GA - Twin brothers miss flight to Boston, found dead 24 hours later in Georgia mountains, 14 Mar 2025

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I'm trying to say this as gently as possible, but I think many of these bizarre things could be explained by a psychotic break by one of them. The other one could have tried to cover it up and try to reason with them. And as they were only 19, it's kind of a thing at that age to try to hide things from family and since they are twins, it will boost even more of the "we will deal with this ourselves". Not many 19-year olds have the know-how to deal with a brothers first psychosis. It would explain the flight thing. The other one was leaving but got sucked in the irrational behavior and missed flight. Or the psychotic one would miss the flight and the other one would be like " all ok we'll get you another one" and thought it would work out. In psychosis you might have moments of being more present and people might be like ok now it is all ok again (we want to believe it). But then the psychotic one gets all like "I have To drive to this Mountain and gets the gun and gets in to the car and the other one is like oh no, can't talk them out of it, I better get in the car with them.
Then who shot who in what fear, irrational, agitated moment and then could not cope with that and did it to themselves after it.

I don't know. I don't even know if this is the most likely theory, but felt like I wanted to share this possibility.

I have been around psychotic people my whole life so I know my view is affected by that. I don't see no shame in it.
Like a broken leg that 19-year olds tried to fix themselves.

IMO veryyy very JMO
 
MessyLee said:
I'm trying to say this as gently as possible, but I think many of these bizarre things could be explained by a psychotic break by one of them. The other one could have tried to cover it up and try to reason with them. And as they were only 19, it's kind of a thing at that age to try to hide things from family and since they are twins, it will boost even more of the "we will deal with this ourselves". Not many 19-year olds have the know-how to deal with a brothers first psychosis. It would explain the flight thing. The other one was leaving but got sucked in the irrational behavior and missed flight. Or the psychotic one would miss the flight and the other one would be like " all ok we'll get you another one" and thought it would work out. In psychosis you might have moments of being more present and people might be like ok now it is all ok again (we want to believe it). But then the psychotic one gets all like "I have To drive to this Mountain and gets the gun and gets in to the car and the other one is like oh no, can't talk them out of it, I better get in the car with them.
Then who shot who in what fear, irrational, agitated moment and then could not cope with that and did it to themselves after it.

I don't know. I don't even know if this is the most likely theory, but felt like I wanted to share this possibility.

I have been around psychotic people my whole life so I know my view is affected by that. I don't see no shame in it.
Like a broken leg that 19-year olds tried to fix themselves.

IMO veryyy very JMO
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I think about this case every day & still have no conclusions. I think your suggestion is feasible. Especially the thought that one of them might have tried to deal with things/help his twin without looping in the family, trying to deal with it himself. From articles, their dad had suffered a stroke (& remained impaired) within the last year, they had 10 siblings, & we don't really know the situation with their mom. So, to me, it seems like their family on both sides maybe had quite a bit going on & I could totally see your idea of "we will deal with this ourselves". With the lack of info we have, I think your theory is as possible as others that have been posited. Jmo.
 
MessyLee said:
I'm trying to say this as gently as possible, but I think many of these bizarre things could be explained by a psychotic break by one of them. The other one could have tried to cover it up and try to reason with them. And as they were only 19, it's kind of a thing at that age to try to hide things from family and since they are twins, it will boost even more of the "we will deal with this ourselves". Not many 19-year olds have the know-how to deal with a brothers first psychosis. It would explain the flight thing. The other one was leaving but got sucked in the irrational behavior and missed flight. Or the psychotic one would miss the flight and the other one would be like " all ok we'll get you another one" and thought it would work out. In psychosis you might have moments of being more present and people might be like ok now it is all ok again (we want to believe it). But then the psychotic one gets all like "I have To drive to this Mountain and gets the gun and gets in to the car and the other one is like oh no, can't talk them out of it, I better get in the car with them.
Then who shot who in what fear, irrational, agitated moment and then could not cope with that and did it to themselves after it.

I don't know. I don't even know if this is the most likely theory, but felt like I wanted to share this possibility.

I have been around psychotic people my whole life so I know my view is affected by that. I don't see no shame in it.
Like a broken leg that 19-year olds tried to fix themselves.

IMO veryyy very JMO
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This scenerio is a very real possibility and makes sense. Possibly the family either didn't see or recognize the signs. I know firsthand the tendency we have for blindspots in those close to us.

ITA, no shame on the part of anyone, if the situation you describe were to be true.
 
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MessyLee said:
I'm trying to say this as gently as possible, but I think many of these bizarre things could be explained by a psychotic break by one of them. The other one could have tried to cover it up and try to reason with them. And as they were only 19, it's kind of a thing at that age to try to hide things from family and since they are twins, it will boost even more of the "we will deal with this ourselves". Not many 19-year olds have the know-how to deal with a brothers first psychosis. It would explain the flight thing. The other one was leaving but got sucked in the irrational behavior and missed flight. Or the psychotic one would miss the flight and the other one would be like " all ok we'll get you another one" and thought it would work out. In psychosis you might have moments of being more present and people might be like ok now it is all ok again (we want to believe it). But then the psychotic one gets all like "I have To drive to this Mountain and gets the gun and gets in to the car and the other one is like oh no, can't talk them out of it, I better get in the car with them.
Then who shot who in what fear, irrational, agitated moment and then could not cope with that and did it to themselves after it.

I don't know. I don't even know if this is the most likely theory, but felt like I wanted to share this possibility.

I have been around psychotic people my whole life so I know my view is affected by that. I don't see no shame in it.
Like a broken leg that 19-year olds tried to fix themselves.

IMO veryyy very JMO
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Once, I accidentally became privy to the reason underlying a string of tragic events. Such events are of the type that we tend to read about and discuss in the context of “but they had the whole world ahead of them! So sad, counselors should, schools should, parents should, friends should…” etc, etc.

That case, too, was explained by “depression runs deep in young people”, and it all made sense. However, one insider was gossipy, and I, a total stranger, came to know the true story.

Why I am sharing it. That story started in an unbelievably mundane way, just an unpleasant event. There was a tiny twist in the plot that made the tragic outcome possible. When I heard of it, it all fell into place. Just a string of circumstances, all happening too soon to process.

But if I were given the bare facts, I would have never thought of such a scenario, although it is rather common and doesn’t require mental illness.

Sometimes young adults have no one to turn to for an advice. Or, they’d feel awkward to do so. Sometimes adults that they turn to say, “let us discuss the options tomorrow”, not realizing how desperate a person might feel. Sometimes, if two are involved, people browse through the inventory of options and see no way out.

So I am open to any version of events, but I would also not be surprised if we never find out the true reason. It is not implausible that what the twins were going through would not seem insurmountable for the adults. There were two of them, and young men tend to stoically keep things between themselves.
 
B'dub said:
Sounds like a long-shot (pun intended) on the part of the GBI, with only one possibly confirmed case of a murder-suicide between identical twin brothers in the last 100 years (Marcus twins, 1975), and that case is itself shrouded in uncertainty.

Impossible? No. Improbable 🤔?

This type of case is so rare it defies even niche categorization in most criminology or psychological studies. If this were a true murder-suicide, it ⁷ be statistically anomalous, making any presumption toward it without irrefutable evidence—highly questionable.
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I looked up the Marcus twins, wowee! Although it doesn't seem like murder/suicide to me. Maybe double suicide? I don't really know what to make of it.
 
Kemug said:
I looked up the Marcus twins, wowee! Although it doesn't seem like murder/suicide to me. Maybe double suicide? I don't really know what to make of it.
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The disturbingly mesmerizing tale of the Marcus brothers was immortalized in David Cronenberg's brilliant film Dead Ringers, wherein both twins were portrayed in an astonishing performance by Jeremy Irons. The film lays out their mutually-enabled undoing in depth, and the road map to their destruction is plain to see and follow, unlike, IMO, the case of these two young men found dead atop Bell Mountain.

I would like to think there will be answers eventually, but I have my doubts. The case bothers me.
 
Knox said:
You feel the GBI would make a strong statement like that without substantial evidence which leads to that preliminary ruling?
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I, personally, think it is entirely possible IF they chose to try to cover something up. All of LE is not honorable. I don't know who is working on this case so since other things don't click for me, I don't rule out trying to sweep it under the rug. Just me. Rebecca Zahou.
 
Ghostwheel said:
I, personally, think it is entirely possible IF they chose to try to cover something up. All of LE is not honorable. I don't know who is working on this case so since other things don't click for me, I don't rule out trying to sweep it under the rug. Just me. Rebecca Zahou.
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I know it happens (Karen Read, IMO). But it's not my immediate reaction to doubt LE's integrity without an indication I need to go there.

IMO there is no indication in this case, the GBI is involved in a coverup.
 
Knox said:
I know it happens (Karen Read, IMO). But it's not my immediate reaction to doubt LE's integrity without an indication I need to go there.

IMO there is no indication in this case, the GBI is involved in a coverup.
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I understand. My own experience is to doubt LE's integrity until I see different. (Cara Knott is only one example). Leaves me sitting on the fence a lot for longer than I probably should in many cases.
 
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Knox said:
I know it happens (Karen Read, IMO). But it's not my immediate reaction to doubt LE's integrity without an indication I need to go there.

IMO there is no indication in this case, the GBI is involved in a coverup.
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I would err on the side of assuming that GBI is very busy. So it might be so that some things that might need to be checked rather soon yet have not being checked because of sheer logistics. This would be my practical assumption, JMO. I don’t know their situation but I assume “being spread thin” might be an issue for lot of places since COVID. JMO.
 
CuriousCricket said:
Since the local authorities called in the state bureau, I would expect a higher quality of investigation, plus access to all the state resources instead of relying on manpower and technology of the smaller, poorer county.
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I agree, I might have more reservations if TCSO was the Lead Investigating Agency.

Also wondered if they were called in so quickly because of who the first to arrive at the scene was? Did they suspect this guy had done something at the scene? Not that he was responsible, but something else?

Speaking of Kerlin, has anyone found his court case online?
 
Knox said:
I agree, I might have more reservations if TCSO was the Lead Investigating Agency.

Also wondered if they were called in so quickly because of who the first to arrive at the scene was? Did they suspect this guy had done something at the scene? Not that he was responsible, but something else?

Speaking of Kerlin, has anyone found his court case online?
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Perhaps because their car was there and they knew immediately they were from Lawrenceville, the county seat of Gwinnett County, -- so out-of-town and two deaths?
 
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