing to risk it. Cars stall.

YKWIM


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