GA - Suspicion over heat death of Cooper, 22 mo., Cobb County, June 2014, #9

[TorisMom003]

Sure.
Why not?


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Thanks. That's what I thought however hubby said I was wrong, in his opinion. I just wanted to know for sure. You know, to prove I was right once again.......lol

 

[blue22]

Had a thought... Perhaps she wanted rid of them both.




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You just went and blew my mind there.

 

[Linda7NJ]

lol, he noticed the sheriffs....they were all for him. I swear one time I wondered if he was gazing around looking for the cameras.

That dumba$$ probably thought they were showing their support!.... Like at the funeral!



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[Linda7NJ]

Thanks. That's what I thought however hubby said I was wrong, in his opinion. I just wanted to know for sure. You know, to prove I was right once again.......lol

I'm not positive. But it's usually in succession. As far as I know...I'm guessing!
Don't do the "I told you so dance" yet!


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[Lovejac]

found this pic from today

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28155468

 

[newone]

At the end of the hearing today, the judge said something like, "facing a life sentence with a minimum mandatory of 30 years in prison"...

Does that mean if he gets life, he can't be eligible for parole until he serves 30 years? I thought life was life in GA?

judge also said,......potential death penalty................

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I didn't find it. Popsicle did. But I verified that it was in the Legislature and appears to have been passed. It's not "on the books yet," though. Or at least I couldn't find it on public lexis. Haven't tried Westlaw.

Georgia law on retroactivity appears to be somewhat complicated. I linked the most recent case in a post before the hearing. It was a sex with minors case involving an 18 year old named Genarlow Wilson. The law changed after he was convicted to make his crime a misdemeanor, iirc. In that case, though, the legislature specified that the change in law was NOT to be applied retroactively. Nonetheless, his punishment was ultimately found to be cruel and unusual.

Afaik, Georgia does not have a saving statute -- all laws apply retroactively unless there's some really good reason why they don't. So, imo, the new law will not apply retroactively unless the legislature said it should, BUT a sentence of more than 30 years (and defo the DP) will be deemed unconstitutional. I have NOT been able to find the Leg. history of GA's new second degree murder statute.

Sorry if that doesn't make much common sense. I've had a week from hell and am SOOOOOO tired!

Makes sense to me. Looks like you've searched for what I'm asking and haven't found a definitive answer. It's getting late and I don't think I'll look further into this tonight. Thanks for your help.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Looks like you asked and received...in abundance.


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Oh yes. There's plenty of motive made public now.

 

[CHERIE.T]

That dumba$$ probably thought they were showing their support!.... Like at the funeral!



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oh gawd :floorlaugh:

 

[newone]

For anyone that might know.......

If Leanna is never charged with any crime in Cooper's death, can she still file a claim on the two life insurance policies if she is listed as one of the beneficiaries?

absolutely

 

[Linda7NJ]

judge also said,......potential death penalty................

Yes he did,






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[TorisMom003]

Oh yes. There's plenty of motive made public now.

Just think what else LE is going to find before they finish their investigation.

 

[Salem]

Post #4 has been updated with the following:

Mom is still considered a semi-victim here unless you have a link from LE/MSM saying otherwise. She can be discussed in the context of what she has said in the media and in the warrants and the information that came out in court at the Probable Cause/Bond Hearing. But you cannot outright accuse her. We will give it a week to see what happens and how it all plays out and then reassess the situation.

As far as sleuthing mom, that is still under discussion and I will let you know, as soon as I know, but for right now, she is still off limits.

Salem

 

[gngr~snap]

found this pic from today

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28155468

good giggly wiggly! She scares me!

 

[SStarr33]

I completely agree. Years ago there was a horrific case that caused me to reflect - what's worse than having your child murdered? Having one of your children murder another one of your children. That's worse.

This is what happened today. She realized her son murdered her beautiful grandson.

I can't even imagine.

Can you imagine if she is pro death penalty? Then has to be in favor of them putting her son to death.

 

[ahintexas]

yeah, I know... "well, if that were me" posts aren't actually helpful. But, I have to say, if that had been me, I promise you, it would not matter if I was in shock, medicated, brow-beaten, or whatever; I would have jumped up and headed straight for my man's throat. And, I know violence is not the solution to violence. Wouldn't have mattered. I would have turned violent. It would have been a reaction.

More than likely, I would've been handcuffed today if my husband was in court for harming our child! As a matter of fact, I'd probably be in jail for trying to harm him the day it happened.

 

[TorisMom003]

Post #4 has been updated with the following:

Mom is still considered a semi-victim here unless you have a link from LE/MSM saying otherwise. She can be discussed in the context of what she has said in the media and in the warrants and the information that came out in court at the Probable Cause/Bond Hearing. But you cannot outright accuse her. We will give it a week to see what happens and how it all plays out and then reassess the situation.

As far as sleuthing mom, that is still under discussion and I will let you know, as soon as I know, but for right now, she is still off limits.

Salem

Thank you so much Salem! And thanks to all of our other amazing Mods!

 

[Linda7NJ]

For anyone that might know.......



If Leanna is never charged with any crime in Cooper's death, can she still file a claim on the two life insurance policies if she is listed as one of the beneficiaries?

Now you can
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[Lovejac]

Post #4 has been updated with the following:

Mom is still considered a semi-victim here unless you have a link from LE/MSM saying otherwise. She can be discussed in the context of what she has said in the media and in the warrants and the information that came out in court at the Probable Cause/Bond Hearing. But you cannot outright accuse her. We will give it a week to see what happens and how it all plays out and then reassess the situation.

As far as sleuthing mom, that is still under discussion and I will let you know, as soon as I know, but for right now, she is still off limits.

Salem

Oh Salem :blowkiss: you have made my day! Thank you!

 

[Salem]

Other news - as you all probably know (hopefully) by now, the forum is being upgraded tomorrow morning so we will be off line for a bit. I think until 8:00 a.m.ish PDT (and alien time ).

Once the update is completed, we will be setting up a forum for Cooper Harris. Start thinking now about the threads you would like to start with and let me or Nurse or Fran know.

Salem