General theory thread and motives rehashed #4

[Emeralgem]

As I see it we don't know what time he arrived at work and we don't know what time he left.. Shoemaker has also stated he could not be accounted for the entire night... I find it hard to believe he left PDM at 3:00 am in the morning, conveniently stopped by the store on the way home and was home for two or three minutes before that 911 call was made at 3:27 am ...Also, fingerprint scanner was not in place at PDM when Haleigh was reported as being abducted..Punch cards were used at that time and IIRC the camera located at the punch card area had been positioned so it would point toward the ceiling instead of toward the employees who were clocking in for work.....That in itself is an indication perhaps there was someone who were clocking in for other workers.....
One other thing, ONLY two pings from his place of employment the entire night when we have been told he made over 90 phone calls that night? IMHO.. Ron C doesn't have a rock solid alibi when it comes down to him not being involved with what happened to Haleigh.. JMHO

 

[titanfan62702]

As I see it we don't know what time he arrived at work and we don't know what time he left.. Shoemaker has also stated he could not be accounted for the entire night... I find it hard to believe he left PDM at 3:00 am in the morning, conveniently stopped by the store on the way home and was home for two or three minutes before that 911 call was made at 3:27 am ...Also, fingerprint scanner was not in place at PDM when Haleigh was reported as being abducted..Punch cards were used at that time and IIRC the camera located at the punch card area had been positioned so it would point toward the ceiling instead of toward the employees who were clocking in for work.....That in itself is an indication perhaps there was someone who were clocking in for other workers.....
One other thing, ONLY two pings from his place of employment the entire night when we have been told he made over 90 phone calls that night? IMHO.. Ron C doesn't have a rock solid alibi when it comes down to him not being involved with what happened to Haleigh.. JMHO

From the early days, I've thought that those who support Ron have joined the "protest too much" club and he's the prez starting with "I'm done".

 

[Emeralgem]

From the early days, I've thought that those who support Ron have joined the "protest too much" club and he's the prez starting with "I'm done".

I'm more inclined to believe his momma is the one presiding over that club..JMHO

 

[titanfan62702]

I'm more inclined to believe his momma is the one presiding over that club..JMHO

I think you're right.

 

[lonetraveler]

I believe it was SHoemaker who stated that Ron was working mostly by himeself that night unsupervised, i can't seem to find the link and don't have much time at the moment, but i will look for it later and post it. i am almost 100% sure it was one of Nancy's videos.

It was also Shoemaker who made a statement about PDM using a "thumb scanning system", problem is..........he omitted the fact that PDM started using this system "after" Ronald was fired. He was playing on words and like an attorney will do, he used a general statement that covered the "present situation" and made it look like this was the system was being utilized all along. False presentation. Untruth..........consciously not clarifying his answer. Name it what you will, I call it intentionally lying.

 

[Chablis]

I think you're right.

I think this case is twisted, and I sometimes lean to Hope Sykes having a major part in this. Her mother was also with Ron and Misty going to get all those drugs when they ended up arrested...... and now shes dead..

I would like to know more about the dynamics in that family and who was Ron really closer to? Katrina Belcher did a lot for Ronald.

 

[Flossie JMO]

It was also Shoemaker who made a statement about PDM using a "thumb scanning system", problem is..........he omitted the fact that PDM started using this system "after" Ronald was fired. He was playing on words and like an attorney will do, he used a general statement that covered the "present situation" and made it look like this was the system was being utilized all along. False presentation. Untruth..........consciously not clarifying his answer. Name it what you will, I call it intentionally lying.

JMO, I believe the thumb scanning was in place at the time.

 

[Chablis]

JMO, I believe the thumb scanning was in place at the time.

Even if it was, how does the scanner prevent someone leaving the premises?

 

[Emeralgem]

Even if it was, how does the scanner prevent someone leaving the premises?

IIRC The thumb scanner wasn't in place on February 9, 2009...

 

[EastCoast]

I actually did some research today on if the water department keeps a detailed record on a households water consumption to see if Misty was really washing blankets. That is how badly I want this case to move forward. Any little thing that can get it going again. Well I got nowhere with that. So what is next? Do we just have to sit here and wait?

 

[Chablis]

IIRC The thumb scanner wasn't in place on February 9, 2009...

I know. I am just saying that its just a scan, one second in time. Its not like the employees are microchipped and under heavy security, it just in the grand scheme of things does not matter, nothing prevented Ronald from leaving and doing something terrible to his child.

 

[Emeralgem]

I actually did some research today on if the water department keeps a detailed record on a households water consumption to see if Misty was really washing blankets. That is how badly I want this case to move forward. Any little thing that can get it going again. Well I got nowhere with that. So what is next? Do we just have to sit here and wait?

IMO... You, like many others here, are to be commended for your dedication to this case...

I'll refer you to an article I posted in another thread the other morning..

http://tampa-florida-lawyers.com/?p=527




IMHO.. I seriously doubt Haleigh was ever at the MH on Green Lane after she got off that school bus...And I highly suspect Misty wasn't there either until the wee hours of the morning on the 10th... She didn't wash any blankets that night at the MH on Green Lane and just like Ron C stated, the bed was never slept in that night...This could very well be the ONLY truth he has ever stated concerning the events of that evening, but since it negates Misty's statement and sets her up to take the heat, I'm not at all surprised... Ron C is good at talking out of both sides of his mouth and never letting the right hand know what the left hand is doing...

Unfortunately, for Misty she was too upset over what had happened to Haleigh to realize she as well as others in her family were being set up to take the FALL for Ron C when the time was right...

The article outlines several things that could have happend to Haleigh..I'm inclined to believe whatever happened to Haleigh occurred at someone else's home..And Ron C was on the scene and the one responsible for her demise...Whether it be foul play or an accident...He is the one responsible...MHO..

 

[EastCoast]

IMO... You, like many others here, are to be commended for your dedication to this case...

I'll refer you to an article I posted in another thread the other morning..

http://tampa-florida-lawyers.com/?p=527




IMHO.. I seriously doubt Haleigh was ever at the MH on Green Lane after she got off that school bus...And I highly suspect Misty wasn't there either until the wee hours of the morning on the 10th... She didn't wash any blankets that night at the MH on Green Lane and just like Ron C stated, the bed was never slept in that night...This could very well be the ONLY truth he has ever stated concerning the events of that evening, but since it negates Misty's statement and sets her up to take the heat, I'm not at all surprised... Ron C is good at talking out of both sides of his mouth and never letting the right hand know what the left hand is doing...

Unfortunately, for Misty she was too upset over what had happened to Haleigh to realize she as well as others in her family were being set up to take the FALL for Ron C when the time was right...

The article outlines several things that could have happend to Haleigh..I'm inclined to believe whatever happened to Haleigh occurred at someone else's home..And Ron C was on the scene and the one responsible for her demise...Whether it be foul play or an acci
dent...He is the one responsible...MHO..[/QUOTE
Thank you for that link. I too think Ronald is responsible for what happened to Haleigh, and that Misty is probably the "key" in that she can really tell what happened. I sometimes think that she still doesn't know she is the key, and she is not being truthful. And why throw the A/C man into the mix? He could place Misty and children at the mobile home at that time. We still don't know about that. I have stated before that I do not see Misty ever harming Haleigh.

 

[EastCoast]

I am not trying to bicker or argue, just trying to make sense of it all. This case needs to go forward, and maybe by bringing some points up again, we can get somewhere? I hope so.

 

[Emeralgem]

IMO... You, like many others here, are to be commended for your dedication to this case...

I'll refer you to an article I posted in another thread the other morning..

http://tampa-florida-lawyers.com/?p=527




IMHO.. I seriously doubt Haleigh was ever at the MH on Green Lane after she got off that school bus...And I highly suspect Misty wasn't there either until the wee hours of the morning on the 10th... She didn't wash any blankets that night at the MH on Green Lane and just like Ron C stated, the bed was never slept in that night...This could very well be the ONLY truth he has ever stated concerning the events of that evening, but since it negates Misty's statement and sets her up to take the heat, I'm not at all surprised... Ron C is good at talking out of both sides of his mouth and never letting the right hand know what the left hand is doing...

Unfortunately, for Misty she was too upset over what had happened to Haleigh to realize she as well as others in her family were being set up to take the FALL for Ron C when the time was right...

The article outlines several things that could have happend to Haleigh..I'm inclined to believe whatever happened to Haleigh occurred at someone else's home..And Ron C was on the scene and the one responsible for her demise...Whether it be foul play or an acci
dent...He is the one responsible...MHO..[/QUOTE
Thank you for that link. I too think Ronald is responsible for what happened to Haleigh, and that Misty is probably the "key" in that she can really tell what happened. I sometimes think that she still doesn't know she is the key, and she is not being truthful. And why throw the A/C man into the mix? He could place Misty and children at the mobile home at that time. We still don't know about that. I have stated before that I do not see Misty ever harming Haleigh.

Last I heard the A/C man is a close friend of a close relative...But what do I know? JMHO..

ETA. I also believe Misty is capable of telling what happened but last I heard LE is only interested in knowing where Haleigh's remains are located... I highly suspect Misty does not have that information...The Cummings/Neves/Sykes clan would never tell Misty where and how Haleigh's remains were disposed of that night...NEVER..

 

[EastCoast]

Last I heard the A/C man is a close friend of a close relative...But what do I know? JMHO..

And that is very true. And you know lots what I have seen. They sure did clear him fast and get him out of the picture.

 

[Emeralgem]

And that is very true. And you know lots what I have seen. They sure did clear him fast and get him out of the picture.

Merchant is the one who cleared him within an hour and thats WHY I believe Merchant should be investigated...JMHO

 

[Flossie JMO]

And that is very true. And you know lots what I have seen. They sure did clear him fast and get him out of the picture.

While I don't believe Ronald is responsible for HaLeigh's disappearance, I would like to know what the AC man and neighbors saw that afternoon/evening.

 

[Emeralgem]

IMO..IF the A/C man is a close friend to a close relative in Ron C's family then he is not a reliable witness..
Also, to my knowledge there haven't been any neighbors who have come forth with any knowledge of what transpired that afternoon/evening of the 9th..We do have neighbors hearing a woman scream and hearing Misty on the phone in the wee hours of the morning on the 10th, but thats it...JMHO..

 

[titanfan62702]

IMO..IF the A/C man is a close friend to a close relative in Ron C's family then he is not a reliable witness..
Also, to my knowledge there haven't been any neighbors who have come forth with any knowledge of what transpired that afternoon/evening of the 9th..We do have neighbors hearing a woman scream and hearing Misty on the phone in the wee hours of the morning on the 10th, but thats it...JMHO..

There were rumors that someone saw some children, maybe HaLeigh. There was also the one that the purple car was there all night but nobody has ever answered what Ron drove to work or wherever he was.