General theory thread and motives rehashed #3

[krkrjx]

I at one time entertained a theory that the children were being watched by TN and something happened to HaLeigh.

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(but I am still trying to figure out WHY TN would have to call Misty, if Misty was with Ronald the night before working out their problems and they woke up late, ...

This is certainly a viable theory. Five-year-olds can be high-strung and restless and some throw tantrums but add Turner Syndrome to the mix and you have to wonder if Haleigh could have been a handful for TN on even the best of days. RC and MC were in an ongoing argument so it is likely that February 9, 2009 was not the best of days.

Misty could have been at the MH early in the evening but she didn't want to stay to babysit. IIRC, Misty wanated to babysit for her brother's kids that night. If Ron left for work with Misty still feeling that way maybe that's why he kept calling her. It could be that Misty called TN saying she didn't want to babysit and TN offered her money to stay. It could be that AS went to the MH not so much to check on the kids as to see if Misty was actually there. Makes one wonder if TN herself wasn't the one who went to the MH, and was forced to stay with the kids until Misty could be found. Maybe Ron really did call Tommy looking for Misty. Maybe they all agreed TN would say she "sent a family member" to the MH because they didn't want anyone to know TN had been there at any time before the 911 call was made.

 

[watchinginky]

This is certainly a viable theory. Five-year-olds can be high-strung and restless and some throw tantrums but add Turner Syndrome to the mix and you have to wonder if Haleigh could have been a handful for TN on even the best of days. RC and MC were in an ongoing argument so it is likely that February 9, 2009 was not the best of days.

Misty could have been at the MH early in the evening but she didn't want to stay to babysit. IIRC, Misty wanated to babysit for her brother's kids that night. If Ron left for work with Misty still feeling that way maybe that's why he kept calling her. It could be that Misty called TN saying she didn't want to babysit and TN offered her money to stay. It could be that AS went to the MH not so much to check on the kids as to see if Misty was actually there. Makes one wonder if TN herself wasn't the one who went to the MH, and was forced to stay with the kids until Misty could be found. Maybe Ron really did call Tommy looking for Misty. Maybe they all agreed TN would say she "sent a family member" to the MH because they didn't want anyone to know TN had been there at any time before the 911 call was made.

BBM

I've posted this exact same thought recently on some of the other threads. They are all telling lies, so IMO, TN saying she sent a family member to the MH to check on the kids is probably a lie too. It was probably TN herself that went to the MH to do something. JMO

 

[Nonni Brenda]

ITA....I have several theories too, but TN always seems to come into play in all of them. She knows too much.

I would love to see her and GGMS be hauled into LE for some major questioning and LTD's. LONG OVERDUE!!!!!!

All JMO.

I agree. If they could be jailed for something, even jay walking, I know, that's not likely. But if they had to stay in jail like the others Maybe they would start talking. If not the truth, at least what they would say could be analyzed and maybe help get to the truth. Just dreaming i guess.:banghead:

 

[lonetraveler]

BBM

I'm still entertaining this theory. I think something could have happened on TN's watch. She's so desperate to get Misty to babysit that she's offering to pay her....why? I think because she knows Haleigh's in a very bad condition and wants Misty there to take the fall for whatever happened to her. Maybe she did give Haleigh too much of something. Maybe she knew Haleigh was beyond help and she knew she could tell Misty Haleigh was asleep. Maybe Misty bought it and left the kids there alone to do whatever she was doing....who knows.

TN does seem to have all of the answers whenever questioned....even all of the little details. Well how does she know? Was she there or did she orchestrate the script everyone was to follow?

I don't think Ron would sit in jail to protect Misty. I think he would however to protect his mother or grandmother. Why was TN worried if Misty would talk? And she's proud of her son in jail? I think she's proud of him for not telling the real story.All JMO

Un Huh! Absolutely! I have posted this many times. I firmly believe that Ron would only go to jail for himself, Teresa or maybe Annette and that is all. IMO, Teresa is the major reason that this case has gone nowhere toward being solved. LE should have burned her a new one in questioning her, they didn't. They dropped the ball and allowed her to manipulate them until precious evidence was gone forever. I hope that Hope decides to tell all.

 

[lonetraveler]

I have always believed and still do believe that if Teresa had been put into jail (for anything, even withholding evidence, obstruction of an investigation, anything) that Ron would have been so torn up that he would have come in voluntarily and told the truth or at least some of the truth to protect his mother. I believe that he would take the fall to keep her out of prison. :rocker:

 

[krkrjx]

Two of the strangest occurrences in this entire case were instigated by TN.

1. The incident where she lured Cobra into the woods.

2. The incident where she was taping (without their knowledge) PCSO staff, and was immediately *escorted* out of the PCSO building when they found out.

These actions would raise red flags even if TN were not the grandmother of the missing child but are really more disturbing because she is the grandmother. I really do not know what level of involvement TN had, if any, but if she truly believed none of her family members were involved in Haleigh's disappearance, why was she doing such strange things?

 

[dodie20]

I was writing a hypothetical idea on another thread, & thought I would put it here & see how it fits. Misty picks Haleigh up from the bus stop. (witnesses put her there). She's tired, worn out looking & pops Jr in the face. (witness). Being in a bad mood, she pulls over & whacks Haleigh with a board for some infraction. (FH heard Misty used a board on Haleigh). They go home, Ron doesn't seek medical attention & goes on to work. Haleigh, according to Misty, is fine & even popping wheelies. What's right about this theory...it would explain Chelsea lying for Misty. also, it would explain how Misty & Ron are both responsible...her for the beating & him for not seeking medical attention. The whole bus stop switch has bugged me more than anything & this theory, would at least explain the inclination to remove Misty from the situation. What's not right with this theory...Tommy's Joe story. That story made him a whole lot more culpable than the Misty story. IDK, but I've never given up on the idea that Ron was covering for Misty, so something like this might explain it. But in this theory, who was in charge of the disposal? & if something like this is close, then was the whole 911 a sham, or just Misty's part? I'll have to think about this awhile. But, I have considered that LE offered Misty immunity just to get Haleigh's body. She's in prison for 25 years anyway, and LE might have considered that ample time. MOO.

 

[lonetraveler]

Two of the strangest occurrences in this entire case were instigated by TN.

1. The incident where she lured Cobra into the woods.

2. The incident where she was taping (without their knowledge) PCSO staff, and was immediately *escorted* out of the PCSO building when they found out.

These actions would raise red flags even if TN were not the grandmother of the missing child but are really more disturbing because she is the grandmother. I really do not know what level of involvement TN had, if any, but if she truly believed none of her family members were involved in Haleigh's disappearance, why was she doing such strange things?

Oh krkrjx, you are so right, these two incidents stand out as the most puzzling of many. What is so bewildering to me of the two is numer two. Surely, she wasn't worried that LE knew something instrumental in Haleigh's case and wouldn't tell anyone.....................nope, I think she was so worried that LE were getting suspicious about Ronald's involvement or maybe even her involvement in Haleigh's disappearance that she just could not keep herself from snooping and finding out exactly what LE were investigating. Very, very suspicious to me as well. OT, but it is pretty telling when you can't even watch American Idol without looking to see if anything has happened in your absence! I need intervention, please.

 

[Concerned Papa]

The Bald Truth has learned exclusively that Misty Croslin was verbally offered immunity from prosecution for the murder of a five year old girl, missing since 2009, if she coughed up facts that could lead authorities to the body of Haleigh Cummings, and provide verifiable details about what happened to her former stepdaughter.

“It was a pretty complete immunity offer,” a source close to the hush-hush talks tells me

http://www.artharris.com/2011/02/25/exclusive-misty-croslin-immunity-offer/#more-4993

I don't know to what extent immunity was actually offered to Misty, but were I the one making the offer it would be for the whole enchilada, providing she had no direct involvement with Haleigh's demise.

Tell me what happened to Haleigh and where she's at and Miss Croslin could not only waltz right out of the jailhouse, she could carry $35,000 with her as far as I'm concerned.

I don't give a flip about those nickle dime drug charges.

 

[Emeralgem]

I don't know to what extent immunity was actually offered to Misty, but were I the one making the offer it would be for the whole enchilada, providing she had no direct involvement with Haleigh's demise.

Tell me what happened to Haleigh and where she's at and Miss Croslin could not only waltz right out of the jailhouse, she could carry $35,000 with her as far as I'm concerned.

I don't give a flip about those nickle dime drug charges.

IMO.. I don't believe she is capable of giving them the whole enchilada. IMO. I suspect she knows what happend ..how and where it happened but I doubt she knows how or where Ron C and family disposed of Haleigh's remains. They would never allow her to have that information..JMHO

 

[lonetraveler]

I don't know to what extent immunity was actually offered to Misty, but were I the one making the offer it would be for the whole enchilada, providing she had no direct involvement with Haleigh's demise.

Tell me what happened to Haleigh and where she's at and Miss Croslin could not only waltz right out of the jailhouse, she could carry $35,000 with her as far as I'm concerned.

I don't give a flip about those nickle dime drug charges.

OMG, I just can't agree with you more. Why in the H didn't the prosecutor get really serious and include the penny ante drug charges with the immunity offer?????????? :banghead: If I were going to serve 25 years anyway I would just bide my time until they were really ready to deal.

ETA: IMO, in this point in the case, it isn't why Misty isn't talking, it is why isn't the SA not taking in a more persuasive way!

 

[lonetraveler]

IMO.. I don't believe she is capable of giving them the whole enchilada. IMO. I suspect she knows what happend ..how and where it happened but I doubt she knows how or where Ron C and family disposed of Haleigh's remains. They would never allow her to have that information..JMHO

I might be lost here but I interpreted Papa as meaning "the whole enchilada" as being that her drug sentence would also be dropped, so that she would go free. But I do agree, IMO, Misty does not know know where Haleigh's body is. I think that the immunity offer needs to be modified to also cover if she can tell who is involved and how exactly she was involved and of course, who directed this entire fiasco.

 

[dodie20]

I don't know to what extent immunity was actually offered to Misty, but were I the one making the offer it would be for the whole enchilada, providing she had no direct involvement with Haleigh's demise.

Tell me what happened to Haleigh and where she's at and Miss Croslin could not only waltz right out of the jailhouse, she could carry $35,000 with her as far as I'm concerned.

I don't give a flip about those nickle dime drug charges.

I agree because I don't think Misty killed Haleigh. But when it's all said & done, (& I've just come to realize this), I don't want any of these people out of prison for awhile. Can you imagine Misty back on the streets? I would hope she gets at least 10 years, regardless of what her involvement was. The drug charges, IMO, were nothing but a ploy to get these people to talk, so they don't mean much to me...but the thought of these people being let out to just pick up where they left off, is a scary thought. Where would Misty go? What would she do to earn a living? How long would it be before her mother tried to blackmail her? God, I hope she's spending her time trying to better herself. THAT's what should be mandatory, NOT the drug charges. MOO.

 

[Nonni Brenda]

Oh krkrjx, you are so right, these two incidents stand out as the most puzzling of many. What is so bewildering to me of the two is numer two. Surely, she wasn't worried that LE knew something instrumental in Haleigh's case and wouldn't tell anyone.....................nope, I think she was so worried that LE were getting suspicious about Ronald's involvement or maybe even her involvement in Haleigh's disappearance that she just could not keep herself from snooping and finding out exactly what LE were investigating. Very, very suspicious to me as well. OT, but it is pretty telling when you can't even watch American Idol without looking to see if anything has happened in your absence! I need intervention, please.

I know the feeling, Lone. Hadn't been on Ws all day, and had to come to my 'puter during commercials to read! HELP ME sombody, please...LOL.

I don't know how I missed TN's taping in the police station?? Where can I find that?? what was that all about?

 

[Nonni Brenda]

I might be lost here but I interpreted Papa as meaning "the whole enchilada" as being that her drug sentence would also be dropped, so that she would go free. But I do agree, IMO, Misty does not know know where Haleigh's body is. I think that the immunity offer needs to be modified to also cover if she can tell who is involved and how exactly she was involved and of course, who directed this entire fiasco.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't one of the GMa's on the Cummings side say something like...She will never tell where she's at?

 

[Nonni Brenda]

I agree because I don't think Misty killed Haleigh. But when it's all said & done, (& I've just come to realize this), I don't want any of these people out of prison for awhile. Can you imagine Misty back on the streets? I would hope she gets at least 10 years, regardless of what her involvement was. The drug charges, IMO, were nothing but a ploy to get these people to talk, so they don't mean much to me...but the thought of these people being let out to just pick up where they left off, is a scary thought. Where would Misty go? What would she do to earn a living? How long would it be before her mother tried to blackmail her? God, I hope she's spending her time trying to better herself. THAT's what should be mandatory, NOT the drug charges. MOO.

Hi Dodie, I agree that I would not like Misty being out on the street, but it would be worth it to me IF she gave everything up, everyone's involvement, who did what, who killed her, where her body was put, everything. And of course it could all be verified, and she could pass a LDT. Then maybe Haleigh could have justice and this nightmare could end. JMO
eta: If she is not the one who killer her.

 

[Concerned Papa]

I agree because I don't think Misty killed Haleigh. But when it's all said & done, (& I've just come to realize this), I don't want any of these people out of prison for awhile. Can you imagine Misty back on the streets? I would hope she gets at least 10 years, regardless of what her involvement was. The drug charges, IMO, were nothing but a ploy to get these people to talk, so they don't mean much to me...but the thought of these people being let out to just pick up where they left off, is a scary thought. Where would Misty go? What would she do to earn a living? How long would it be before her mother tried to blackmail her? God, I hope she's spending her time trying to better herself. THAT's what should be mandatory, NOT the drug charges. MOO.

Ahhh Dodie my friend, you are showing your compassionate heart by being concerned about what's good for Misty.

It's a trait that I admire, but unfortunately do not share for Miss Croslin. I don't care about how Misty might earn a living or if she betters herself while in prison. I care about the singular issue of Haleigh Cummings finally being able to come home.

Time has brought me to the point of firmly believing that Misty knows what happened to Haleigh with the likelihood being that she also knows exactly where she's at. Were I in a position of authority, Misty would have a standing offer of being able to walk out of prison the same day this information was revealed.

I'm not concerned about any potential danger to society Misty may pose because, please keep in mind, Misty Croslin never even had a ticket for jaywalking until she met Ronald Cummings.

If she tells what she knows, I've got a feeling that influence wouldn't be coming out with her.

 

[Emeralgem]

I might be lost here but I interpreted Papa as meaning "the whole enchilada" as being that her drug sentence would also be dropped, so that she would go free. But I do agree, IMO, Misty does not know know where Haleigh's body is. I think that the immunity offer needs to be modified to also cover if she can tell who is involved and how exactly she was involved and of course, who directed this entire fiasco.

Could very well be lone...Just chalk it all up to me being left handed...LOL
However IF the deal is for her to give them the whole enchilada in order to get the whole enchilada, I suspect it ain't gonna happen. IMO she doesn't know what they did with Haleigh.. No one is going to get the full meal/deal..JMHO

 

[Emeralgem]

Ahhh Dodie my friend, you are showing your compassionate heart by being concerned about what's good for Misty.

It's a trait that I admire, but unfortunately do not share for Miss Croslin. I don't care about how Misty might earn a living or if she betters herself while in prison. I care about the singular issue of Haleigh Cummings finally being able to come home.

Time has brought me to the point of firmly believing that Misty knows what happened to Haleigh with the likelihood being that she also knows exactly where she's at. Were I in a position of authority, Misty would have a standing offer of being able to walk out of prison the same day this information was revealed.

I'm not concerned about any potential danger to society Misty may pose because, please keep in mind, Misty Croslin never even had a ticket for jaywalking until she met Ronald Cummings.

If she tells what she knows, I've got a feeling that influence wouldn't be coming out with her.

Hi Papa, Just curious as to WHY you are inclined to believe Misty has information as to where Haleigh's remains were placed..TYIA

 

[Nonni Brenda]

Ahhh Dodie my friend, you are showing your compassionate heart by being concerned about what's good for Misty.

It's a trait that I admire, but unfortunately do not share for Miss Croslin. I don't care about how Misty might earn a living or if she betters herself while in prison. I care about the singular issue of Haleigh Cummings finally being able to come home.

Time has brought me to the point of firmly believing that Misty knows what happened to Haleigh with the likelihood being that she also knows exactly where she's at. Were I in a position of authority, Misty would have a standing offer of being able to walk out of prison the same day this information was revealed.

I'm not concerned about any potential danger to society Misty may pose because, please keep in mind, Misty Croslin never even had a ticket for jaywalking until she met Ronald Cummings.

If she tells what she knows, I've got a feeling that influence wouldn't be coming out with her.

Papa, I agree with you 100%. Misty knows what Ron and his clan did! Haleigh needs justice! I hate to say it about myself, but I have lost what little compassion I ever had for all these players. I do still feel bad for Crystal and her family and Jr. The others need to fess up and take their punnishment like the men/women they ARE SUPPOSED TO BE. Misty can walk immediately for the exchange of the info mentioned above. If she is a theat to society, she will go right back in for that. Hopefully she will do everything she can to live like a real citizen not to go back. I just want justice for Haleigh...now.