General theory thread and motives rehashed #3

[Nonni Brenda]

I know very little about gun, locks,etc, but is it possible that while breaking the lock off the gun, the gun went off and shot Haleigh? Maybe when whoever was trying to steal the gun this happened? Tommy, Joe, Misty? But they why would Ron and TN and AS have gone into such cover-up mode? Just thinking out loud...

 

[krkrjx]

Sorry, this does not go with the current discussion here but I had to move it here because it was way OT for where I had it posted.
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I will admit to entertaining the idea that someone else did it. For one thing--and I'm sure I am opening a can of worms though that's not my intent--I would really like to see Chad Reynolds apprehended. I believe in coincidence but CR disappearing at the same time Haleigh did is just way too convenient, IMO.

I believe it would be possible for Misty to sleep through an abduction; I just don't believe that is what happened.

I believe it is possible Tommy could be the perp but, if he is, I do not see it as something intentional. Maybe Tommy thought no one was at the MH when he went there so he went in to steal--drugs, guns, whatever--and Haleigh confronted him.

I believe it is possible those two kids were home alone for at least part of that evening. And with that, anyone could have entered...

I believe it is possible that Haleigh suffered an unintentional but serious injury that went unnoticed until she took a turn for the worse a couple hours later...and the condition of her body was such that those responsible for her welfare could not risk her being found.

I have had to look seriously at the possibility that Misty killed Haleigh. Again, I do not believe it was intentional but perhaps a heat-of-the-moment incident. Misty may have hit Haleigh harder than she intended, then panicked and went about staging an abduction scene. However, I am a little less inclined now to believe this scenario since it has been reported that Misty was offered complete immunity and still has not been forthcoming.

I have entertained the idea that Ronald Cummings may be not guilty in his daughter's demise, but being not guilty is not the same as being innocent. There is no way Ronald is innocent but, unfortunately, it seems the camps are either totally for Ron's guilt or totally for his innocence. I find it impossible to overlook the environment in which Haleigh and Junior lived, and that environment and the antics of the so-called "adults" are without a doubt in my mind what led to this tragedy. Ronald Cummings will always be responsible for that, IMO.

Also, of all the odd and often disgusting behaviors seen in this case, Ron marrying Misty takes the cake, IMO. How the father of a missing child can lie down next to the key in his child's disappearance is something I just cannot comprehend. I can only think Ronald was able to do this because he knew without a doubt that Misty did not harm Haleigh...which begs the question how could he know?

 

[Nonni Brenda]

Sorry, this does not go with the current discussion here but I had to move it here because it was way OT for where I had it posted.
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I will admit to entertaining the idea that someone else did it. For one thing--and I'm sure I am opening a can of worms though that's not my intent--I would really like to see Chad Reynolds apprehended. I believe in coincendence but CR disappearing at the same time Haleigh did is just way too convenient, IMO.
I believe it would be possible for Misty to sleep through an abduction; I just don't believe that is what happened.

I believe it is possible Tommy could be the perp but, if he is, I do not see it as something intentional. Maybe Tommy thought no one was at the MH when he went there so he went in to steal--drugs, guns, whatever--and Haleigh confronted him.

I believe it is possible those two kids were home alone for at least part of that evening. And with that, anyone could have entered...

I believe it is possible that Haleigh suffered an unintentional but serious injury that went unnoticed until she took a turn for the worse a couple hours later...and the condition of her body was such that those responsible for her welfare could not risk her being found.

I have had to look seriously at the possibility that Misty killed Haleigh. Again, I do not believe it was intentional but perhaps a heat-of-the-moment incident. Misty may have hit Haleigh harder than she intended, then panicked and went about staging an abduction scene. However, I am a little less inclined now to believe this scenarios since it has been reported that Misty was offered complete immunity and still has not been forthcoming.

I have entertained the idea that Ronald Cummings may be not guilty in his daughter's demise, but being not guilty is not the same as being innocent. There is no way Ronald is innocent but, unfortunately, it seems the camps are either totally for Ron's guilt or totally for his innocence. I find it impossible to overlook the environment in which Haleigh and Junior lived, and that environment and the antics of the so-called "adults" are without a doubt in my mind what led to this tragedy. Ronald Cummings will always be responsible for that, IMO.

Also, of all the odd and often disgusting behaviors seen in this case, Ron marrying Misty takes the cake, IMO. How the father of a missing child can lie down next to the key in his child's disappearance is something I just cannot comprehend. I can only think Ronald was able to do this because he knew without a doubt that Misty did not harm Haleigh...which begs the question how could he know?

BBM
I know you will think I am senile, and I do remember hearing the name Chad Reynolds, but I wasn' t involved in the case back then as much as now. Someone please refresh my memory on his story. He isn't Ron's best friend who left town very shortly after Haliegh went missing is he? If not who is that person? TIA

 

[krkrjx]

BBM
I know you will think I am senile, and I do remember hearing the name Chad Reynolds, but I wasn' t involved in the case back then as much as now. Someone please refresh my memory on his story. He isn't Ron's best friend who left town very shortly after Haliegh went missing is he? If not who is that person? TIA

CR was released from prison after having served time for lewd and lascivious conduct with a child. IIRC, the child was around 10 years old. This incident happened in Putnam County; he had broken into a mobile home where the child was sleeping.

Upon release from prison, CR lived with his mother in another county about 200 miles from Haleigh's home. However, he left his mother's home the Sunday before Haleigh's disappearance, and he has not been seen or heard from since. He is still on the absconder list with DOC.

 

[dodie20]

Sorry, this does not go with the current discussion here but I had to move it here because it was way OT for where I had it posted.
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I will admit to entertaining the idea that someone else did it. For one thing--and I'm sure I am opening a can of worms though that's not my intent--I would really like to see Chad Reynolds apprehended. I believe in coincidence but CR disappearing at the same time Haleigh did is just way too convenient, IMO.

I believe it would be possible for Misty to sleep through an abduction; I just don't believe that is what happened.

I believe it is possible Tommy could be the perp but, if he is, I do not see it as something intentional. Maybe Tommy thought no one was at the MH when he went there so he went in to steal--drugs, guns, whatever--and Haleigh confronted him.

I believe it is possible those two kids were home alone for at least part of that evening. And with that, anyone could have entered...

I believe it is possible that Haleigh suffered an unintentional but serious injury that went unnoticed until she took a turn for the worse a couple hours later...and the condition of her body was such that those responsible for her welfare could not risk her being found.

I have had to look seriously at the possibility that Misty killed Haleigh. Again, I do not believe it was intentional but perhaps a heat-of-the-moment incident. Misty may have hit Haleigh harder than she intended, then panicked and went about staging an abduction scene. However, I am a little less inclined now to believe this scenario since it has been reported that Misty was offered complete immunity and still has not been forthcoming.

I have entertained the idea that Ronald Cummings may be not guilty in his daughter's demise, but being not guilty is not the same as being innocent. There is no way Ronald is innocent but, unfortunately, it seems the camps are either totally for Ron's guilt or totally for his innocence. I find it impossible to overlook the environment in which Haleigh and Junior lived, and that environment and the antics of the so-called "adults" are without a doubt in my mind what led to this tragedy. Ronald Cummings will always be responsible for that, IMO.

Also, of all the odd and often disgusting behaviors seen in this case, Ron marrying Misty takes the cake, IMO. How the father of a missing child can lie down next to the key in his child's disappearance is something I just cannot comprehend. I can only think Ronald was able to do this because he knew without a doubt that Misty did not harm Haleigh...which begs the question how could he know?

I bet these same things are what LE has considered. I've never been sure how LE ruled out a stranger abduction, especially if they have reason to believe that Misty was gone at least part of the night. If they were all covering their hides for something else & they thought that that something else led to her disappearance, then that might account for their LDT deceptions. As far as I know, nobody ever failed one to the point of becoming the suspected perp. But, this is my bone of contention with this theory. Tommy's Joe story. That doesn't fit him not being involved...unless Misty got home to a deceased Haleigh, (result of a non relative), & then involved Tommy. Maybe they all suspect each other. But honestly, no matter what all was going on with their illegal activity, I think Misty would've called 911, if they all weren't involved. Who, in their right mind, could participate & then convince others to participate, in a murder cover up that a random intruder committed? MOO

 

[suspicious1]

Sorry, this does not go with the current discussion here but I had to move it here because it was way OT for where I had it posted.
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I will admit to entertaining the idea that someone else did it. For one thing--and I'm sure I am opening a can of worms though that's not my intent--I would really like to see Chad Reynolds apprehended. I believe in coincidence but CR disappearing at the same time Haleigh did is just way too convenient, IMO.

I believe it would be possible for Misty to sleep through an abduction; I just don't believe that is what happened.

I believe it is possible Tommy could be the perp but, if he is, I do not see it as something intentional. Maybe Tommy thought no one was at the MH when he went there so he went in to steal--drugs, guns, whatever--and Haleigh confronted him.

I believe it is possible those two kids were home alone for at least part of that evening. And with that, anyone could have entered...

I believe it is possible that Haleigh suffered an unintentional but serious injury that went unnoticed until she took a turn for the worse a couple hours later...and the condition of her body was such that those responsible for her welfare could not risk her being found.

I have had to look seriously at the possibility that Misty killed Haleigh. Again, I do not believe it was intentional but perhaps a heat-of-the-moment incident. Misty may have hit Haleigh harder than she intended, then panicked and went about staging an abduction scene. However, I am a little less inclined now to believe this scenario since it has been reported that Misty was offered complete immunity and still has not been forthcoming.

I have entertained the idea that Ronald Cummings may be not guilty in his daughter's demise, but being not guilty is not the same as being innocent. There is no way Ronald is innocent but, unfortunately, it seems the camps are either totally for Ron's guilt or totally for his innocence. I find it impossible to overlook the environment in which Haleigh and Junior lived, and that environment and the antics of the so-called "adults" are without a doubt in my mind what led to this tragedy. Ronald Cummings will always be responsible for that, IMO.

Also, of all the odd and often disgusting behaviors seen in this case, Ron marrying Misty takes the cake, IMO. How the father of a missing child can lie down next to the key in his child's disappearance is something I just cannot comprehend. I can only think Ronald was able to do this because he knew without a doubt that Misty did not harm Haleigh...which begs the question how could he know?[/QUOTE]

Krkrjx, I understand where you're coming from...BTW, good post...

When we first heard about Chad Reynolds..I thought the same thing..it was way too convenient....what if Chad R. did something to Haleigh and then Ron and company did something to Chad? To cover up one deed they subsequently covered up the other? How could Ron help in the investigation of his daughter, he if harmed/killed the person responsible for her "missing"? It's a no win situation.

I, for one, do not believe that Misty harmed Haleigh....but I have a strong feeling, as does LE IMO, that she is covering for someone. Way too many lies, for my liking.

BBM
I've thought this along about the marriage...Ron and his family knows that Misty did not do anything to Haleigh and that's why he had no problem marrying her. I am one who believes that Ron married Misty because he thought it would put Misty in a position where she could not testify against him. You have to remember what Ron said.."I am smarter than most m-effen fools"...I truly think that he believes that. And if Ron and his family believes that Misty did not harm Haleigh, then they must know who did....JMO.

 

[suspicious1]

I know that this theory has been thrown out there before but:

Could it be possible that none of the Croslins or Cummings are responsible for Haleigh's death?

This is what I mean: What if more than one crime was committed...let's say another murder....so there's two dead bodies somewhere out there...What if Ron and the Croslins were in cohoots on the other murder and that is what they are all covering up...not what happened to Haleigh....but the fact that they have to cover up the one murder it just seems like they are covering up what happened to Haleigh. Does that make sense?

LE seemed interested in the days leading up to Haleigh's disappearance...wasn't there talk of them going back as far as 30 days prior to the disappearance? I always wondered why that would be of importance...

LE labeled this a homocide investigation yet I haven't heard why? We don't know if they found anything that indicates that Haleigh is dead...IMO, there investigation may have revealed that "someone" was killed.

LE said there were several persons of interest...What if one of those POI cannot be found? What if LE found out that there was indeed an altercation between Ron/Croslins against someone else? Ron has finally admitted to a fight but a fight with who? That wasn't admitted until Ron got locked up and sometime around the dock search...so IMO, LE may have been trying to find out who else could be involved in what happened to Haleigh...

LE may feel Misty is the key because she is the common denominator between those who were feuding....not as being the one with the most information regarding what happened to Haleigh. She may not have specific information regarding Haleigh but she may have more specific information regarding the events that led up to what happened to Haleigh...and in those events someone else was murdered...so Misty cannot tell the truth. The day after Haleigh disappeared Ron appeared with bruises on parts of his body that led me to believe that he was definately in altercation with someone.

What if everyone involved had to make sure Haleigh's body would not be found...only because they could still sell the story that she was still alive somewhere...and it would divert attention away from the other murder. Let's say that Haleigh's body had been found and she had a gunshot wound...when investigating how Haleigh had been shot how would ron and company give up the possible shooter if he himself was deceased? Or how would they explain the gunshot if they participated in the gun fight? Am I making any sense? How would they explain that? Or if there was someone else was shot and killed during this altercation how could they get rid of one body without getting rid of the other? Getting rid of both bodies, in their minds, would erase the entire event.

Regarding Haleigh being missing, LE seems confident that this was no stranger adduction and it was the works of a family member...in this scenario of another crime being covered up...LE would be absolutely correct...IMO, they may not be saying that a family member killed her only that a family member got rid of her body.

This is jmo as of right now...tomorrow it may be something different...

 

[krkrjx]

I know that this theory has been thrown out there before but:

Could it be possible that none of the Croslins or Cummings are responsible for Haleigh's death?

This is what I mean: What if more than one crime was committed...let's say another murder....so there's two dead bodies somewhere out there...What if Ron and the Croslins were in cohoots on the other murder and that is what they are all covering up...not what happened to Haleigh....but the fact that they have to cover up the one murder it just seems like they are covering up what happened to Haleigh. Does that make sense?

LE seemed interested in the days leading up to Haleigh's disappearance...wasn't there talk of them going back as far as 30 days prior to the disappearance? I always wondered why that would be of importance...

LE labeled this a homocide investigation yet I haven't heard why? We don't know if they found anything that indicates that Haleigh is dead...IMO, there investigation may have revealed that "someone" was killed.

LE said there were several persons of interest...What if one of those POI cannot be found? What if LE found out that there was indeed an altercation between Ron/Croslins against someone else? Ron has finally admitted to a fight but a fight with who? That wasn't admitted until Ron got locked up and sometime around the dock search...so IMO, LE may have been trying to find out who else could be involved in what happened to Haleigh...

LE may feel Misty is the key because she is the common denominator between those who were feuding....not as being the one with the most information regarding what happened to Haleigh. She may not have specific information regarding Haleigh but she may have more specific information regarding the events that led up to what happened to Haleigh...and in those events someone else was murdered...so Misty cannot tell the truth. The day after Haleigh disappeared Ron appeared with bruises on parts of his body that led me to believe that he was definately in altercation with someone.

What if everyone involved had to make sure Haleigh's body would not be found...only because they could still sell the story that she was still alive somewhere...and it would divert attention away from the other murder. Let's say that Haleigh's body had been found and she had a gunshot wound...when investigating how Haleigh had been shot how would ron and company give up the possible shooter if he himself was deceased? Or how would they explain the gunshot if they participated in the gun fight? Am I making any sense? How would they explain that? Or if there was someone else was shot and killed during this altercation how could they get rid of one body without getting rid of the other? Getting rid of both bodies, in their minds, would erase the entire event.

Regarding Haleigh being missing, LE seems confident that this was no stranger adduction and it was the works of a family member...in this scenario of another crime being covered up...LE would be absolutely correct...IMO, they may not be saying that a family member killed her only that a family member got rid of her body.

This is jmo as of right now...tomorrow it may be something different...

Excellent post, suspicious! Normally I snip from posts to save space but I had to quote your post in its entirety because I agree with you 100%.

There are few facts about what happened that night in February and LE are not the only ones questioning possible events of the days and weeks prior to Haleigh going missing. The way I saw it, about the time LE started questioning Ron and Misty's activities leading up to the tragedy is when it became most obvious that Ron was pulling away from LE and the investigation.

I have tried to attribute some of Ron's suspicious-looking behavior to his state of mind--being out of his mind with grief over his missing daughter. However, I have never been able to say with a straight face that grief could account for all of Ron's suspicious behaviors and statements, and it became obvious fairly quickly that Ron was covering something up. What is not totally clear, though, is what he was covering up and why.

I think if any of the players are covering for each other it is for other things and that one or more of those other things would be something very serious. I have always felt that Ron and Misty know what happened to Haleigh or at least why it happened, and who was behind it, if they themselves were not the perps. My biggest complaint about both Ron and Misty is their deliberate uncooperative stance with LE. LE was looking for a child--a child who has been described as Ronald's "heart" and who Misty claimed to love--so their lack of cooperation with the investigation left many people believing they must be the perps.

LE says no stranger abduction. I think what they meant was this was no random unknown person sneaking into the neighborhood that night specifically to steal a child. It does not necessarily mean that it was not someone outside the family, IMO. I am not really thinking that Chad Reynolds took Haleigh, but Chad is a loose end that I would like tied up.

The way things have transpired makes it seem highly likely that some activity that Ron and Misty and possibly Tommy were into led to the Haleigh tragedy. Whether it was another death, I am not sure. But it would have to be something pretty serious indeed for Ron and Misty to need to keep it hidden to the point of derailing the Haleigh investigation, and it is not much of a stretch to put one or more of Ron's guns in the middle of whatever activity they so desperately hope to keep hidden.

I really believe that in order to find closure for Haleigh, LE will have to seriously look into Ron and Misty's activities prior to February 9, 2009.

 

[JSV]

BBM
I know you will think I am senile, and I do remember hearing the name Chad Reynolds, but I wasn' t involved in the case back then as much as now. Someone please refresh my memory on his story. He isn't Ron's best friend who left town very shortly after Haliegh went missing is he? If not who is that person? TIA

Chad Eugene Reynolds missing since Feb. 1
http://www.ocala.com/article/20090214/ARTICLES/902141003/0/NEWS#

 

[dodie20]

Excellent post, suspicious! Normally I snip from posts to save space but I had to quote your post in its entirety because I agree with you 100%.

There are few facts about what happened that night in February and LE are not the only ones questioning possible events of the days and weeks prior to Haleigh going missing. The way I saw it, about the time LE started questioning Ron and Misty's activities leading up to the tragedy is when it became most obvious that Ron was pulling away from LE and the investigation.

I have tried to attribute some of Ron's suspicious-looking behavior to his state of mind--being out of his mind with grief over his missing daughter. However, I have never been able to say with a straight face that grief could account for all of Ron's suspicious behaviors and statements, and it became obvious fairly quickly that Ron was covering something up. What is not totally clear, though, is what he was covering up and why.

I think if any of the players are covering for each other it is for other things and that one or more of those other things would be something very serious. I have always felt that Ron and Misty know what happened to Haleigh or at least why it happened, and who was behind it, if they themselves were not the perps. My biggest complaint about both Ron and Misty is their deliberate uncooperative stance with LE. LE was looking for a child--a child who has been described as Ronald's "heart" and who Misty claimed to love--so their lack of cooperation with the investigation left many people believing they must be the perps.

LE says no stranger abduction. I think what they meant was this was no random unknown person sneaking into the neighborhood that night specifically to steal a child. It does not necessarily mean that it was not someone outside the family, IMO. I am not really thinking that Chad Reynolds took Haleigh, but Chad is a loose end that I would like tied up.

The way things have transpired makes it seem highly likely that some activity that Ron and Misty and possibly Tommy were into led to the Haleigh tragedy. Whether it was another death, I am not sure. But it would have to be something pretty serious indeed for Ron and Misty to need to keep it hidden to the point of derailing the Haleigh investigation, and it is not much of a stretch to put one or more of Ron's guns in the middle of whatever activity they so desperately hope to keep hidden.

I really believe that in order to find closure for Haleigh, LE will have to seriously look into Ron and Misty's activities prior to February 9, 2009.

Something else had to have been going on & here are a few things that support this theory ...Ron racing by the bus stop that morning. Why? where was Misty? Ron claiming to have picked up Haleigh after school, but witnesses putting Misty there. Where was Ron? What was the conversation between Misty & Linsey about? LE making it more than clear that Misty was gone that night, but come he!! or high water, her not admitting to it. Where was she? What was she doing? Ron saying there was no fight over a gun, but after getting his deal, him finally admitting to it. Was the fight with Joe & Tommy? Tommy having to spoon feed Misty the Joe details. If she was there, she would've known enough details to pin it on somebody else .MOO, but whatever was going on, I'm thinking it was something besides drugs. They're in a boat load of drug trouble & sitting in prison for decades, so why not tell? This is my thing...I think outsiders give these people too much credit. They're seen as small time criminals who got in over their heads. What if that's not true? What if they had the capabilities to be mixed up in something really bad? & whatever it is, it's so bad that no matter how much they're grilled, they won't admit to it? Writing that last sentence made me feel kind of stupid, but I'm trying to look at these people from a different perspective. MOO, & just a theory.

 

[Nonni Brenda]

Something else had to have been going on & here are a few things that support this theory ...Ron racing by the bus stop that morning. Why? where was Misty? Ron claiming to have picked up Haleigh after school, but witnesses putting Misty there. Where was Ron? What was the conversation between Misty & Linsey about? LE making it more than clear that Misty was gone that night, but come he!! or high water, her not admitting to it. Where was she? What was she doing? Ron saying there was no fight over a gun, but after getting his deal, him finally admitting to it. Was the fight with Joe & Tommy? Tommy having to spoon feed Misty the Joe details. If she was there, she would've known enough details to pin it on somebody else .MOO, but whatever was going on, I'm thinking it was something besides drugs. They're in a boat load of drug trouble & sitting in prison for decades, so why not tell? This is my thing...I think outsiders give these people too much credit. They're seen as small time criminals who got in over their heads. What if that's not true? What if they had the capabilities to be mixed up in something really bad? & whatever it is, it's so bad that no matter how much they're grilled, they won't admit to it? Writing that last sentence made me feel kind of stupid, but I'm trying to look at these people from a different perspective. MOO, & just a theory.

I think I have an idea what you mean Dodie. Something bigger that a missing/murdered Haleigh to cause everyone to lie and cover it up as these people seem to be doing. Strange....What could it be that is that important?? And why does it seem no one in PC is interested in uncovering whatever it is? It seems that we (outsiders) are the only ones that want justice for Haleigh? Why are the citizens of PC not demanding Le or FBI or FDLE , some agency question some of these people more, such as TN, AS Tic, CC, etc. It seems that someone in that community should be standing at LE's door screaming for action. I just don't get it???:waitasec:
Eta: what could be more that a murdered child? They could all be involved in another murder, and they know that telling the truth about that won't bring Haleigh back, and will cause even more trouble for them. It's not the drugs, it's bigger that that...MOO

 

[redfish]

I think there was a lot going on with this group that weekend. Monday was not the beginning, in my opinion. Lots of things from perhaps every direction... inside pressure, outside pressure.... family pressure, drugs.... and more drugs. I think Ronald was running wide open on a tight wire. MOO Whatever happened to Haliegh happened in a run-amuk environment. Someone did make a mistake.... they had to have. This wasn't planned. Therefore something little was overlooked. I sure wish we could find it. It is probably simple and in plain sight. Something tells me LE has the key (and I don't think its Missy!) already and maybe that are missing the importance of it.

 

[Nonni Brenda]

I think there was a lot going on with this group that weekend. Monday was not the beginning, in my opinion. Lots of things from perhaps every direction... inside pressure, outside pressure.... family pressure, drugs.... and more drugs. I think Ronald was running wide open on a tight wire. MOO Whatever happened to Haliegh happened in a run-amuk environment. Someone did make a mistake.... they had to have. This wasn't planned. Therefore something little was overlooked. I sure wish we could find it. It is probably simple and in plain sight. Something tells me LE has the key (and I don't think its Missy!) already and maybe that are missing the importance of it.

I agree redfish. I think LE has all the information they need to know just what happened. I just don't understand why they don't put more pressure on ALL those involved. It seems the more pressure applied, the more likely someone will either slip up or confess details. I know it is hard to prosecute a case where there is (seemingly) no solid evidence, but that makes it even more important to add pressure. And again, there may be solide evidence, we're just not privy to it. I just don't get it. It is like LE is just waiting and hoping someone will confess. Why would they??? I really wish an outside agency would come in and take over. That is probably the only way this will ever be solved. Looks like PC is through... MOO

 

[Nonni Brenda]

Chad Eugene Reynolds missing since Feb. 1
http://www.ocala.com/article/20090214/ARTICLES/902141003/0/NEWS#

Thanks JSV. I am wondering if the 2 bodies they were looking for recently were Chad and Haleigh? Maybe Chad was killed for hurting/killing Haliegh? JMO

 

[4Jacy]

Something else had to have been going on & here are a few things that support this theory ...Ron racing by the bus stop that morning. Why? where was Misty? Ron claiming to have picked up Haleigh after school, but witnesses putting Misty there. Where was Ron? What was the conversation between Misty & Linsey about? LE making it more than clear that Misty was gone that night, but come he!! or high water, her not admitting to it. Where was she? What was she doing? Ron saying there was no fight over a gun, but after getting his deal, him finally admitting to it. Was the fight with Joe & Tommy? Tommy having to spoon feed Misty the Joe details. If she was there, she would've known enough details to pin it on somebody else .MOO, but whatever was going on, I'm thinking it was something besides drugs. They're in a boat load of drug trouble & sitting in prison for decades, so why not tell? This is my thing...I think outsiders give these people too much credit. They're seen as small time criminals who got in over their heads. What if that's not true? What if they had the capabilities to be mixed up in something really bad? & whatever it is, it's so bad that no matter how much they're grilled, they won't admit to it? Writing that last sentence made me feel kind of stupid, but I'm trying to look at these people from a different perspective. MOO, & just a theory.

Dodie20, Are you talking about child trafficking? If so, don't feel stupid, I though of that too, also, a child/adult prostitution ring et al. However, to do those things you would have to have some smarts, and I hate to say it, but with that group I think there are some shingles missing from the roof. JMO

 

[JSV]

Thanks JSV. I am wondering if the 2 bodies they were looking for recently were Chad and Haleigh? Maybe Chad was killed for hurting/killing Haliegh? JMO

YW
OMG...I never thought about it that way...Anything is possible with these players .I just want HaLeigh found .

 

[Chablis]

YW
OMG...I never thought about it that way...Anything is possible with these players .I just want HaLeigh found .

Ok, but Ron said he would kill whoever who did this, and honestly, if he found his daughter with a pedo, and killed him, I am pretty sure he probably wouldn't even get into trouble. So I just can't agree with that.

 

[lonetraveler]

Whew! I'm going to hide out here. I got carried away on the Ron's appeal thread. I should have read where I was...........maybe I won't be kicked to the curb over it??????:crazy:

 

[JSV]

Ok, but Ron said he would kill whoever who did this, and honestly, if he found his daughter with a pedo, and killed him, I am pretty sure he probably wouldn't even get into trouble. So I just can't agree with that.

I agree with you .I would also kill anyone I caught that had one of my daughters or grandaughters even if I did get in trouble and I would not lie about it either .

 

[lonetraveler]

thanks! i had forgotten about that road rage incident. maybe i had just assumed there was no gun cabinet at GGS house. i think i am going to go back to the beginning and update my notes...lol. :crazy:

Well, my thoughts are that Ron made a bee line for GMAS house and immediately locked away his weapon by the time that LE arrived to take the report.