General Discussion and Theories #4

[SnooperDuper]

Its a shame she didn't write about the other calls that were repeatedly called. We could have had a few more links to follow IMO.

WHAT "other calls that were repeatedly called"? Link please.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Maybe people only need one reason to die?

But one wisp of hope, one single reason to live, will make someone live.

 

[Tamarind]

WHAT "other calls that were repeatedly called"? Link please.

I think you posted the link yourself yesterday to the phone bill. I can see at least two other numbers called more than once in the three days that show on that bill. HTH

 

[SnooperDuper]

I think you posted the link yourself yesterday to the phone bill. I can see at least two other numbers called more than once in the three days that show on that bill. HTH

Anybody else called 13 times?

 

[Tamarind]

Untainted by what, knowledge? Information? Facts?

The media is not renowned for its facts, for me it means that the information they often print lacks any real knowledge. MOO

 

[Tamarind]

Anybody else called 13 times?

How would we know with only a 3 day snippet from the bill? The fact remains other numbers were called more than once. Usually people who fear someone don't call them. The calls were unanswered that may explain why she kept calling, dont you think?

 

[Tamarind]

But one wisp of hope, one single reason to live, will make someone live.

No not from what I know. People have tried to coax people from rooftops with reasons to live and failed.

 

[Tamarind]

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I interpret Snooper's comment as an analogy to WM's 'baby' being the MRO and the MRO being the "responsibility [he] didn't want".

It wasn't clear to me, but I know things can be misinterpreted, my posts are sometimes misinterpreted too. Thank you sillybilly

 

[Alethea Dice]

So do you have any stats on the % of these adults that are in council houses and on benefits? It's a benefits nation.



Trust me, it's different when you're mom's in on it.

No, sorry, but 65.2% of the population lives in owner occupied homes and another 18% privately rent. Do you have a link for your claim that everyone who allows their grown children to live at home live in council houses on benefits?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-14380936

Sorry, can't trust you on that one. It may be different when it's your mom, but I know plenty that it wouldn't be any different than friends playing matchmaker.

JMO

 

[Alethea Dice]

Quite possibly yes. But no-ones life can be denigrated to being known for just that, there is a lot more to the human state than that IMHO. If that's all people can see then people must be quite shallow these days. IMO





I thought most men liked a couch, a drink and drawing the blinds, not all for the same reason of course. Just because he may not have been agile enough to keep up with animal rights protests doesn't mean that he was immune to risk. He did take a huge risk with the MRO it seems and it appears to have been at great cost in more ways than one JMO





People do plan things to maintain some normality in their lives even before taking their lives, so that doesn't seem odd to me at all. Teaching someone how to run a business is not control IMO, its necessary, if they are going to take it over.



The MRO now appears to have someone bringing in the contracts, maybe the contracts were already being lined up along with plans for new ownership. Anythings possible !! DM was not necessarily admitting he couldnt do it he was probably saying he didnt want to do it. I see many reasons for that, not least he had just lost his father.





Maybe he placed too much faith in AS.





I dont believe WM had anything to fear from his son JMO.







Anger is a normal part of grief !



Excuse me? , where is this info about an unwanted pregnancy coming from? I expect WM, MB and CM were thrilled that Dellen was born. Please post the link that states there was an unwanted pregnancy.

Thanks, Tamarind. The only thing I could add that I'm questioning would be the contradiction ....

If WM was "controlling DM and the MRO" and teaching him how to run a business, and was involved and there working with AS, then why would DM have to do things "because WM wasn't there to do them"? Which was it?

JMO

 

[SnooperDuper]

Thanks, Tamarind. The only thing I could add that I'm questioning would be the contradiction ....

If WM was "controlling DM and the MRO" and teaching him how to run a business, and was involved and there working with AS, then why would DM have to do things "because WM wasn't there to do them"? Which was it?

JMO

So MA was a one man Popsicle stand where either WM or DM had to work, but not both?

DM had nothing to learn from WM, and WM had no knowledge or guidance to offer DM?

DM was a true business prodigy that drove MA into the ground, single-handedly, without WM's help...or was that WM? Which was it?

 

[Alethea Dice]

I put my faith in the 300 policemen , the 30 news reporters , the numerous court hearings , the substantial pieces of evidence recovered , all those things the three deniers deny.

But that's just me.

Since I specifically referred to WM and LB's cases, perhaps you wouldn't mind providing some links to all these court hearings and news reporters and all the substantial pieces of evidence that were recovered for those two cases. TIA

 

[SnooperDuper]

Since I specifically referred to WM and LB's cases, perhaps you wouldn't mind providing some links to all these court hearings and news reporters and all the substantial pieces of evidence that were recovered for those two cases. TIA

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?518-Timothy-Bosma

 

[Alethea Dice]

I think you posted the link yourself yesterday to the phone bill. I can see at least two other numbers called more than once in the three days that show on that bill. HTH

We also can't see the 13 calls on the small piece of the phone bill that was released to the public, so perhaps the 13 were over more than the 3 days as well.

JMO

 

[Alethea Dice]

So MA was a one man Popsicle stand where either WM or DM had to work, but not both?

DM had nothing to learn from WM, and WM had no knowledge or guidance to offer DM?

DM was a true business prodigy that drove MA into the ground, single-handedly, without WM's help...or was that WM? Which was it?

Not necessarily, but you said he was there and that DM was angry because he wasn't there. He can't be both there and not there.

When did WM acquire knowledge or experience in running an MRO? I know he had experience as a pilot and maybe of an FBO, but when/where did the MRO experience come in?

Personally, I don't believe that either drove MA into the ground. They simply didn't get the contracts.

JMO

 

[Alethea Dice]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?518-Timothy-Bosma

I see a link to a menu of the threads. I don't see links to MSM reportings of a multitude of the WM and LB court hearings or any links to all the substantial pieces of evidence that were recovered for those cases. Are you saying the 30 reporters have never reported what evidence has been found for those two cases?

 

[SnooperDuper]

Not necessarily, but you said he was there and that DM was angry because he wasn't there. He can't be both there and not there.

When did WM acquire knowledge or experience in running an MRO? I know he had experience as a pilot and maybe of an FBO, but when/where did the MRO experience come in?

Personally, I don't believe that either drove MA into the ground. They simply didn't get the contracts.

JMO

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If WM and DM both worked at the MRO, both pitched in, then if WM died there would be twice as much work, twice as many roles for DM to fill.

Just to clarify, after he was dead, WM no longer worked at the MRO.

I referred to WM's general life and employment experience - at no time did I reference MRO experience.

 

[SnooperDuper]

I see a link to a menu of the threads. I don't see links to MSM reportings of a multitude of the WM and LB court hearings or any links to all the substantial pieces of evidence that were recovered for those cases. Are you saying the 30 reporters have never reported what evidence has been found for those two cases?

You'll also like http://www.annrbrocklehurst.com/ it's consistently rated as the highest ranking website covering the Dellen Millard, Time Bosma, Laura Babcock and Wayne Millard stories.

 

[Tamarind]

You'll also like http://www.annrbrocklehurst.com/ it's consistently rated as the highest ranking website covering the Dellen Millard, Time Bosma, Laura Babcock and Wayne Millard stories.

Its a blog with a lot of opinion, not necessarily knowledge or absolute information JMO

 

[Kamille]

Its a blog with a lot of opinion, not necessarily knowledge or absolute information JMO

As a woman who holds a private investigator license and promotes herself as an investigative journalist, I'd say that her website holds more legitimate information on the cases that she chooses to report on than anywhere else, including most MSM. She gets out there, finds and interviews people, researches online (including being a member here) and attends all court hearings. Much more than any other journalist covering this case, perhaps with the exception of Molly Hayes who actually interviewed both suspects. When she can report the facts she uncovers she does. When they are covered by a publication ban, she does not.

Her name is on that site and she's accountable for everything she writes. Good enough for me to trust her information.

MOO