General theory thread and motives rehashed #4

[lil momma]

Does anybody have the link handy in which Misty's mother said that she thought both Ron and Misty knew more than they were saying? thanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm6lLWWFKNM&NR=1

here you go

 

[Chablis]

Ron does know more than he is saying. Thats why he is sitting in a hot prison tonight. Got the same sentence as someone labeled a suspect, imagine that!!

 

[Flossie JMO]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm6lLWWFKNM&NR=1

here you go

JMO, that clip makes me think Lisa knows more than she is saying. And wonder what she used to blackmailed Misty to get Xanax. JMO

 

[Chablis]

JMO, that clip makes me think Lisa knows more than she is saying. And wonder what she used to blackmailed Misty to get Xanax. JMO

Maybe she said, if you dont get me Xanex we will have Ron charged with stat rape? I am pretty sure we dont know the time frame she said it, so that cant be ruled out. I dont think any mother who could blackmail her child and had info on something that could put a lot of money in her hands, just dont think she would be so loyal. Loyalty is only displayed in this story to Ronald Cummings by Misty. jmo

 

[dodie20]

Maybe she said, if you dont get me Xanex we will have Ron charged with stat rape? I am pretty sure we dont know the time frame she said it, so that cant be ruled out. I dont think any mother who could blackmail her child and had info on something that could put a lot of money in her hands, just dont think she would be so loyal. Loyalty is only displayed in this story to Ronald Cummings by Misty. jmo

I haven't seen much loyalty for Misty from her parents. Her father made a point to say that she was wild and had caused them more problems than his sons. That alone, made my blood boil. Her mother admitted to blackmailing her and when Misty got the restraining order against Tommy, her mom showed her support by being with him and then making the comments about Ron and Misty. Maybe Misty is guilty of something and her parents know it and they're mad because she dragged them all into this, IDK...but time and time again, I've seen them treat her like an outsider instead of their minor child. I've never seen them take responsibility for Misty's upbringing. Yes, her mom said she was a terrible mother and her dad admitted to being a drug addict, but he blamed her lack of education on her not being able to learn and they blamed her for not getting on the bus. Misty dropped out around the 6th or 7th grade, (12-13 years old), and her parents should have made sure she got to school. She was too young to be running around on her own. They brushed that aside and talked about Misty like she was grown and made her own poor decisions and they had no control. They let her move in with Ron and regardless of him wanting her there, she was their their responsibility and they shouldn't have let her. & then in the middle of his missing child's investigation, they let her marry Ron. Oh my gosh...and I have to wonder why. Too many excuses are made for them, IMO. A lot of emphasis is put on Misty's street smarts and hardness. Well, she learned that behavior somewhere and at a very young age. IDK what her parents know, but IMO, it seems like they've been protecting Tommy, not Misty... because he was unwillingly dragged into a bad situation? maybe, but if that's the case, they need to just say it. Misty has supposedly been offered immunity and they could convince her to confess and help her brother. That report, IMO, should have been all it took to get any parent to pull out all the stops. But nothing...IMO, it seems that they're pulling her in the opposite direction. Out of all the people involved in this, LC sets off my hinky meter the most...not because I think she's guilty, but because IMO, she seems to play a little too free with what she might be hiding. MOO.

 

[lonetraveler]

I need help in finding the directions on how to look up the Jail site to find out if someone has been arrested. I know that I have read it a hundred times on this site but now I need it and can't find it, imagine that, LOL. I would really, really appreciate it if someone could direct me on how to find it, please.

 

[Dr. Know?]

Here you go Lone. You can check current (jail booking log) and also the 3 year history if it's been more than a few days or so.

http://www.pcso.us/corrections/

 

[krkrjx]

RE Lisa blackmailing Misty:

IMO, Misty had some Xanax and Lisa wanted some. Misty would not share. Lisa said, "If you don't share your Xanax, I will go on TV and tell everyone you haven't told all you know about Haleigh."

And then she did just that.

This doesn't necessarily mean Lisa knew for a fact that Misty had not told all, or that Lisa herself knew anything about Haleigh. It was just a threat Lisa made to get something she wanted from Misty--no more and no less.

That's all just MOO, of course.

 

[titanfan62702]

RE Lisa blackmailing Misty:

IMO, Misty had some Xanax and Lisa wanted some. Misty would not share. Lisa said, "If you don't share your Xanax, I will go on TV and tell everyone you haven't told all you know about Haleigh."

And then she did just that.

This doesn't necessarily mean Lisa knew for a fact that Misty had not told all, or that Lisa herself knew anything about Haleigh. It was just a threat Lisa made to get something she wanted from Misty--no more and no less.

That's all just MOO, of course.

I thought Lisa made that comment that she thought Ron and Misty weren't telling everything and that happened when there was little/no contact between Ron & Misty and her family. If I were to make a guess, I'd say that Ron was keeping Misty from her family.

 

[dodie20]

I thought Lisa made that comment that she thought Ron and Misty weren't telling everything and that happened when there was little/no contact between Ron & Misty and her family. If I were to make a guess, I'd say that Ron was keeping Misty from her family.

That's what I thought at the time, but now that Misty has supposedly been offered immunity, I would expect her parents to come down hard on her and insist that she tell all...if she or Ron were the perp. But instead, we got the Haleigh is alive picture. hmmm. Their son is in a whole heap of trouble and if Misty could help him and herself with an immunity deal, then why wouldn't she? & it Would help Tommy if he's not the perp. It would get LE off his back, take that suspect label off his head, and give him something to fight his appeals with. Loyalty to Ron is one thing, but she has herself and her brother to worry about & as far as they all go, I doubt very seriously her family is worried about Ron. This is crazy...everybody acts like they're covering for either themselves or their own families. MOO.

 

[lil momma]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXjxwd-RQb0


At the 6:44 mark the tester asks Misty If she knew anything about HaLeigh going missing. The camera pans out and it says true amd is in green. Maybe i am a little slow at noticing, but just thought i would share

thinking it may not be so bad to go back and review these older videos.

 

[Emeralgem]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXjxwd-RQb0


At the 6:44 mark the tester asks Misty If she knew anything about HaLeigh going missing. The camera pans out and it says true amd is in green. Maybe i am a little slow at noticing, but just thought i would share

thinking it may not be so bad to go back and review these older videos.

IMO.. The reason the machine revealed she was telling the truth about not knowing anything about Haleigh going missing is because she knows Haleigh is not missing...Never was missing eventhough Haleigh was reported as being abducted and missing...JMHO

 

[Flossie JMO]

That's what I thought at the time, but now that Misty has supposedly been offered immunity, I would expect her parents to come down hard on her and insist that she tell all...if she or Ron were the perp. But instead, we got the Haleigh is alive picture. hmmm. Their son is in a whole heap of trouble and if Misty could help him and herself with an immunity deal, then why wouldn't she? & it Would help Tommy if he's not the perp. It would get LE off his back, take that suspect label off his head, and give him something to fight his appeals with. Loyalty to Ron is one thing, but she has herself and her brother to worry about & as far as they all go, I doubt very seriously her family is worried about Ron. This is crazy...everybody acts like they're covering for either themselves or their own families. MOO.

Jmo, Lisa knows what happened. It has nothing to do with Ron, or they would have all screamed it as loud as possible, just because for one, and for two, for the money. Jmo they won't, because Misty and Tommy and possibly Timmy will go down. I don't think they care about Lindsy or Chelsea going down, it's mostly Tommy they worry about, and possibly Timmy as far as clean up, and Misty for going out, jmo. I think the window of opportunity was there for Tommy with Misty gone, and I think he knew, jmo. And did what I think he did. I think none of them want to believe it, even as much as they may suspect it, jmo. So it would be Misty for leaving, Tommy for doing it, and cover up being Lindsy, Chelsea and Timmy, imo, who may have been covering for Misty being gone. And not knowing or believing Tommy was the one and took off leaving Misty to come home to HaLeigh gone. Jmo

 

[lil momma]

IMO.. The reason the machine revealed she was telling the truth about not knowing anything about Haleigh going missing is because she knows Haleigh is not missing...Never was missing eventhough Haleigh was reported as being abducted and missing...JMHO

didn't think of it that way Em, but that does make a heck of a lot of sense.

 

[lil momma]

I go back and fourth, sometimes i am thinking it is so simple, ROn locked the kids in the MH and HaLeigh dies, TN finds her, TN gets Misty over there, after HaLeigh is removed, or maybe just to keep JR occupied in the masterbed room, while HaLeigh was removed. They aren't sure how HaLeigh died, ron dealing drugs always leaves the possibility open for HaLeigh to have ingested them, can't risk that with LE and the public- they have a rep to keep up..lol, HaLeigh had to be removed and reported missing. Autopsy would reveal too much.

This has been my main theory for a while, as it seems simple, and something that can be thought about in a short period of time. the rest of all the stories were lies that were made up b/c that part wasn't thought of. (had to be quick on their toes)

I do think Ron cared about his kids, but in his own selfish ways. I don't think Misty was given a script per say, but given the basics and was forced to fill in the blanks.

this is my thought for the minute

JMO

 

[Levi]

I had always thought Ron either drugged Misty, ordered Misty to drug Haleigh, or he went into a rage about Misty and WBG and Haleigh got in the way.

But as soon as AH reported Misty refused to immunity, I knew Misty is the one that killed Haleigh, and nobody else.

I think police, like me, had thought Misty was covering for someone, but since she refused to rat anyone else out, that tells me she is the main one responsible.

I still think Ron knows exactly what happened, and choose to cover it up. Knowing police would be all over his butt, CPS would be all over his butt, and Jr would possible go to Crystal.

I also think Ron knows more than just "after the fact", if Misty was having problems controlling Haleigh, and she called/texted Ron for advice (would explain their communication) that would put Ron in the mix, and make him just as legally responsible as Misty.

I think because Misty hasn't stated specifically, directly, about who/what killed Haleigh, and the location of the body means Misty was the sole one that did the "act" that caused Haleigh's demise, and she was also there during the disposal of the body.

I think Ron also could have snuck out of work to help dispose of the body, get rid of evidence, see what Misty did, maybe bark some orders, threaten people, and help cover it up.

I think Ron choose to cover up for many reasons, the big reason being he didn't want it to get in the way of his lifestyle. He was enjoying his life style of sex, drugs, underage girls, and criminal activity... He wanted to cover it up, play the victim, accuse Crystal, and then get on with his life behind the scenes.

I think Ron, Teresa, Annette, also realized they could milk this for donations and sympathy and they were going to ride this gravy train as long as they could.

I think LE should really be putting pressure on Annette and Teresa. I don't know if they know exactly what happened, but they know both Ron and Misty were involved. They have been in CYA mode since Haleigh vanished. They know some incriminating stuff. I'd be all over them, and I do not buy Annette's story that she was at the mobile home that night.

If LE can get Annette to confess she wasn't there, the ball could start rolling...

My prime suspects are Ron and Misty.

Tommy is the fall guy... I think if Werter, or Steve Brown didn't stick their noses into this, Tommy would have broke a long time ago... Werter and Brown were so damn desperate to pin this on Joe. They both caused a big mess in this case, and I think they're a big DISGRACE to their professions.

Tommy is tainted at this point, anything he says, even if it isn't the truth, cannot be used in court, because it is simply not credible.

That is why I think the focus should shift towards Annette and Teresa.

 

[Levi]

Jmo, Lisa knows what happened. It has nothing to do with Ron, or they would have all screamed it as loud as possible, just because for one, and for two, for the money. Jmo they won't, because Misty and Tommy and possibly Timmy will go down. I don't think they care about Lindsy or Chelsea going down, it's mostly Tommy they worry about, and possibly Timmy as far as clean up, and Misty for going out, jmo. I think the window of opportunity was there for Tommy with Misty gone, and I think he knew, jmo. And did what I think he did. I think none of them want to believe it, even as much as they may suspect it, jmo. So it would be Misty for leaving, Tommy for doing it, and cover up being Lindsy, Chelsea and Timmy, imo, who may have been covering for Misty being gone. And not knowing or believing Tommy was the one and took off leaving Misty to come home to HaLeigh gone. Jmo

Chelsea is just using this case to get some money and attention.

Ron and Misty are the most logical suspects. The 911 call was obviously staged and fake. Their marriage was repulsive, their trips to Orlando & New York was evil.

And Teresa and Annette know damn well they're son and his little girlfriend are guilty. They choose to cover it up, because they know they wouldn't be able to get donations, sympathy, and invites on national TV if they didn't try to paint Ron and Misty as ideal parental figures for Haleigh.

Teresa and Annette are trying to ride this gravy train and milk this case to the bitter end, I predict all that will come to a screeching hault in the future.

A lot of people abandoned them after Ron was busted dealing drugs with Misty. What sort of man deals drugs while his child is missing? What sort of man hangs around the woman lying about what happened to his child? Simple and logical answer is, a man that is involved and never gave a damn about his child.

What sort of mother or grandmother acts the way Annette and Teresa act? A mother and grandmother who want to milk this case for their own financial benefit.

 

[Levi]

My hope is one day, Teresa, Annette, Ron, and Misty are all rounded up and charged in connection to Haleigh's death.

 

[Levi]

Jmo, Lisa knows what happened. It has nothing to do with Ron, or they would have all screamed it as loud as possible, just because for one, and for two, for the money. Jmo they won't, because Misty and Tommy and possibly Timmy will go down. I don't think they care about Lindsy or Chelsea going down, it's mostly Tommy they worry about, and possibly Timmy as far as clean up, and Misty for going out, jmo. I think the window of opportunity was there for Tommy with Misty gone, and I think he knew, jmo. And did what I think he did. I think none of them want to believe it, even as much as they may suspect it, jmo. So it would be Misty for leaving, Tommy for doing it, and cover up being Lindsy, Chelsea and Timmy, imo, who may have been covering for Misty being gone. And not knowing or believing Tommy was the one and took off leaving Misty to come home to HaLeigh gone. Jmo

LE doesn't seem to agree with your theory:

Investigators said they believe the people connected to the case, including Croslin and Haleigh's father, have not told everything they know about what happened...
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/new...s-think-family-hasnt-told-whole-story?cid=rss

“Besides ‘No I didn’t have nothing to do with my child being missing,’ what do you say?” he asked.

Maj. Gary Bowling, director of law enforcement for the department, said detectives would like to interview Cummings again but have been resisted.
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2...6_months_later

Sounds to me like Ronald is more of a target than Lindsy, Chelsea, Timmy, or Lisa.

 

[Levi]

I'm not ruling Timmy out, but I need to know more about the results of his polygraph and what questions he failed.

Let's say they ask him "Do you know what happened to Haleigh" and he claims "No."

Well, I think if I was asked that question I may fail the question as well if I answered "no", because I strongly believe that Ronald and Misty are guilty as sin and because I feel so strongly about it, and think I have a good idea as to what happened, it may come up as deceptive.

Let's say Timmy really suspects his sister or others of being involved, but doesn't want to say it, that could explain his reasons for moving to MA, and could explain his failing of a polygraph.

I also think some of the theories tying Chelsea, Timmy, Lisa, Lindsy, Tommy, etc to this are weird... I mean did they all just get together and decided as a big ole group they were gonna go kill a child?

Lisa Croslin openly stated she thinks Ron and Misty know more... If Lisa knew anything she'd have thrown them under the bus a long time ago.

I'm just waiting for someone to try to tie poor ole Flo Hollars to this, all the way in Nashville, Tennessee....