General theory thread and motives rehashed #3

[4Jacy]

I did read somewhere that the FBI helped out with the phone records. That is all I know about the FBI's involvement except for what you posted that PCSO did not take their offer to help.

Doesn't the FBI have more power then the PSCO. For God's sake, why wouldn't they take all the help from them or anyone else. Something stinks down there and I am horrified about LE and every other FL law enforcement in Putnam CO!! (((

 

[dodie20]

I've been having a problem lately with my left ear. Background noises on phone calls are so loud that it is painful. The person voice on the phone is normal, I'm just having problems with extremely loud noises in the background. I'm wondering if this is why I heard the background noises much more clearly than before...........:waitasec:

I'm going to replay (probably for multiple times) a section of Ron talking in the background in response to Misty asking him "What did you do with H......". Something strange in what I thought I heard (in my bad ear,LOL). I'll get back to y'all.:crazy:

I recently got a new set of headphones & I listened to a different 911 last night. I heard things I had never heard before. A lot of background speak had been garbled, but I heard a couple of things that stunned me. I would say, but it's just not clear enough to be sure. MOO.

 

[dodie20]

can someone listen to about 1:56 on to about 2:03 & share with me what you hear? I'm hearing a couple of very distinct things, amidst the garble & beeps. thanks & MOO. AT 2:47, I'm hearing Misty say, IMO, 'what if she heard that', in response to an exchange between Ron & Misty. again, MOO.

 

[dodie20]

I've got my headphones on & I'm concentrating on the beeped & garbled sections. If I turn the volume up, & then put my arrow on the video's sliding bar, & reclick certain spots, I can make out a lot of things. MOO. It hasn't been redacted, so I guess it's ok. MOO.

 

[Nonni Brenda]

OK, I just listened again several times. I am convinced 100% that the person responding to the name questions is not Misty. It's just not her, no way...and it's certainly not Ron. Especially since in that time frame of several seconds I can hear Misty and Ron in the background. I don't know for sure what she's saying in the backround, but it is Misty. (I am not very convinced anymore that I hear yet another person, that I had mentioned in a previous post).

"That's my last name, not hers" is said by someone other than Misty or Ron. I hear what you are thinking is "Neves" and yes, it certainly could be...but I'm not fully convinced of that. My laptop does not have great speakers, though, so you and others might be able pick up more detail than I can. The person could just as easily have said "Yes" and then went on to say that was their last name not hers.

I cannot say I hear Misty asking Ron what he did with her...not saying it isn't what's said, just saying I can't say for sure that's what's on the tape given the speakers I am listening through.

I'm not sure either that the 3rd voice is saying "Neves". It could be, but it could be "yes", what someone would say if the phone is quickly passed to them. I definitely think it is not Misty's voice, as I do hear Misty and Ron talking in the background. I do seem to hear Misty say " What did you do...", but I'm not sure what comes after that. And my speakers are cheap ones and my hearing is not very good either. But I would bet good money that there is a 3rd voice on this tape! JMO Gonna go back and listen still one more time.

 

[lonetraveler]

can someone listen to about 1:56 on to about 2:03 & share with me what you hear? I'm hearing a couple of very distinct things, amidst the garble & beeps. thanks & MOO. AT 2:47, I'm hearing Misty say, IMO, 'what if she heard that', in response to an exchange between Ron & Misty. again, MOO.

I don't want to discourage you but I have been listening to at least six different audios of this 911 call and you can catch the background phrases in some and not in others. I wish the heck we had the un-redacted (is this a real word?) version. It pizzzzs me off that the calls are even redacted in the first place. Why would LE do that if they are not trying to hide something. At this late stage in the so-called intestigation, I don't think that it would hurt anything to have the entire clean version out there. It isn't as if they had secret information that they used to solve this case now is it? :banghead:

 

[krkrjx]

I don't want to discourage you but I have been listening to at least six different audios of this 911 call and you can catch the background phrases in some and not in others. I wish the heck we had the un-redacted (is this a real word?) version. It pizzzzs me off that the calls are even redacted in the first place. Why would LE do that if they are not trying to hide something. At this late stage in the so-called intestigation, I don't think that it would hurt anything to have the entire clean version out there. It isn't as if they had secret information that they used to solve this case now is it? :banghead:

One of the most telling portions of this recording has been sliced out. It was in the beginning, and Ron is in the background but very clearly stating, "We're #@*ed!"

Not trying to be rude or crude here, but the situation is what it is and our players speak the way they do. I heard that version a long while back ...and it was definitely Ron's voice, and there was no doubt whatsoever about what he said.

 

[dodie20]

I don't want to discourage you but I have been listening to at least six different audios of this 911 call and you can catch the background phrases in some and not in others. I wish the heck we had the un-redacted (is this a real word?) version. It pizzzzs me off that the calls are even redacted in the first place. Why would LE do that if they are not trying to hide something. At this late stage in the so-called intestigation, I don't think that it would hurt anything to have the entire clean version out there. It isn't as if they had secret information that they used to solve this case now is it? :banghead:

There has been a lot of ridicule for Misty's long pauses, not paying attention to the operator, changing moods, dense answers, etc...I think a lot of that might have to do with editing. IDC who you are, you can't stop/start emotion like that. ESPECIALLY if you're faking, because you'd know better. ughhh...I have a sinking feeling that a lot of answers are in that 911, & once it all does come out, we're all gonna be flabbergasted. MOO

 

[dodie20]

One of the most telling portions of this recording has been sliced out. It was in the beginning, and Ron is in the background but very clearly stating, "We're #@*ed!"

Not trying to be rude or crude here, but the situation is what it is and our players speak the way they do. I heard that version a long while back ...and it was definitely Ron's voice, and there was no doubt whatsoever about what he said.

I heard pretty clearly someone say 'if (you? he?), tries to say this was an accident, (you're, he's), lying'. That question mark could answer a lot of questions. I also heard Misty refer to what I thought was Hope, (moo). But, like you, I don't get why it all isn't released & let the chips fall where they may. If they're accusing an unnamed suspect, then release it with a disclaimer, but like you, I don't get the point of sitting on that tape. another thing...the transcripts I've read, don't do this tape justice. MOO.

 

[lonetraveler]

I heard pretty clearly someone say 'if (you? he?), tries to say this was an accident, (you're, he's), lying'. That question mark could answer a lot of questions. I also heard Misty refer to what I thought was Hope, (moo). But, like you, I don't get why it all isn't released & let the chips fall where they may. If they're accusing an unnamed suspect, then release it with a disclaimer, but like you, I don't get the point of sitting on that tape. another thing...the transcripts I've read, don't do this tape justice. MOO.

You are right, the transcripts just breeze over and the background talking isn't captured. At what point did you hear the "accident and lying" part? How can LE point the finger at Misty and put blinders on regarding any investigation of anyone else who may have been in that MH :maddening: I just don't get it.

 

[krkrjx]

I heard pretty clearly someone say 'if (you? he?), tries to say this was an accident, (you're, he's), lying'. That question mark could answer a lot of questions. I also heard Misty refer to what I thought was Hope, (moo). But, like you, I don't get why it all isn't released & let the chips fall where they may. If they're accusing an unnamed suspect, then release it with a disclaimer, but like you, I don't get the point of sitting on that tape. another thing...the transcripts I've read, don't do this tape justice. MOO.

There are certain things on tapes like this that LE has to redact prior to releasing the recording to the media. If Misty gave her name they would redact it because she was a minor, for example. They probably also redacted some other content...however, in the very beginning the 911 call was much more complete than anything I can find available now. Not only was the original call edited by LE, it was further edited by the media because the media felt the public could not handle the language on the tape...so the media sanitized it before putting it out to the public. But that didn't happen right away, in the beginning the recording was available to be heard much more intact. All the beeping you hear on the tape now? Most of those are where the media removed the F-words, etc. I heard this 911 call at the onset and believe me I barely even recognize it now as being about the same incident.

 

[Concerned Papa]

There are certain things on tapes like this that LE has to redact prior to releasing the recording to the media. If Misty gave her name they would redact it because she was a minor, for example. They probably also redacted some other content...however, in the very beginning the 911 call was much more complete than anything I can find available now. Not only was the original call edited by LE, it was further edited by the media because the media felt the public could not handle the language on the tape...so the media sanitized it before putting it out to the public. But that didn't happen right away, in the beginning the recording was available to be heard much more intact. All the beeping you hear on the tape now? Most of those are where the media removed the F-words, etc. I heard this 911 call at the onset and believe me I barely even recognize it now as being about the same incident.

Back then, for whatever reason, I didn't pay that much attention to the 911 call for the first few days. I wish I had, but I didn't.

The only point I'm making is that the tape Lone brought up was posted at YouTube on 2/11. If it's redacted, by whoever, they did it in a hurry.

 

[krkrjx]

Back then, for whatever reason, I didn't pay that much attention to the 911 call for the first few days. I wish I had, but I didn't.

The only point I'm making is that the tape Lone brought up was posted at YouTube on 2/11. If it's redacted, by whoever, they did it in a hurry.

Papa, I am not referring specifically to Lonetraveler's version. It's actually one of the ones I can hear more clearly. In the beginning there were two or three versions of the same tape available, and one of those included the very beginning of the call...where Ron is going on and on and says "We're f***ed." I understand the media thinking this needed to be cleaned up for the masses to hear but when you take stuff like that out you sanitize the situation as well as the language. Ron going off like that in the background at the very onset of this case is pretty important, IMO. I do not think Lone's tape is doctored in any way, just that it is not the most complete version that was ever available even though it dates back to 2/09 because at that time there were several releases available, one of which was LE-redacted but not media-redacted.

 

[EastCoast]

If you listen closely, the 911 call is redacted. I feel like that is probably per PCSO. There are definitaly some important things missing. Such as the spelling of first name, etc. That is left out. But I must add if someone else, besides Ron and Misty were there at the time of the call, that would be very bold of them, to high tail it out of there, before LE arrived, what was it, seven minutes later?

 

[krkrjx]

If you listen closely, the 911 call is redacted. I feel like that is probably per PCSO. There are definitaly some important things missing. Such as the spelling of first name, etc. That is left out. But I must add if someone else, besides Ron and Misty were there at the time of the call, that would be very bold of them, to high tail it out of there, before LE arrived, what was it, seven minutes later?

Very bold indeed! But I think that's exactly what happened. It sure sounds like TN's voice to me. But didn't she say over and over on NG and also Greta shows that she arrived minutes after LE? If she was there during the 911 call why would she leave only to return minutes later?

Way too hinky, iMO. And where there's hink there's stink.

 

[Concerned Papa]

Papa, I am not referring specifically to Lonetraveler's version. It's actually one of the ones I can hear more clearly. In the beginning there were two or three versions of the same tape available, and one of those included the very beginning of the call...where Ron is going on and on and says "We're f***ed." I understand the media thinking this needed to be cleaned up for the masses to hear but when you take stuff like that out you sanitize the situation as well as the language. Ron going off like that in the background at the very onset of this case is pretty important, IMO. I do not think Lone's tape is doctored in any way, just that it is not the most complete version that was ever available even though it dates back to 2/09 because at that time there were several releases available, one of which was LE-redacted but not media-redacted.

I never heard the ""We're f***ed", and frankly, never heard of it until now, but you did and that's good enough for me.

I never heard Misty say "What did you do with her", but Lone heard it and that's also good enough for me.

Now, I'm hearing for myself what sounds like possibly TN's voice saying her own last name.

We know LE has the unredacted, unadulterated version of the call. It really makes you wonder, if these words are actually on there, why hasn't someone been charged?

 

[EastCoast]

ok, lets just say TN was on high alert. She could have planned that out much better than to show up way too soon with a sheriffs dept. jacket. Maybe that was a not planned out so well thing. Who else would show up with an 8 by 10 photo? That makes no sense. I know that is going back to the basics at this point.

 

[dodie20]

Back then, for whatever reason, I didn't pay that much attention to the 911 call for the first few days. I wish I had, but I didn't.

The only point I'm making is that the tape Lone brought up was posted at YouTube on 2/11. If it's redacted, by whoever, they did it in a hurry.

I didn't pay close attention then, for the same reason it took me months to listen to some of those jail tapes. I can't explain it, but they make me feel ashamed-like I'm getting into somebody's head. Also, the 911 now, doesn't make me feel as bad as it 1st did, (I guess because of the butchering), but at 1st, that thing made me as uncomfortable as heck. I felt like I was listening to the fakest & worst acting I had ever heard. MOO.

 

[lonetraveler]

Very bold indeed! But I think that's exactly what happened. It sure sounds like TN's voice to me. But didn't she say over and over on NG and also Greta shows that she arrived minutes after LE? If she was there during the 911 call why would she leave only to return minutes later?

Way too hinky, iMO. And where there's hink there's stink.

Have we ever heard what vehicle Teresa Neves was driving that night? I do know that it was determined that she drove a red pickup but did she drive it that night when she "arrived" following the 911 call?

 

[lonetraveler]

I never heard the ""We're f***ed", and frankly, never heard of it until now, but you did and that's good enough for me.

I never heard Misty say "What did you do with her", but Lone heard it and that's also good enough for me.

Now, I'm hearing for myself what sounds like possibly TN's voice saying her own last name.

We know LE has the unredacted, unadulterated version of the call. It really makes you wonder, if these words are actually on there, why hasn't someone been charged?[/QUOTE]

That is one of my biggest wonders as well.