General Discussion Thread #1 -Bail Hearing

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  • #561
10:19 – Investigating officer Botha: arrived at scene at about 04:15 "I found the deceased lying at the bottom of the stairs."

"She was already declared dead" by medics. "She had on white shorts and black vest. She was covered in towels


... so not a nightie as previously reported, was she trying to leave and he locked her in?
 
  • #562
Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman
#OscarPistorius Botha: says he understands Oscar has a house in Italy. We don't want another Dewani matter. BB
 
  • #563
Hilton : the lawyer was looking for documentation and a specific memory stick with offshore account numbers on it #OscarPistorius #SABCNews

now City Press Online ‏@City_Press

RT @barrybateman: #OscarPistorius Botha: While on scene the lawyer and brother were there. We called a locksmith to open a safe
 
  • #564
Botha: "We don't want another Dewani matter." (Wiki link)
 
  • #565
Karyn Maughan ‏@karynmaughan
Botha: Reeva was wearing sleep shorts and a vest. She was covered in towels. @eNCAnews #OscarPistorius

Karyn Maughan ‏@karynmaughan
Botha: I arrived at #OscarPistorius scene at 4:15am. I found the deceased lying on the bottom floor. She was alreadydeclared dead.@eNCAnews

Shorts I can see to sleep in, but a vest? Is there such a thing as a sleep vest?
 
  • #566
they mean what we would call a cami or sleeveless tee
 
  • #567
OP beginning to cry ...
 
  • #568
Okay so like a tank top?
 
  • #569
all 3 shots on right side.

@karynmaughan: Botha: police will add charges of possession of unlicensed ammunition to #OscarPistorius murder charge. @eNCAnews"
 
  • #570
Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman
Botha: upstairs and to the right you have the main bedroom. We found an overnight bag and slippers. BB

Botha: You have to pass the deceased and the starcase to the left to get to the kitchen. BB
Botha: as you enter you see the staircase, at the bottom on the left is where deceased was found.
Botha: Oscar did not have a licence for a .38 weapon. BB
 
  • #571
Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman
Botha: standing in doorway, the shower and toilet are to the right. The toilet is 1.4 by 1.14 metres.
Botha: I found parts of the toilet door on the floor. I found cartridges, firearm on the mat.
 
  • #572
Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman
#OscarPistorius Botha: four shots were fired through the door, four cartridges found. He used a cricket bat to break door. BB
 
  • #573
Botha: the top part of the toilet door was broken. Shots were fired through the door. BB
Botha: the two iPhones were not used that morning. The Blackberries hadn't been used in months.
Botha: two cellphones were found in the bathroom. I collected them and two more Blackberries.
 
  • #574
Aislinn Laing ‏@Simmoa
Botha: We checked both iPhones and two blackberrys we found in the bedroom. No calls were made that morning, neither to ambulance nor police
 
  • #575
The shots went through her clothes, showing she was dressed when she was shot.

Botha says more charges will be added: possession of unlicenced ammunition, since they found .38 Special rounds in a bedroom safe. He had no licence for a .38 calibre weapon. He had a licence for a 9mm pistol.

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There were three entrance wounds on Steenkamp's body: one on the right side of her head above her ear, one in her right arm, which broke her arm, and one at her hip.

Botha says Pistorius made no mention of offshore accounts in his affidavit yesterday.

He says that he took statements from security guards and neighbours and attended Steenkamp's postmortem.
 
  • #576
Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman
Botha: the shots were aimed at the toilet bowl. The toilet is in and to the left
 
  • #577
Why were both iPhones in the bathroom? Was he holding an iPhone as he fired? Did Reeva have both phones in bathroom with her? That's odd.
 
  • #578
Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman

Botha: to obtain the trajectory which created the holes, you'd have to be 1.5m from the door.
Botha: if you walked into the bathroom and fired at the toilet door, you'd miss the toilet inside.
 
  • #579
Shorts I can see to sleep in, but a vest? Is there such a thing as a sleep vest?
Yes, very popular in summer...I have loads of them myself!
 
  • #580
Here they are called a cammi or tank top. The word vest threw me off.
 
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