General theory thread and motives rehashed #3

[Emeralgem]

Eileen

have you heard that Teresa also took Cobra into a wooded area- some property that had a hog pin and left him there? (she claims to have seen a snake and went running out of there)

No one will ever be able to convince me she wasn't trying to get Cobra killed..JMHO

ETA .Ya know, in all reality that whole incident was scary as HELL-O for me to watch.. That woman has some nerve.. That incident proved to me she is willing and capable of doing anything and everything within her power to keep the truth from ever being known..

 

[Eileen730]

Charles Ingram is the bailbondsman He owns Chucks Bailbonds he is an ex
Palatka police officer 49 yrs old he is a registered sex offender charged with Lew and lacivious assault on a child, he was sentenced in 2002 to 4 yrs in prison and 11 yrs probation he had to quit the bailbonds job but he signed it over to his wife but he is still seen in the bailbonds store.

My god what freaking place to live huh?

 

[Eileen730]

No one will ever be able to convince me she wasn't trying to get Cobra killed..JMHO

thats very interesting the site i read it was like she LURED him out there
but some guy was walking in the woods and he lived around there. I just read it this morning ill look and see if i can find it.

Maybe it was stubs and not tim Miller My bad !!!!1 LOL

Here it is all the way at the bottom!
http://************.com/category/haleigh-cummings/cobra-staubs/

 

[Chablis]

Could have been the murder weapon.....??

Or other evidence that would point to the person who murdered her....

I am just saying, if there was a huge elaborate scheme and Rons family helped him and covered up the body and weapon, if there was one, and had covered it up so well, I equate to the time that Lenny Padilla was searching the river for Caylee and Casey saw it on tv and was not worried because she knew she wasn't in there.....

IF Annette and Teresa helped, why would Annette at least one two different occasion fly to the mondex and the river?

I just think Ronald has made the biggest fools out of the women who constantly protect him.

 

[Eileen730]

Eileen

have you heard that Teresa also took Cobra into a wooded area- some property that had a hog pin and left him there? (she claims to have seen a snake and went running out of there)

yes i read that !!!!!! I posted the link just above this post i believe its at blink oncrime.

They said it was like out of Deliverance

 

[Eileen730]

Who was watching Crystal Cummings' children when she was in Satsuma w/tn? Were her children left in Lady Lake w/jeff? Did she drive w/TN to Satsuma?

ron was having problems w/misty and her refusal to babysit while he was on nightshift (MO). By monday, the 9th, ron must have been on his last nerve w/misty's behavior. MO..

When did he first call TN? I remember tn saying she sent her mother over to check on the kids. Not one person has ever questioned tn as to her reasoning for the kids requiring a check, and no one has asked her why she didn't go herself.

Theresa offered to pay Misty to baby sit tthat night but Misty said no!

 

[Eileen730]

I agree with alot of what is your latest thoughts of a possible theory to the happenings of the hours February 9-10 2009{God that is so very hard to believe that it has been well over 2 yrs now since little Haleigh IMO was murdered..I remember it clearly as it was announced and spread like wildfire thru the news agencies on the day of Caylee Anthony's now infamous televised memorial service[i.e "I love you C.M.A..I miss you C.M.A..etc..etc"..Lee's extremely strange speech made at his only niece's memorial service]}

I too have the same thoughts as you as far as believing that Ronald did not leave PDM Bridge that night and even more unpopularly I believe he was not "directly" involved with Haleigh's murder that night..rather IMO Haleigh's entire demise was partly out of concealing "things" from none other than Ronald{and the "things" I have multiple theories of}.. Though IMO Ronald is fully culpable for his only daughter's death in that it is only because of his selfish..irresponsible..careless..lack of concern for his children's well being and choices that he made that directly led to Haleigh losing her life..{As I posted earlier both Haleigh Cummings and Hailey Dunn never IMO had a chance in he!! of surviving their homes in which they were raised..I'm amazed that little Haleigh made it as far as 5 years of age and am superbly amazed that Hailey Dunn lived to be 13 yrs of age as a product of her environment that is a sheer miracle IMO}..

Strikingly and eerily similar are these two cases/investigations.. Both having brothers as their sibling that survived seemingly unscathed{i.e. physically but definitely NOT emotionally unscathed}..Both seemingly their demise was met at the hands of the very one that their primary parent loved/involved with and brought into the home to live with their child..most importantly IMO left unattended/unprotected and alone with the significant other[in Haleigh's case left totally "in the care of" the significant other] whom we all clearly see was not fit literally to babysit even an ant on the sidewalk..LITERALLY..much less a living..breathing..full of life..beautiful..yet helpless little girl[just sickening as I think about it over and over]...Definitely way too many eerily similar situations/issues between these two cases IMO..OF MOST IMPORTANCE that both still yet remain UN-solved[With little Haleigh's shockingly at over 2 full years now..and I fear Hailey Dunn's case is heading quite in the same fashion..with no end in sight]..

This case has taught me to always..always keep my mind open to any and all info that comes to light..discovered.. uncovered.. or possibly by the literal Grace of God someone actually tell the Gosh darn truth[but will not hold breath on that one]..but to always keep my mind open to process any new info that is learned no matter how it was that it came to light...and to always keep all possibilities available until PROVEN TO BE AN ABSOLUTE[which is so very little in this case]..but just most importantly to not be set in stone with any one specific theory..IMO this just is not possible to truly believe any one certain theory to be a sure fire deal of what went down..NOT WHEN WE TRULY DO NOT KNOW jack squat for certain in the entire case/investigation..that and the fact that every single person in/around this entire case has proven one thing for certain...AND THAT IS THE FACT THAT THEY ARE ALL LIARS THAT ARE CAPABLE OF LYING STRAIGHT IN THE FACE OF AUTHORITY!!..sad to say I think they have all been raised to lie..raised to lie just for the sake of lying..for no certain reason..just to lie..

It is crazy and scary to know these type ppl live within our society..seemingly low-threat..no contributions to society..yet here we all can clearly see that "they" are certainly getting away with murder literally at this point 2 years in.. Yes they are incarcerated serving drug sentences...yet little Haleigh still goes UN-found..therefor justice UN-served in her behalf..by these type ppl...scary!!..frightening!!..

All of the above is jmo tho!!!

Great post!!!!! And i also think both little girls never stood a chance in life.

what scumm we have in our society to do this to children!

 

[Eileen730]

taking a guess here, but probably for the same exact reason Teresa got thrown out of the police department for secretly taping her conversations with LE. JMO :waitasec:

Probably so and ill be the dispatcher at the Sheriffs office calld Theresa that night and gtave her a heads up! JMO At 2 15 not 3 30...

 

[suspicious1]

IF the incident occurred at the Sr. Croslin's residence or in the immediate vicinity (Shell Harbor) perhaps they thought some evidence may still been there. Something that could and would implicate Ron C..
Either that or they could have gone there to plant evidence to implicate the Croslins.. I wouldn't put anything past those two women....JMHO

I agree, Em...either TN and Annette went there to plant evidence or remove evidence that may have been left behind...kinda like "double checking". Either way I look at it..those two women were up to no good that day that they decided to search for hours in the woods...when the accusations pointed to Haleigh being placed in the water...why were they in the woods for hours? That just didn't smell right to me...and it still doesn't.

I know that Annette also showed up at the Mondex...I just don't think it was a coincidence...the Mondex and the Shell Harbor search sparked an interest in the Cummings so much so that they had to be there. IMO, these two women knew that evidence had been scattered around and those two locations were places that if one looked hard enough evidence would be found. And it seems that Tommy led LE to both places. jmo

 

[Eileen730]

I agree, Em...either TN and Annette went there to plant evidence or remove evidence that may have been left behind...kinda like "double checking". Either way I look at it..those two women were up to no good that day that they decided to search for hours in the woods...when the accusations pointed to Haleigh being placed in the water...why were they in the woods for hours? That just didn't smell right to me...and it still doesn't.

I know that Annette also showed up at the Mondex...I just don't think it was a coincidence...the Mondex and the Shell Harbor search sparked an interest in the Cummings so much so that they had to be there. IMO, these two women knew that evidence had been scattered around and those two locations were places that if one looked hard enough evidence would be found. And it seems that Tommy led LE to both places. jmo

They know everything as i see it and they are going to let the Croslins rot in jail and ill bet ya anything once things die down they will work out a plea deal and get their precious Ronald out of LOCK UP. Mom kept him out of jail many times before...

 

[lil momma]

Probably so and ill be the dispatcher at the Sheriffs office calld Theresa that night and gtave her a heads up! JMO At 2 15 not 3 30...

possible, but from what i recall, TN was on some sort of leave of absence from her dispatch job the night HaLeigh was reported missing. and iirc, she had been on this leave for a few months or so prior to HaLeigh reported missing.

IOW, if each of us made a notebook on each and every one of the people involved. (ex. TN would have a notebook, GGS would have one, ect....) basically to see what each of them have said and when, and compare it side by side. I bet the truth would be in black and white. JMO

 

[Eileen730]

possible, but from what i recall, TN was on some sort of leave of absence from her dispatch job the night HaLeigh was reported missing. and iirc, she had been on this leave for a few months or so prior to HaLeigh reported missing.

IOW, if each of us made a notebook on each and every one of the people involved. (ex. TN would have a notebook, GGS would have one, ect....) basically to see what each of them have said and when, and compare it side by side. I bet the truth would be in black and white. JMO

LOL i agree and i know she wasnt working the dispatch job but i thought someone a friend of hers still working there probably called her and told her what was going on.

 

[lil momma]

No one will ever be able to convince me she wasn't trying to get Cobra killed..JMHO

ETA .Ya know, in all reality that whole incident was scary as HELL-O for me to watch.. That woman has some nerve.. That incident proved to me she is willing and capable of doing anything and everything within her power to keep the truth from ever being known..

ITA!!!!! the more and more that comes out, just keeps me shaking my head.

I even think Cobra thought she was trying to get him killed.

 

[lil momma]

LOL i agree and i know she wasnt working the dispatch job but i thought someone a friend of hers still working there probably called her and told her what was going on.

maybe, but then the call would have had to come in from the neighboring county in which she worked.

I still think Ron Locked those kids in the MH and HaLeigh got into his drugs, and the reason for the visit, is not b/c TN sent someone over there, but b/c GGS got wind of the kids being there alone, and she was the one that found HaLeigh deceased, got TN involved, who then had the wild idea of blaming it all on Misty b/c she left Ron high and dry with no sitter for that evening, even though Ron threw her clothes all over NayNays yard. AGAIN, it is these two women placing the blame on a teenager, instead of reading Ron the riot act for leaving them alone.


But with all the talk about the lake/river searches, leads me to another theory, yet again. I have about a million theories...lol.

 

[Chablis]

I agree, Em...either TN and Annette went there to plant evidence or remove evidence that may have been left behind...kinda like "double checking". Either way I look at it..those two women were up to no good that day that they decided to search for hours in the woods...when the accusations pointed to Haleigh being placed in the water...why were they in the woods for hours? That just didn't smell right to me...and it still doesn't.

I know that Annette also showed up at the Mondex...I just don't think it was a coincidence...the Mondex and the Shell Harbor search sparked an interest in the Cummings so much so that they had to be there. IMO, these two women knew that evidence had been scattered around and those two locations were places that if one looked hard enough evidence would be found. And it seems that Tommy led LE to both places. jmo

I just cant think of a working theory that has evidence of Haleigh that night at the mondex and also at the river. I would think if a family was going to dispose of one of their own, burial would be the option, I just cant see them throwing her in the water, and along with Rons careless talkings to Cobra, saying shes prob down there with the gators... I think the exact truth is opposite, I feel Annette and Teresa scrambled to the lake because of the what if Ronald did do something factor... I waiver greatly on their involvement, but I think they have been pawns.

 

[Eileen730]

maybe, but then the call would have had to come in from the neighboring county in which she worked.

I still think Ron Locked those kids in the MH and HaLeigh got into his drugs, and the reason for the visit, is not b/c TN sent someone over there, but b/c GGS got wind of the kids being there alone, and she was the one that found HaLeigh deceased, got TN involved, who then had the wild idea of blaming it all on Misty b/c she left Ron high and dry with no sitter for that evening, even though Ron threw her clothes all over NayNays yard. AGAIN, it is these two women placing the blame on a teenager, instead of reading Ron the riot act for leaving them alone.


But with all the talk about the lake/river searches, leads me to another theory, yet again. I have about a million theories...lol.

I think the kids were alone also, Ron locked them in (it had probably been done many times). ill bet GGs was calling over there and got no ans (did they have a house phone?)or calling Misty on her cell got no ans just like ron got no ans calling Misty. TN probably didnt get an ans either.. so they all went over there TN and GGS get there first find Haleigh dead Maybe Jr thinks she is sleeping.

sigh i can think of so many ways this could have been.

 

[lil momma]

I think the kids were alone also, Ron locked them in (it had probably been done many times). ill bet GGs was calling over there and got no ans (did they have a house phone?)or calling Misty on her cell got no ans just like ron got no ans calling Misty. TN probably didnt get an ans either.. so they all went over there TN and GGS get there first find Haleigh dead Maybe Jr thinks she is sleeping.

sigh i can think of so many ways this could have been.

BBM
Me too, honestly the only theory i have ruled out was a kidnapping, only because all the strange behavior of all of these "unusual people" JMO

 

[Eileen730]

BBM
Me too, honestly the only theory i have ruled out was a kidnapping, only because all the strange behavior of all of these "unusual people" JMO

No one kidnapped Little Haleigh...
I hope theyt pay for what they did to her!

LOL im not sure unusual is the word for them but im hard pressed for another word. LOL

 

[lil momma]

No one kidnapped Little Haleigh...
I hope theyt pay for what they did to her!

LOL im not sure unusual is the word for them but im hard pressed for another word. LOL

lol...i didn't want to violate TOS, so unusual it is for me...lmao

 

[Eileen730]

lol...i didn't want to violate TOS, so unusual it is for me...lmao

LOL i hear ya i said something over at insession and they banned me its been over a year and i still cant get back in thats just not right lol one year!!!!! imagine that lol

They fight with ppl alot over there its not worth going there. They try to get ppl banned lol