General theory thread and motives rehashed #3

[krkrjx]

it wouldn't surprise me a bit if she doesn't have a matching "Ron" on her backside as well. The way she is talking to her mom from jail about Ron just makes me :sick: 'Mom, mom, guess what... Guess who I just rode with...". Like a 3 yr old that has just seen Santa.

LOL...I don't know why but this really made me laugh out loud.

It IS rather icky that a 19 year old gal would feel this about her cousin, FGS!

 

[Nonni Brenda]

LOL...I don't know why but this really made me laugh out loud.

It IS rather icky that a 19 year old gal would feel this about her cousin, FGS!

Glad to be of service K...If we didn't laugh occasionally we really would be :crazy:
ETA: Especially a cousin she had been in the cemetary with hunting deer...LOL

 

[lonetraveler]

it wouldn't surprise me a bit if she doesn't have a matching "Ron" on her backside as well. The way she is talking to her mom from jail about Ron just makes me :sick: 'Mom, mom, guess what... Guess who I just rode with...". Like a 3 yr old that has just seen Santa.

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh: Nonni once again you read my mind. We are truly becoming physic sisters...............LOL. I was already invisioning the twin tattoo.............really. :crazy:

 

[lonetraveler]

Thank God that Jr. will get a chance to grow up without this kind of a father. I wish Crystal the best for her and her children. Jr. should be what, about 15-16 when Ron gets out?

I hope and pray that Jr. is not a very angry young man at that age but I can understand if he is.........

 

[Nonni Brenda]

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh: Nonni once again you read my mind. We are truly becoming physic sisters...............LOL. I was already invisioning the twin tattoo.............really. :crazy:

Scarey, ain't it??? LOL

 

[Whisperer]

Crystal has a lot of work ahead of her. I hope JR is in counseling. The child's personality is developed in the first 4 years. Jr. must be six by now. I wish she could change his name...and she could since they weren't married. The first thing rc will go when he gets out is after jr.

CS has still not filed for any Child Support. Who is guiding her? I hope she isn't making any visits to Liberty Prison w/jr. Big mistake if she has. He can show the court cause if she does this.
RC is most likely writing and begging her for visits. I hope she doesn't fall for this ploy.

It would behoove her to recall he blamed her for taking and hiding Haleigh. He will do or say anything to get what he wants..

 

[dodie20]

Crystal has a lot of work ahead of her. I hope JR is in counseling. The child's personality is developed in the first 4 years. Jr. must be six by now. I wish she could change his name...and she could since they weren't married. The first thing rc will go when he gets out is after jr.

CS has still not filed for any Child Support. Who is guiding her? I hope she isn't making any visits to Liberty Prison w/jr. Big mistake if she has. He can show the court cause if she does this.
RC is most likely writing and begging her for visits. I hope she doesn't fall for this ploy.

It would behoove her to recall he blamed her for taking and hiding Haleigh. He will do or say anything to get what he wants..

Ron may love his kids, he probably does, but by any standards, he did a terrible job while he had custody. One's gone for good, it seems, and he lost custody of the other because he went to prison for drug trafficking. But, I'm not so sure how I feel about visitation. I wasn't bothered like some people, when LC took her son to visit Tommy. Those kids want to see their dads and not getting to see them might cause emotional problems or abandonment issues. These dads are facts of their lives, and I'm the kind of person who thinks reality should be faced and dealt with. If it comes out that Ron did have something to do with Haleigh missing, I'll feel completely different. Even people like me, draw the line somewhere. I'm not sure CS or LC are in the position to make good decisions regarding Ron and Tommy, because they both seem to be back and forth where they're concerned...can't say I blame them. What a mess these dads have caused for their children. I'm just thankful Misty and Hope didn't have any little ones to leave behind. MOO

 

[Whisperer]

Have to disagree with you there, Dodie, a very first time. Jr doesn't need to see his violent, immature and possibly a murderer/or covering for one self. That crosses the line. Kids don't belong in prison visiting anyone. Crystal can find a man and hopefully one with better standards to fill the void for this lousy parent.

 

[Whisperer]

Giving rc the upper hand and bringing jr to him is going to cause problems for her in the future. He can go to a Court and say he continued to see his son while incarcerated. One judge believed him before and it can happen again. This guy is trouble. I say keep jr. a way, far away from him.

LC is a co-dependent with her own issues and CS has been burned by this guy (Big Time) before. What a foolish mistake to bring jr and let him stay connected with this manipulator!

 

[dodie20]

Giving rc the upper hand and bringing jr to him is going to cause problems for her in the future. He can go to a Court and say he continued to see his son while incarcerated. One judge believed him before and it can happen again. This guy is trouble. I say keep jr. a way, far away from him.

LC is a co-dependent with her own issues and CS has been burned by this guy (Big Time) before. What a foolish mistake to bring jr and let him stay connected with this manipulator!

you're probably right. I've never dealt with anybody with a long prison sentence, just a couple of years tops, so there was light at the end of the tunnel. And regardless of what anybody says, 15 years is a long, long time...not sweet at all. Jr will be almost grown. MOO.

 

[krkrjx]

Crystal has a lot of work ahead of her. I hope JR is in counseling. The child's personality is developed in the first 4 years. Jr. must be six by now. I wish she could change his name...and she could since they weren't married. The first thing rc will go when he gets out is after jr.

CS has still not filed for any Child Support. Who is guiding her? I hope she isn't making any visits to Liberty Prison w/jr. Big mistake if she has. He can show the court cause if she does this.
RC is most likely writing and begging her for visits. I hope she doesn't fall for this ploy.

It would behoove her to recall he blamed her for taking and hiding Haleigh. He will do or say anything to get what he wants..

I could not agree more with this post. I hope Crystal is in counseling as well. I do not see any self-esteem there, but was relieved when Crystal went up against TN and AS to get custody. I don't think it would have taken much for Crystal to be beaten down at that time, and I think she could easily fall for RC's manipulative ways even now. Still, I would not be a bit surprised to hear Crystal is visiting RC in prison and taking her son there. She might have *forgotten* all about RC's accusations that she had taken Haleigh.

As for Junior feeling abadonment if he doesn't see RC, I think that ship has sailed. IMO Junior was abandoned by his father even while in his custody.

 

[Emeralgem]

Giving rc the upper hand and bringing jr to him is going to cause problems for her in the future. He can go to a Court and say he continued to see his son while incarcerated. One judge believed him before and it can happen again. This guy is trouble. I say keep jr. a way, far away from him.

LC is a co-dependent with her own issues and CS has been burned by this guy (Big Time) before. What a foolish mistake to bring jr and let him stay connected with this manipulator!

As I see it seems she is still believing the lies and allowing herself to be manipulated by Ron C and family even after everything they have put her through concerning Haleigh so I doubt she is staying away from him or will keep Jr. away from him...What can I say other than some people just seem to never learn...Hopefully someday soon she will wake up and realize she has been viciously betrayed by Ron C and his family in the worst possible way... JMHO.

 

[Flossie JMO]

Well, its very much standard for every couple having custody issues, to go through these parenting classes, Ronald was ordered to do these after he met Misty and DCF had started showing up, for whatever reasons.

His pastor also said he worked 8 hours that night.....

And I cant really pretend I know who Crystal loves and to what extent, but usually women never want to believe someone they once loved and laid down with and made children with them, could hurt them, I mean no mother wants to think that towards any of their ex's, but this life is not fair, and fathers and mothers kill their children everyday. Ronald also sat in prison and told Teresa it was either Crystal or Misty who took his child.... that is just terrible.

I think they both needed some help and advice with parenting, and they got it, I think that's a good thing.

I do think there is a lot of support for Ronald and his family, DCF investigated and found no grounds to the complaints iirc, the pastor who I think mistook what Ron said meaning a regular work day seems quite supportive of the family. The families are closer now obviously from what we've seen, I am also very happy about that and it's good for all of them, especiallyJunior.

I think some things have been said by both Crystal and Ron that they no doubt regret, they're both young and have been under tremendous stress, they've moved past. I don't think anyone knows Ronald better really than Teresa, Crystal, Annette and his pastor. I feel very badly for Crystal, Junior, Teresa and Annette, they clearly love Ronald and HaLeigh very much.

 

[Chablis]

I think they both needed some help and advice with parenting, and they got it, I think that's a good thing.

I do think there is a lot of support for Ronald and his family, DCF investigated and found no grounds to the complaints iirc, the pastor who I think mistook what Ron said meaning a regular work day seems quite supportive of the family. The families are closer now obviously from what we've seen, I am also very happy about that and it's good for all of them, especiallyJunior.

I think some things have been said by both Crystal and Ron that they no doubt regret, they're both young and have been under tremendous stress, they've moved past. I don't think anyone knows Ronald better really than Teresa, Crystal, Annette and his pastor. I feel very badly for Crystal, Junior, Teresa and Annette, they clearly love Ronald and HaLeigh very much.

He told his pastor he worked 8 hours, and came home to find his child gone. See, I just personally cannot chalk up everyone who says something about Ronald as being mistaken. I also know that people have asked the pastor to clarify, and he is refusing to say anything. He is even refusing to admit he mis spoke, if he did.

I believe the pastor.

 

[Flossie JMO]

He told his pastor he worked 8 hours, and came home to find his child gone. See, I just personally cannot chalk up everyone who says something about Ronald as being mistaken. I also know that people have asked the pastor to clarify, and he is refusing to say anything. He is even refusing to admit he mis spoke, if he did.

I believe the pastor.

We haven't heard the conversation he had with his pastor, and I believe the pastor, I think the comment about the hours was an error, and not an important one at that. I think the pastor is very sincere and cares very much about Ronald and his family.

 

[Eileen730]

He told his pastor he worked 8 hours, and came home to find his child gone. See, I just personally cannot chalk up everyone who says something about Ronald as being mistaken. I also know that people have asked the pastor to clarify, and he is refusing to say anything. He is even refusing to admit he mis spoke, if he did.

I believe the pastor.

I think we should believe a time clock not a pastor!

the pastor can only tell what ron said to him he has no way of knowing if rc was at work when he said he was unless he was right there with him!

Also isnt this the same pastor that refused to marry he and misty?

 

[Flossie JMO]

I think we should believe a time clock not a pastor!

the pastor can only tell what ron said to him he has no way of knowing if rc was at work when he said he was unless he was right there with him!

Also isnt this the same pastor that refused to marry he and misty?

That's a good point too, I understand what you're saying even thought I do believe the pastor. He's been a good support to the family.

 

[lonetraveler]

I could not agree more with this post. I hope Crystal is in counseling as well. I do not see any self-esteem there, but was relieved when Crystal went up against TN and AS to get custody. I don't think it would have taken much for Crystal to be beaten down at that time, and I think she could easily fall for RC's manipulative ways even now. Still, I would not be a bit surprised to hear Crystal is visiting RC in prison and taking her son there. She might have *forgotten* all about RC's accusations that she had taken Haleigh.

As for Junior feeling abadonment if he doesn't see RC, I think that ship has sailed. IMO Junior was abandoned by his father even while in his custody.[/QUOTE]

BBM: I totally feel the same way. I think that those two children were just a hindrance to Ron and he kept them just to get back at Crystal for leaving him. He most likely received a check each month for each of them since he could prove that he definitely didn't work very much.:banghead:

 

[lonetraveler]

That's a good point too, I understand what you're saying even thought I do believe the pastor. He's been a good support to the family.

IMO, the pastor's only knowledge about Ron's work hours is from what Ron has told him. Period.

 

[Flossie JMO]

IMO, the pastor's only knowledge about Ron's work hours is from what Ron has told him. Period.

Absolutely.