General Discussion Thread #1 -Bail Hearing

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  • #581
Botha says the fact the shots hit Steenkamp on her right-hand side indicates she was not sitting on the toilet but was hiding in a different position.
 
  • #582
Nel asks Botha if shots were fired directly and toilet basin and he agrees. "If you fire straight at the door, you miss the toilet." :(
 
  • #583
Why were both iPhones in the bathroom? Was he holding an iPhone as he fired? Did Reeva have both phones in bathroom with her? That's odd.


"Barry Bateman‏@barrybateman

#OscarPistorius Botha: two cellphones were found in the bathroom."

I would imagine she MAY have had a phone with her in the loo, and his phone used to call for help...

This is not looking good so far!!!
 
  • #584
Nel says objective facts can't prejudice the state. We'll adjourn for a few minutes.

Roux says he wants the plans to be projected. Nair makes it clear that he doesn't want to prejudice the state's case.

Nair asks if there is a diagram to illustrate this evidence. Roux says he's given one to Nel. BB
 
  • #585
Wow!..oh and Oscar is sobbing again.
 
  • #586
"Barry Bateman‏@barrybateman

#OscarPistorius Botha: two cellphones were found in the bathroom."

I would imagine she MAY have had a phone with her in the loo, and his phone used to call for help...

This is not looking good so far!!!
Only tweets above say neither phone used to call police or ambulance....
 
  • #587
Half hour delay
 
  • #588
Only tweets above say neither phone used to call police or ambulance....

but he managed to call friends, brother...who called the lawyer??
 
  • #589
Thanks Lola, great job so far of keeping us updated.
 
  • #590
but he managed to call friends, brother...who called the lawyer??

Sure because that's who you would normally call as your lover lay dying from accidential gun shot wounds. To repeat what Carol70 said, this is not looking good. :(
 
  • #591
Only tweets above say neither phone used to call police or ambulance....
lol..yep, just saw that...info is comming so fast!

Finally:
Barry Bateman‏@barrybateman

#OscarPistorius the house plans are being projected. I'll hjave a pic up soon. BB
 
  • #592
I have to go get some rest folks. Will check back when I get up for work to see what the outcome of this hearing was. Goodnight all.
 
  • #593
Goodnight Angelonline.
 
  • #594
BarryBateman - recap from the session -

Oscar faces additional charges for having unlicenced ammunition...
he didn't disclose foreign property or bank accounts in statement - IO believes he's a flight risk.
the phones seized show no record of calling the police or paramedics.
what to expect - the state is going through details of where Oscar was when he fired the shots to counter his version
 
  • #595
BarryBateman - recap from the session -

Oscar faces additional charges for having unlicenced ammunition...
he didn't disclose foreign property or bank accounts in statement - IO believes he's a flight risk.
the phones seized show no record of calling the police or paramedics.
what to expect - the state is going through details of where Oscar was when he fired the shots to counter his version


I would guess this is fairly danming.

No record of calling the police or paramedics! This is simply not what he testified to. Did he not realize this was easy to prove?.
 
  • #596
I would guess this is fairly damning.

No record of calling the police or paramedics! This is simply not what he testified to. Did he not realize this was easy to prove?.

If he was taking a lot of steroids then he would have been out of control, and not thinking things through.

I feel sorry for the guy that sent her the Happy Valentines Day message---I bet he feels terrible about what happened now. :cry:
 
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  • #598
No record of calling the police or paramedics! This is simply not what he testified to. Did he not realize this was easy to prove?.


what did OP say about this yesterday? thx
 
  • #599
OP back in the courtroom. he's crying.
 
  • #600
what did OP say about this yesterday? thx


I'll go back and look RHG. My recollection w/o verification was there were calls to security and to get someone to take her for medical treatment. I may be wrong.

Don't quote me, I'll go back and look.

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