General theory thread and motives rehashed #5

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Crystal Sheffield's payment or non payment of child support is really not relevant. I don't think anyone who isn't a fringe Timothy Holmseth follower suspects she was involved... Why are some so hung up on her? I don't understand it. It is very weird.

Take Crystal out of the equation, and put the people who haven't cooperated, lied, and tried to thwart law enforcement, ie: Misty Croslin and Ronald Cummings... and put them under the microscope.

ITA Levi, I can't believe that Crystal is being laid on the Chopping Block again. Ronald was most likely was receiving Medicaid and most likely monthly checks on each of the children with EBT (foodstamps) thrown in as well. Financially, he was better off without Social Services counting in a piddly little check from Crystal. Ronald probably intentionally worked sporadically in order not to screw up his monthly amout he was receiving. I guess while Crystal is being chopped, Ron can rest a bit.
 
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/...ed_ronald_and_misty_lost_their_way_long_ago_1

This article explains how Ronald Cummings, Misty Croslin, Crystal Sheffield, Amber and son and the relationships involved. Also explains how Ronald and Misty were brought up.....a bit of family history as well.

Worth the read and helps you understand the chronological order of the families' relationships.

There appears to be no mystery as far as Ronald's "three" children and the mothers involved.
 
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/...ed_ronald_and_misty_lost_their_way_long_ago_1

This article explains how Ronald Cummings, Misty Croslin, Crystal Sheffield, Amber and son and the relationships involved. Also explains how Ronald and Misty were brought up.....a bit of family history as well.

Worth the read and helps you understand the chronological order of the families' relationships.

There appears to be no mystery as far as Ronald's "three" children and the mothers involved.

From that link.

Croslin spent the weekend partying, although she was home by the time Cummings went to work Monday evening.
 
From that link.

kCroslin spent the weekend partying, although she was home by the time Cummings went to work Monday evening.

Ah hah!

IIRC, Sykes said she was mad at misty for taking off and leaving rc w/o a babysitter. Say What? We were told she only left for the weekend (though I don't believe that); what was Sykes panties all in a twiddle about? Ron didn't work weekends.

I say this statement by Sykes tells a lot. Dollars to Donuts they couldn't find misty that day to babysit and AS didn't want to do it (monday, the 9th). I'll go one step further. Sykes was sent over there because rc left those kids alone and went to work.

Sykes let the cat out of the bag with her statement. That, my friends, was the reason for TN calling her mother to "Check" on the kids. RC must have been driving all of them "nuts" with his calls. He was a serial caller...have that from a good source.

When was misty located?....we will never know. She was most likely hiding at her mother's house at Shell Harbor. She may have been w/Nay Nay or WBG or JO. We just don't know...but it's a good guess.
 
I am firmly convinced that misty was running around for the two weeks prior to the 9th. When rc started evening shift, she split. They were most likely fighting like cats & dogs. Misty may have told him she was not going to watch the kids alone at night. That is why we heard stories of him leaving the kids in the car at times. Haleigh was missing school during the time. He was frantic.

The Cummings want us to believe they were a happy couple and had a spat. It was necessary for the public to believe this so they could keep jr. DCF would have been all over them. In order to assure CS wouldn't take jr., they moved in w/Sykes (clean house, Grandma type) and got married to seal the deal.

What we don't know is what happened to Haleigh. Did misty return later and find a deceased Haleigh? Does she feel responsible because she wasn't there? Or did she return and she gave her xanax and put her to bed. Did Haleigh OD? Does RC think it was his drugs she used on Haliegh? Did she? Or did rc give Haleigh drugs to keep her asleep while he took off to work? Anything is possible with these two.

The problem lies in the disposal of Haleigh. There shouldn't be a reason for the Croslins to get involved with this, yet they did. Are they silent because they know they could be in as much trouble as the person who caused the death due to them hiding the body? Did Nay help dispose of Haleigh? Did JO?

Tommy put himself flat in the middle of the crime. Was he lying the entire time to save his sister? Or did he, JO and misty all know what happened to Haleigh and all share responsibility?

All I know for sure is that rc and misty knew on Feb 10 that Haleigh was gone forever.
 
Tommy put himself flat in the middle of the crime. Was he lying the entire time to save his sister? Or did he, JO and misty all know what happened to Haleigh and all share responsibility?

I go with Hope. She was targeted for a reason as well. jmo
 
What is so frustrating about this is rc's behavior. He never puts the blame on JO. He clearly defends himself by saying "There was no fight". He has a perfect perp here...yet rc doesn't go for it. He keeps JO out of the picture. Why? Even from his jail cell..when he had the opportunity, he never claimed or yelled, "Go get Joe O.", not once. He offered up Crystal and he offered up misty as the two who may have taken Haleigh. He couldn't decide which one....he did this talking to tn from his drug arrest.

Why did rc not even mention JO to his mother while they were talking about who has Haleigh.
 
What is so frustrating about this is rc's behavior. He never puts the blame on JO. He clearly defends himself by saying "There was no fight". He has a perfect perp here...yet rc doesn't go for it. He keeps JO out of the picture. Why? Even from his jail cell..when he had the opportunity, he never claimed or yelled, "Go get Joe O.", not once. He offered up Crystal and he offered up misty as the two who may have taken Haleigh. He couldn't decide which one....he did this talking to tn from his drug arrest.

Why did rc not even mention JO to his mother while they were talking about who has Haleigh.


He offered Crystal and Misty because he felt he could control them and at the same time protect them. He kept Misty from talking to the police so it is not a impossibliity that he could do the same with Crytal.

I think if anyone drugged the kids that night it was Ronald. I think like you they were left alone. AS was sent to check on them or pick them up. I have long wondered if she didn't take them to her house and that is where Haleigh died.
 
Ok, this is terrifying.

What if he drugged the kids and Haleigh died and he put her to bed? Then left and Misty came back at whatever time and assumed the kids were sleeping and went to bed and Ron snuck back in took Haleigh and disposed of her? Misty did say that she woke up and Ron was standing in the back door?
 
Ok, this is terrifying.

What if he drugged the kids and Haleigh died and he put her to bed? Then left and Misty came back at whatever time and assumed the kids were sleeping and went to bed and Ron snuck back in took Haleigh and disposed of her? Misty did say that she woke up and Ron was standing in the back door?

I dunno. I do know that this is the first case I have followed and I have looked at EVERYONE even to the point of neighbors and friends. I have tried to keep an open mind. I exhausted all those who knew Haleigh except for Ron, Misty, AS, TN, Aunt Katrina and possibly Hope. I come back to these people every time. I am as sure as one can be without evidence that these people know what and how Haliegh died. I think all of them know/knew exactly what happened. Misty is the wildcard to me. Is she directly involved or standing by her man? You just can't tell with her. I think she was gone from that home and was asked to babysit that night. I think maybe the kids were drugged and it only makes sense for Teresa or Ron to have done it Misty was not there per her being asked to come babysit and by Ronald picking up Haliegh at the bus stop. Where was Jr.?

There is information on the internet that claims Ron took the kids to work and kept them in his car/truck while he worked. Now, I ask, where was TN or AS those nights? Why was the kids allowed to be in the car all night? Doesn't seem like a huge leap to me that they would promise to get them and then not show up. Who lets their grandbabies be in a car in a dark parking lot for hours? I say someone cold enough to leave a child alone is not a stretch. I think it lies with Ron and one of his mothers or both. Funny how they hated Misty when she left but she was wonderful after Haleigh disappeared. Watch who lies and see what they lie about.

BTW, I wanna pinch Misty for not telling whatever it is she knows. Her punishment would be the about the same for whatever she did in this. I just don't think Misty killed Haleigh, not even by accident. Ron and the family would have had her in jail and moved on by now. All this is only my very humble opinion.
 
What is so frustrating about this is rc's behavior. He never puts the blame on JO. He clearly defends himself by saying "There was no fight". He has a perfect perp here...yet rc doesn't go for it. He keeps JO out of the picture. Why? Even from his jail cell..when he had the opportunity, he never claimed or yelled, "Go get Joe O.", not once. He offered up Crystal and he offered up misty as the two who may have taken Haleigh. He couldn't decide which one....he did this talking to tn from his drug arrest.

Why did rc not even mention JO to his mother while they were talking about who has Haleigh.

IIRC.. On the tapes with Cobra he insinuated Jo did it.. He told Cobra Jo liked to feed small animals to the gators.. Even told Cobra Haleigh was most probably with the gators in the river....Ron C, like his mother and his grandma talks out of both sides of his mouth..JMHO
 
Crystal cant fathom Haleigh is dead and Ron is talking about the gators burrowing with his missing daughter telling the world, "Basically they told me to prepare for a funeral" Then the cops said, nope, not what we said.

He needs to stop the madness and tell what he did to Haleigh and pay for his crimes. I am sure he probably is hoping the Governor pardons him or something.

jmo
 
ITA Levi, I can't believe that Crystal is being laid on the Chopping Block again. Ronald was most likely was receiving Medicaid and most likely monthly checks on each of the children with EBT (foodstamps) thrown in as well. Financially, he was better off without Social Services counting in a piddly little check from Crystal. Ronald probably intentionally worked sporadically in order not to screw up his monthly amout he was receiving. I guess while Crystal is being chopped, Ron can rest a bit.

Oh, I can.. She must not be doing exactly what TN wants her to do right now...JMHO
 
Oh, I can.. She must not be doing exactly what TN wants her to do right now...JMHO

Which would be funny if it wasn't so sad that Teresa who for whatever reasons signed her kids over when her son was only 3 has the audacity to demand anything from these young mothers her son got in trouble.

And she dared go on NG and say the Croslins are dysfunctional. Pretty sure thats going to bite her eventually.

jmo
 
I dunno. I do know that this is the first case I have followed and I have looked at EVERYONE even to the point of neighbors and friends. I have tried to keep an open mind. I exhausted all those who knew Haleigh except for Ron, Misty, AS, TN, Aunt Katrina and possibly Hope. I come back to these people every time. I am as sure as one can be without evidence that these people know what and how Haliegh died. I think all of them know/knew exactly what happened. Misty is the wildcard to me. Is she directly involved or standing by her man? You just can't tell with her. I think she was gone from that home and was asked to babysit that night. I think maybe the kids were drugged and it only makes sense for Teresa or Ron to have done it Misty was not there per her being asked to come babysit and by Ronald picking up Haliegh at the bus stop. Where was Jr.?

There is information on the internet that claims Ron took the kids to work and kept them in his car/truck while he worked. Now, I ask, where was TN or AS those nights? Why was the kids allowed to be in the car all night? Doesn't seem like a huge leap to me that they would promise to get them and then not show up. Who lets their grandbabies be in a car in a dark parking lot for hours? I say someone cold enough to leave a child alone is not a stretch. I think it lies with Ron and one of his mothers or both. Funny how they hated Misty when she left but she was wonderful after Haleigh disappeared. Watch who lies and see what they lie about.

BTW, I wanna pinch Misty for not telling whatever it is she knows. Her punishment would be the about the same for whatever she did in this. I just don't think Misty killed Haleigh, not even by accident. Ron and the family would have had her in jail and moved on by now. All this is only my very humble opinion.

I totally agree...IMHO Misty doesn't know where Haleigh's remains are located.. The Cummings/Neves/Sykes clan would never allow her or any other Croslin to have that information..
And IF by chance Misty is still standing by her man I feel certain she is still being fed BS by someone as to how much Ron C still loves her...That someone could even be Hope...Aren't they in the same facility? JMHO
 
I totally agree...IMHO Misty doesn't know where Haleigh's remains are located.. The Cummings/Neves/Sykes clan would never allow her or any other Croslin to have that information..
And IF by chance Misty is still standing by her man I feel certain she is still being fed BS by someone as to how much Ron C still loves her...That someone could even be Hope...Aren't they in the same facility? JMHO

Hope was also by Mistys side when she got Ronald Sr tattooed on her about two weeks before they were arrested, when they were sneaking around to see each other trying to make everyone believe they broke up and Ron was getting out of limos with his lawyer because he was dating some stripper.
 
Which would be funny if it wasn't so sad that Teresa who for whatever reasons signed her kids over when her son was only 3 has the audacity to demand anything from these young mothers her son got in trouble.

And she dared go on NG and say the Croslins are dysfunctional. Pretty sure thats going to bite her eventually.

jmo

IMHO.. That statement bit her in the rear long before she ever stated the Croslins were a dysfunctional family on national tv....... That statement was just plain ole stupidity on her part, thinking she could fool the world...Boils down to nothing but delusional thinking......JMHO
 
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/...ed_ronald_and_misty_lost_their_way_long_ago_1

This article explains how Ronald Cummings, Misty Croslin, Crystal Sheffield, Amber and son and the relationships involved. Also explains how Ronald and Misty were brought up.....a bit of family history as well.

Worth the read and helps you understand the chronological order of the families' relationships.

There appears to be no mystery as far as Ronald's "three" children and the mothers involved.
Thank you for linking this. My point about the article was this...as far as I can tell, nobody ever disputed the writer's claims... which very clearly stated that Ronald is the father of 3 children, and was also very clear on who the other mother is. Also, I've never heard anybody involved, claim that Ron is not the father of this child. But, except for showing Ron's character, I doubt any of this pertains to this case...just like I doubt CS not paying support, pertains. JMO.
 
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