General discussion thread No. 15

[BloodshotEye]

*Waving to Christine2448*
Gets curiouser and curiouser, doesn't it...

“Curiouser and curiouser!” Cried Alice (she was so much surprised, that for the moment she quite forgot how to speak good English). “Now I’m opening out like the largest telescope that ever was! Good-bye, feet!” (for when she looked down at her feet they seemed to be almost out of sight, they were getting so far off). - Author, Lewis Carroll: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland: Chapter 2.

An amusing analogy for the ever-changing shape of news reports
http://www.ruthannzaroff.com/wonderland/curiouser.htm
If you need a break, this is an amusing site. Scroll down to the drawing of Alice. If you click and drag your mouse on Alice, you can stretch and pull her shape.

 

[Morag]

I've seen this in several papers, but then I have also seen papers that said this is not an official police statement, and that the police do not support this.

Shrinky

You've seen other papers suggesting the timeline starts at 2PM? Do you recall where? I've been googling and reading many papers and haven't seen the 2PM time anywhere else.

 

[lakes]

Kates eyes.

I dont know if this has been picked up on here, in most of the clips on TV her eyes are telling us something.

I am a Life coach and also run Anger Management courses and i see them sort of eyes a lot, Regret.

This tells me one of two things when i see this in other, 1. They wish they had never done something.
2. they wish they had never been found out.

I still find it hard to split them, even the clients that are sent to me by court and tell me they regret what they did, i am sure there eyes just tell me they regret getting found out.

 

[BloodshotEye]

Morag: That will be fascinating to see, if they really can re-construct the movement of these people, on the night of May 3. How very interesting.

Believe me, I have tried to plot out these comings and goings, on paper. And for the life of me, the time/place at which some of these people claim to have been (in their statments), defies logic. I for one, would be grateful for some other "disinterested" party/piece of technology, that could objectively re-construct the movements of people that night. And if that technology exists, wouldn't they see some movement in/about the McCann apartment, such as the rear entry to the apartment?

And of course, my disclaimer: Yea, I totally know that news reports may be reporting inaccuracies. This is my opinion.

 

[philamena]

There is no way that whoever worked at that incinerator didn't look in those bags! Think about it! That would be the same as Crematorium employees putting bags/boxes into the incinerator without checking them first.:hand:
That just doesn't happen.

 

[KR2tonenow]

http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topi...=172609&version=1&template_id=38&parent_id=20

I didn't see anything about this anywhere:

LONDON: Millionaires who bankrolled the campaign to find Madeleine McCann are refusing to fund her parents’ legal defence, the Evening Standard revealed.

Two wealthy individuals who helped Kate and Gerry McCann in their global search for Madeleine now say they will not pledge any more cash at this time.

When contacted by the Standard they refused to be named because of the sensitivity of the issue. But one leading tycoon said that without knowing the facts about the Madeleine case, it would not be possible to pay for their legal team.

Who would want to be tied in with fraud?

 

[KR2tonenow]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=482027&in_page_id=1770

More of the newly released pictures....

I posted the new pics of Maddie on the Photos thread...if someone else wants to post the wedding and other pics of the parents...feel free...somehow my heart is just not in it today...

Releasing the PR machine in London is working. I have no desire to hear about how "wonderful" the McCanns supposedly are. I rather like the photo where Kate looked like the "crazed psychopath".
:twocents:

(Just trying to cheer you up...)

 

[T-Rex]

Could anyone explain to me, are all the "apartments" owned by the resort--sort of like a motel? Or are they individually owned and rented out, like a time-share? Is there a maid that comes into your room everyday and changes your sheets? A front desk? I'm just not real clear how "enclosed" an environment it was. Thanks!

 

[colomom]

Releasing the PR machine in London is working. I have no desire to hear about how "wonderful" the McCanns supposedly are. I rather like the photo where Kate looked like the "crazed psychopath".
:twocents:

(Just trying to cheer you up...)

:blowkiss: It worked!

Thank you...

 

[colomom]

Could anyone explain to me, are all the "apartments" owned by the resort--sort of like a motel? Or are they individually owned and rented out, like a time-share? Is there a maid that comes into your room everyday and changes your sheets? A front desk? I'm just not real clear how "enclosed" an environment it was. Thanks!

The resort is very large, some areas are owned by Mark Warner/Ocean Club and others are like timeshares, individually owen but managed by companies like Thomas Cook. The apartment that the McCanns rented was privately owned. We found this link that is a description of the exact apartment (before it was sold):

http://www.bookmyvillas.com/villadetails.asp?villaid=10002

No maids, no front desk (a travel manager that you would call for help). More like a timeshare.

The apartments were actually located outside the Mark Warner resort which is surrounded by a six foot wall and can only be entered by passing through a security building.

There are some really good pictures of the resort in the Pictures thread as well.

Hope that helps.

 

[SleuthMom]

Kate Mc Cann smiles after Church service:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...article_id=482136&in_page_id=1770&ito=newsnow

 

[christine2448]

Kate Mc Cann smiles after Church service:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...article_id=482136&in_page_id=1770&ito=newsnow

The smile, not so important to me, a comment from a Serbian poster about the article explained exactly what I am feeling right now..I am guilty.

It is a pity that public attention has switched from the horror of a child's disappearence to the less certain theories about the parents' guilt.

Where is Maddie, I keep asking that question. Wish there were more energy being put on trying to figure that out.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

The smile, not so important to me, a comment from a Serbian poster about the article explained exactly what I am feeling right now..I am guilty.




Where is Maddie, I keep asking that question. Wish there were more energy being put on trying to figure that out.

I feel the same way. The same article stated the Mcccans are upset that about the police not searching for Maddy. I say, "I'm upset the parents have never searched for their daughter other than run out of the apartment and do a search of the block of street where they were vacationing."

 

[christine2448]

I feel the same way. The same article stated the Mcccans are upset that about the police not searching for Maddy. I say, "I'm upset the parents have never searched for their daughter other than run out of the apartment and do a search of the block of street where they were vacationing."

The parents should be looking too. Everyone should be looking for her. Maybe the parents aren't looking because they know where she is. Maybe not. If only we knew.

 

[KR2tonenow]

Kate Mc Cann smiles after Church service:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...article_id=482136&in_page_id=1770&ito=newsnow

She looks horrible...all that stress is paying off.

 

[philamena]

I feel the same way. The same article stated the Mcccans are upset that about the police not searching for Maddy. I say, "I'm upset the parents have never searched for their daughter other than run out of the apartment and do a search of the block of street where they were vacationing."

Excuse my not knowing, but how do you know the McCann's didn't search for their daughter?
I swear, they went to church with the twins and some here think that's awful. The McCann's are damned if they do and damned if they don't with most the posters here.

 

[wtsn5]

Excuse my not knowing, but how do you know the McCann's didn't search for their daughter?
I swear, they went to church with the twins and some here think that's awful. The McCann's are damned if they do and damned if they don't with most the posters here.

I agree, it doesn't matter what the McCanns do people will find fault. Also would the police have allowed them to search. We really don't know what they did or didn't do or what they were told they were legally allowed to do.
Until all the facts have been presented I will presume innocent.

 

[KR2tonenow]

:blowkiss: It worked!

Thank you...

anytime:angel:

 

[T-Rex]

Thanks for the info on the apartment, Colomom!

 

[ceeaura]

Has anyone saw this article ??I posted it in the media link thread.I just had a question though...hasn't the sun really been more Pro-McCann??

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2005320001-2007421066,00.html

Snip:

'I'm thinking the unthinkable'


By OLIVER HARVEY
Chief Feature Writer
September 15, 2007

MY misgivings began with the lack of emotion shown by the McCanns in those first few days after Madeleine went missing.

No streaming tears, no trembling lips, no sobs of despair.
Now that unease has become an awful gnawing doubt.
It hurts me to say this, but I now fear something is amiss with Kate and Gerry’s story.