General Discussions #5

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Raven claimed in a February (?) post that he made that he HAD found a new job. Whether or not he actually did, who knows? But by his own words, he had, and therefore, they would need a sitter.

 

[Timex]

Raven claimed in a February post that he made that he HAD found a new job. Whether or not he actually did, who knows? But by his own words, he had, and therefore, they would need a sitter.

Ahhhh thank ya very much.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Ahhhh thank ya very much.

YW.

I'm trying to find the post but can't. Can anyone help out with the post that Raven made about being back at work, (or however he phrased it)?

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Originally posted by LvsAMystery:

This is the post/message:

NC_VX
02/11/2005, 02:10 PM
St,

I recently landed a new job and for now am trying to keep my VX. If I had 14.5 I would buy your ride in a heartbeat. For now I have the VX under a tarp, I'm gonna ride it around and everyone who asks me about it I will let them know they can get their own piece of history too!

I live in Durham and am trying to get someone together to go to a car show on the 25th. If we hang in the parking lot you can put a for sale sign on the ride... Ya never know!

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ETA: Yet in March, wasn't he back to saying he had to sell it? Back and forth, back and forth ... apparently the idea of parting with the VX was a source of conflict for Raven.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

I would be interested in seeing the posts together of how many times he mentioned selling/not selling his "toys". In chronological order, I imagine it would be very interesting.

 

[lauriej]

...dec.2004...

12/10/2004, 06:41 AM
NC_VX

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Super VXer
99, Ironman VX, 1455
Chapel Hill, NC US
Member Since: Jun 2003
Posts: 200

Negative Attitude Right Now
Ya know, I posted on here that I would never ever get rid of my VX.... NOw it seems I am so close to throwing in the towel. Between my job, a baby, two dogs and a need for more and more space, I'm just not sure the VX fits the bill.

I want to go out and just buy a third vehicle (or make my VX my third Vehicle), but I'm having a tough time coming up with funds to pay for it, so it seems like parting with the VX is the right way to go..... HOWEVER, even my wife is on my side now by saying I can't sell something that I've spent so much time and money on.

Ultimitly, I need to come up with some funds to keep me from selling the VX... I feel so guilty even considering selling it...

I'm ashamed!

__________________
-The Rave-
North Carolina

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Ultimitly, I need to come up with some funds to keep me from selling the VX... I feel so guilty even considering selling it...

I'm ashamed!

This part of Raven's post is frankly alarming. Why would one feel GUILT or SHAME about selling their VX???

 

[Timex]

I find the going back and forth interesting, but not sure I find it unusual. We have done the same thing with our house at one time. Went so far as to put it on the market...then take it off because we just couldnt follow through...then put it back on...We knew what we needed to do, but loved the house so much actually doing it was more than we wanted to think about.

And I cant begin to tell you how many times we have had something for sale, and hubby has decided he doesnt really want to sell it. Why? I have no idea..he just likes to keep stuff I guess.

 

[Timex]

This part of Raven's post is frankly alarming. Why would one feel GUILT or SHAME about selling their VX???

The same reason Harley owners have such feeling. I dont understand it, but I know the feelings are there.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

The same reason Harley owners have such feeling. I dont understand it, but I know the feelings are there.

You're probably right but it all strikes me so weird. Where's the priority ... family or cars? He says he's selling, says he's not, says he is, says he's not ... then talks about feeling guilty and ashamed ... all of this after finding out that there's this whole big "family" of VX owners that he hasn't taken the time to get to know.

I'm probably grabbing at straws but something about the whole scenario with the VX, and Raven's feelings about it, gives me the creeps. (Just as a note - none of this makes Raven a murdered, just really, really creepy.)

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

...dec.2004...

12/10/2004, 06:41 AM
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Chapel Hill, NC US
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Posts: 200
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Negative Attitude Right Now
Ya know, I posted on here that I would never ever get rid of my VX.... NOw it seems I am so close to throwing in the towel. Between my job, a baby, two dogs and a need for more and more space, I'm just not sure the VX fits the bill.

I want to go out and just buy a third vehicle (or make my VX my third Vehicle), but I'm having a tough time coming up with funds to pay for it, so it seems like parting with the VX is the right way to go..... HOWEVER, even my wife is on my side now by saying I can't sell something that I've spent so much time and money on.

Ultimitly, I need to come up with some funds to keep me from selling the VX... I feel so guilty even considering selling it...

I'm ashamed!

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-The Rave-
North Carolina

NC_VX
03/24/2004
03:19 PM

..........You may owe some on it and are hoping to get that back, but unfortunatly for all of us that got loans for the full value when buying new really didn't come out being able to sell. I was in your position until I found this site.... Decided I wanted to keep it and live with what I got!!! I fell in love with my VX after that!
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http://www.vehicross.info/forums/ar...php/t-6324.html

NC_VX
03/02/2005
07:57 AM

I'm not one to complain for those who choose to part with their vehicles as I am selling my 99 as well.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:...C_VX+wife&hl=en

NC_VX
01/20/2005
09:39 AM

I fall into the Jobless statistics that CNN reads out these days. SHIZZZ.

I'm looking hard, but its really difficult to start over.

So, I am asking $13,000 O.B.O for my pride and joy...



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NC_VX
02/03/2005
02:34 PM

Thanks for the warm wishes. At the ripe old age of 25 I am learning to grow up. I guess a child and some bad turns does that for you! All in all, my wife and I are loving life and things are really looking up. Just the other day I got a job offer. While its not in the range I was hoping to make, I think I am going to take it because it is something I love to do and I ahve the potential of earning more money in the short term if I am successful.

My wife is working full time too. Its been h ard on her being away from our little guy all day, but we have a wonderful friend who is watching him and we are spending 100% of our time with hime when we aren't at work!

I may not sell the VX after all!!!



NC_VX
02/15/2005
10:42 AM

I am now working for an IT training company out of Raleigh, however I am not making near what I need to survive. I am still steadily interviewing for some higher paying jobs and one job I am in as a finalist.

I've decided that parting with the VX is going to be what I need to do. I am going to go to the complete lowest I can go to hopefully sell within 30 days as I am a few payments behind as of today and don't think I can catch up in my current state.

With that said, I am willing to part with this guy for an unbelievably low price of:
11,900.00

This includes all accessories and a VX that is truly unique! Anyone interested feel free to call at 919-593-4535

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Okay, so so far we have:

Dec. 10, 2004 - Raven begins to contemplate selling the VX but sounds very sad about it, and expresses guilt and shame.

January 20 & January 25, 2005- Raven states that he WILL be selling the VX.

February 3 & 11, 2005 - Raven's posts indicate that he will NOT be selling the VX.

February 15 and March 2, 2005 - Raven indicates that he WILL be selling the VX.

February 24, 2005 - Raven indicates that he will NOT be selling the VX.

April/May 2005 - Raven drives the VX to Janet's funeral so we know that it still hadn't been sold at that point.

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IMO, this demonstrates more than a love for or pride in a car. It also demonstrates an ongoing struggle within Raven about what he needed to do to get his life together.

ETA: And IMO, these posts of his might be a lot more important than they seem on the surface.

 

[golfmom]

I am now working for an IT training company out of Raleigh, however I am not making near what I need to survive. I am still steadily interviewing for some higher paying jobs and one job I am in as a finalist.

Do you remember the picture of him at the computer with Kaiden?
I thought the wording was odd . . .

4/24/05: Kaiden thought it would be fun to help daddy prepare his home-teaching lesson, then he decided it was time for a photo opp, then he high-tailed it out of there!

home-teaching lesson, I guess that related to his IT training company out of Raleigh . . . . sounds like a new area to try sleuthing!

 

[golfmom]

ETA: And IMO, these posts of his might be a lot more important than they seem on the surface.

I've always thought that the VX posts revealed a lot about Raven.

JG, do you remember the VX / ADD comment?

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

When we put all of this together with the following concepts, it makes one curious at minimum:

It appears that Janet found a new job in January. If she had benefits, including life insurance, it would most likely kick in after a 90 day probationary period. That would bring us to some point in April. Janet died on April 26th.

Also, the landlord gave the Abaroa's two month's free rent, and the church gave them another month's payment. We've determined that that period was most likely February, March, and April but could have been January, February, and March. If it was the former, then Janet just happened to die just before their free rent was due to expire but just after her benefits kicked in.

I don't know if she had life insurance or not but these are definitely things to consider, especially with the obvious back and forth thought process Raven was experiencing in regards to what he needed to do to get his finances under control.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

I've always thought that the VX posts revealed a lot about Raven.

JG, do you remember the VX / ADD comment?

I remember something about it but can you post it again here? Also, did we determine for sure that her company's probationary period was 90 days? And that they provided life insurance? I believe that we did on both of those issues.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

We also need posted here the comment about the "family" of VX'ers that Raven found. Is that here in close proximity somewhere?

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:...C_VX+wife&hl=en

NC_VX0
5/07/2004
08:48 AM

So, at one point I was on the lower half of that pole. I started off loving every minute of it. I bought a S2000, and my Ducati and decided I wanted a Jeep instead. I hadn't listed the VX ever, but I started making (yes, I had to force her, she hated it from day 1, but it eventually grew on her and she was mad when I took it back) my wife drive it around since I traveled for work a lot. I dind't much care for the goofiness of the vehicle, like not having a trunk popper, hard to access rear seats, horrible rear view, sucky mileage.... I was looking at unloading it and realized I would have to take a sizeable loss to do that. I was STUCK with this freakin car..... BOOOM, one day I found this website. I only looked through it for about 30 minutes, mostly to see what "bad" stuff I could find about the car to add to my frustration with the huge loss I would take.

........blah, blah, blah ... figured out how to dump a lot more money into a vehicle he hated at this point so that he would now love it...........

Yeah, I'm 24 but I've owned 25 vehicles, including 6 motorcycles.

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I hated loosing money on cars, but I felt I had this disease where I lost interest, like a severe form of ADHD for adults.... But this was my medicine. It is so exciting to look forward to modding my VX and meeting all the other owners.... IN a nutshell, I WILL NEVER EVER SELL MY VX.. In fact, got a little one on the way (Oct due date). By then I hope to have a DVD screen in the front and a drop down screen in the back.... Barney, here we come!!!!!!

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

NC_VX
04/13/2004
10:03 AM
A Very Long Drive

So, I'm in Chicago next week for business, flying in Sunday and then staying through Wednesday afternoon.... Sounds fun, will enjoy the site seeing... Then I am turning around and driving to Indiana from North Carolina! I am crazy!!!!

-The Rave-
North Carolina

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Even when he's traveling for work, and making the choice to drive it, he has to point out how "crazy" he is to do such a thing! Can anyone say attention-seeker? Good grief! :sick: :sick: :sick: