General theory thread and motives rehashed #5

[Dr.Fessel]

My issue is the non payment, of court ordered support, for her child.

I have an issue with the judge in that case that ordered her to pay child support and gave Ron custody of the kids after she begged the judge in a letter not to take her kids away because something horrible would happen to them.

 

[lonetraveler]

Ah hah!

IIRC, Sykes said she was mad at misty for taking off and leaving rc w/o a babysitter. Say What? We were told she only left for the weekend (though I don't believe that); what was Sykes panties all in a twiddle about? Ron didn't work weekends.

I say this statement by Sykes tells a lot. Dollars to Donuts they couldn't find misty that day to babysit and AS didn't want to do it (monday, the 9th). I'll go one step further. Sykes was sent over there because rc left those kids alone and went to work.

Sykes let the cat out of the bag with her statement. That, my friends, was the reason for TN calling her mother to "Check" on the kids. RC must have been driving all of them "nuts" with his calls. He was a serial caller...have that from a good source.

When was misty located?....we will never know. She was most likely hiding at her mother's house at Shell Harbor. She may have been w/Nay Nay or WBG or JO. We just don't know...but it's a good guess.

Yep, Whisp, you noticed the very same thing that I noticed more than anything else. AS's statement that she was mad because Misty left Ron without anyone to babysit the kids tells me that she was summoned by Teresa after Teresa found out that Ron had left the children alone. I have never believed that Misty was there that night until she was "found" and brought over to help with the coverup and the "abduction" story. There was no way that Ronald and family were going to let it get out that Ronald left the children alone, locked in the MH. If you let yourself believe that AS and her (reportedly medically trained Aunt Elise) then that makes AS one of the last people to see Haleigh. If AS puts herself at that MH at around 8:00 pm, then she most likely, IMO, found a dead, overdosed little girl. That was about the time that the multitude of calls were made by Ron desperately trying to find Misty. AND THE RACE WAS ON!

 

[lonetraveler]

IIRC.. On the tapes with Cobra he insinuated Jo did it.. He told Cobra Jo liked to feed small animals to the gators.. Even told Cobra Haleigh was most probably with the gators in the river....Ron C, like his mother and his grandma talks out of both sides of his mouth..JMHO

Also on the Cobra tapes, Ronald is explaining why the gun was hidden in the culvert and why it was hid on that particular person's property. I'll see if I can find it but IIRC, he was bragging about setting someone up.

 

[Emeralgem]

Also on the Cobra tapes, Ronald is explaining why the gun was hidden in the culvert and why it was hid on that particular person's property. I'll see if I can find it but IIRC, he was bragging about setting someone up.

Ronald L. Cummings setting someone up to take the fall for him? Imagine that...JMHO

 

[Flossie JMO]

"Misty said" doesn't prove a thing.

Exactly. And fact is, there is no proof of who is the father to J. Absolutely none

 

[lonetraveler]

Ronald L. Cummings setting someone up to take the fall for him? Imagine that...JMHO

Yep, so shocking, isn't it? :floorlaugh::floorlaugh: So far I can only find the Cobra audio tapes with Ronald on the site that we can't link to. What did catch my eye was that the gun, according to the tapes was hidden at Hank Senior's property. I've got to go look at Ger's photos for a minute.


ETA: Checked with our photo expert and have decided that Cobra was totally mistaken about the gun being found at Hank Sr.'s home.............it was definitely Tommy's home.

 

[dodie20]

Which would be funny if it wasn't so sad that Teresa who for whatever reasons signed her kids over when her son was only 3 has the audacity to demand anything from these young mothers her son got in trouble.

And she dared go on NG and say the Croslins are dysfunctional. Pretty sure thats going to bite her eventually.

jmo

Well, cosidering that her son and niece are both serving long prison sentences, I'd say that qualifies as family dysfunction too. Those 2 are no less related than Misty and Tommy. IMO, this is a classic example of what happens when 2 very dysfunctional families collide. JMO, but families who deal drugs together, shouldn't cast stones...and that goes for the Croslins too. JMO.

 

[titanfan62702]

I am firmly convinced that misty was running around for the two weeks prior to the 9th. When rc started evening shift, she split. They were most likely fighting like cats & dogs. Misty may have told him she was not going to watch the kids alone at night. That is why we heard stories of him leaving the kids in the car at times. Haleigh was missing school during the time. He was frantic.

The Cummings want us to believe they were a happy couple and had a spat. It was necessary for the public to believe this so they could keep jr. DCF would have been all over them. In order to assure CS wouldn't take jr., they moved in w/Sykes (clean house, Grandma type) and got married to seal the deal.

What we don't know is what happened to Haleigh. Did misty return later and find a deceased Haleigh? Does she feel responsible because she wasn't there? Or did she return and she gave her xanax and put her to bed. Did Haleigh OD? Does RC think it was his drugs she used on Haliegh? Did she? Or did rc give Haleigh drugs to keep her asleep while he took off to work? Anything is possible with these two.

The problem lies in the disposal of Haleigh. There shouldn't be a reason for the Croslins to get involved with this, yet they did. Are they silent because they know they could be in as much trouble as the person who caused the death due to them hiding the body? Did Nay help dispose of Haleigh? Did JO?

Tommy put himself flat in the middle of the crime. Was he lying the entire time to save his sister? Or did he, JO and misty all know what happened to Haleigh and all share responsibility?

All I know for sure is that rc and misty knew on Feb 10 that Haleigh was gone forever.

Have you tried replacing Hope for Joe as the cousin that was there according to TN and wasn't according to RC, neither of which were in the mh that evening, according to their own words.

 

[dodie20]

Have you tried replacing Hope for Joe as the cousin that was there according to TN and wasn't according to RC, neither of which were in the mh that evening, according to their own words.

I have, butthat theory is a deadend, for me. On the 911, I clearly hear Misty say, OMG, is it Hope?', so it's MOO that maybe she was connected to this night, and her arrest wasn't so random afterall... but trying to make her fit is impossible. Misty has clearly stated that she herself, was there that night, CS said jr said Misty was there and asleep, so where would HS fit in? except maybe knowledge after the fact. Also, I can't really believe that Misty was or is in the dark about what happened to Haleigh. She failed those lie tests, miserably, for a resaon. But, the early report of Ron's cousin being at the trailer, Misty saying hope on the 911, TN saying she sent a relative over, AS changing key details of her visit, and then HS being arrested and given such a hefty sentence, makes me question everybody's roles. JMO.

 

[mkay882]

I have an issue with the judge in that case that ordered her to pay child support and gave Ron custody of the kids after she begged the judge in a letter not to take her kids away because something horrible would happen to them.

"Our" issues with the judges decision to give Ron his kids and order Crystal to pay child support matter not.
It was within the law and the judges rights to do so.
End of story <shrug>

 

[Emeralgem]

IMHO..Crystal's plea to save her children fell on deaf ears.. And NOW that judge has bloodstains on his hands..The night that the lights went out in Florida.. JMHO...

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Have you tried replacing Hope for Joe as the cousin that was there according to TN and wasn't according to RC, neither of which were in the mh that evening, according to their own words.

There was a reason why Ron's sister Crystal was doing all those interviews at the first too. I think she was there too.

 

[Dr. Know?]

I think the drug influence was there with CC & RC per docs. I also think it was possibly a connection with Katrina and Hope was a mess imo. The family, that are bikers by their website, honestly bother me. Not weekend bikers ha ha. jmo

 

[Chablis]

I have, butthat theory is a deadend, for me. On the 911, I clearly hear Misty say, OMG, is it Hope?', so it's MOO that maybe she was connected to this night, and her arrest wasn't so random afterall... but trying to make her fit is impossible. Misty has clearly stated that she herself, was there that night, CS said jr said Misty was there and asleep, so where would HS fit in? except maybe knowledge after the fact. Also, I can't really believe that Misty was or is in the dark about what happened to Haleigh. She failed those lie tests, miserably, for a resaon. But, the early report of Ron's cousin being at the trailer, Misty saying hope on the 911, TN saying she sent a relative over, AS changing key details of her visit, and then HS being arrested and given such a hefty sentence, makes me question everybody's roles. JMO.

Lets say Hope had the kids or was watching them for Ron at one point, she would also drug the kids on his order I suspect. This was probably sadly normal in this family to begin with. Ron and Hope are closer than people suspect, how can they not be, Annette practically raised them both, I mean are others not wondering who Hopes father is and how she became a Sykes when her mother was not even a Sykes by birth? Did Annette have to adopt her to? If anything happened to Haleigh at the hand of any of his beloved family members, I think he would protect them, I mean he was telling hope he would "take her time" Wonder why?

jmo

 

[lonetraveler]

Have you tried replacing Hope for Joe as the cousin that was there according to TN and wasn't according to RC, neither of which were in the mh that evening, according to their own words.

Well, the early reports that were issued did have "a 17 yr. old cousin" was in the MH at the time of Haleigh's disappearance. Hope was Ronald's cousin and she was 17 Yrs old at the time.............:worms:. Of course, later on it became Ronald's 17 yr. old girlfriend was there at that time. Who knows? It's not as if someone is ever going to tell the truth, is it?

 

[lonetraveler]

Hey, I don't mind admitting that I'm one of those posters who hears the third voice in the background on the 911 call.

 

[Chablis]

Well, the early reports that were issued did have "a 17 yr. old cousin" was in the MH at the time of Haleigh's disappearance. Hope was Ronald's cousin and she was 17 Yrs old at the time.............:worms:. Of course, later on it became Ronald's 17 yr. old girlfriend was there at that time. Who knows? It's not as if someone is ever going to tell the truth, is it?

She was the first of this Motley Crew to go to jail the whole summer after Haleigh went missing. I think they expected her to be the weakest link, but I dont think they counted on how loyal she is to Ronald. Notice how Teresa and Rooster Cummings didn't mother and father Ron and his sis, yet you dont find one order making them pay child support. You know why? Because they don't get their kin in trouble no matter what. When the LE have to deal with these types of peoples, it has to be hard.

jmo

 

[Concerned Papa]

"Our" issues with the judges decision to give Ron his kids and order Crystal to pay child support matter not.
It was within the law and the judges rights to do so.
End of story <shrug>

It matters to me.

Crystal's Prophetic Words - YouTube

 

[titanfan62702]

I have, butthat theory is a deadend, for me. On the 911, I clearly hear Misty say, OMG, is it Hope?', so it's MOO that maybe she was connected to this night, and her arrest wasn't so random afterall... but trying to make her fit is impossible. Misty has clearly stated that she herself, was there that night, CS said jr said Misty was there and asleep, so where would HS fit in? except maybe knowledge after the fact. Also, I can't really believe that Misty was or is in the dark about what happened to Haleigh. She failed those lie tests, miserably, for a resaon. But, the early report of Ron's cousin being at the trailer, Misty saying hope on the 911, TN saying she sent a relative over, AS changing key details of her visit, and then HS being arrested and given such a hefty sentence, makes me question everybody's roles. JMO.

I wasn't thinking that Hope was there instead of Misty. I was thinking that she was the cousin that TN referred to.

And now I am seriously thinking that when it first came out that there was a cousin that "magically" turned into a girlfirend, they were both "there" (still not sure where "there" is). And that was part of the llie -- to protect Hope but then TN screwed up (got to remember those lies) and said a cousin, hoping people with think Joe or forgetting she wasn't suppose to say anything.

 

[titanfan62702]

IMHO..Crystal's plea to save her children fell on deaf ears.. And NOW that judge has bloodstains on his hands..The night that the lights went out in Florida.. JMHO...

It was obvious that the judge did not want to admit a mistake -- unfortunately HaLeigh paid the price.