General theory thread and motives rehashed #5

[lonetraveler]

I am here interested in the days and night Haleigh went missing, not other posters "style" dare to be different I suppose (for whatever reasons) People advance and move on and breakups happen in one out of two relationships and owing child support is pretty much the least offensive crime a parent can do to their child. We all get it, she was just terrible for not giving money to Ronald. Should we petition the State of Florida to bring up charges on her and have her locked up for life? Irony, logic and karma all show she now has her son, a dead child, and no support from Ron forever, but thats just not punishment enough to some, which in a way is degrading to Haleighs life.

The funny thing about the degrees of defending Ronald, is in this whole thing, if its pointed out Ron was a bad parent, which is a fact he cant right because hes in prison, the finger and degrading points to Crystal immediately. Not to Tommy who was named a suspect, or Joe or the key Misty, its all about trying to prove that Ron was a good parent when in the grand scheme of things shouldnt matter because hes not, you cant be a good parent and end up in prison so who really cares? jmo

:clap::clap::clap: So well said!!

 

[lonetraveler]

It was obvious that the judge did not want to admit a mistake -- unfortunately HaLeigh paid the price.

Yep and the Florida Dept. of Child Services aren't about to admit that they screwed up either!

 

[mkay882]

The last thing I'm interested in is a tit-for-tat conversation on "who" is at fault.

1) IMO some misunderstand the 'truth' Ron must testify to when Croslins are charged with this crime against HaLeigh (I think that is coming before either Croslin is released) and I don't think it has anything to do with anything he hid from LE.
I guess time will tell since none of us have a clue.

2) LE says neither parent is a suspect.
However continuous digs as to how bad a parent Ron is/was naturally brings up the flip side. HaLeigh's mother who was/is a deadbeat was not a good parent herself.

Can't change either scenario and I refuse to be kept quiet about either of her parents.
They both have faults and neither is better than the other.

 

[Emeralgem]

The last thing I'm interested in is a tit-for-tat conversation on "who" is at fault.

1) IMO some misunderstand the 'truth' Ron must testify to when Croslins are charged with this crime against HaLeigh (I think that is coming before either Croslin is released) and I don't think it has anything to do with anything he hid from LE.I guess time will tell since none of us have a clue.

2) LE says neither parent is a suspect.
However continuous digs as to how bad a parent Ron is/was naturally brings up the flip side. HaLeigh's mother who was/is a deadbeat was not a good parent herself.

Can't change either scenario and I refuse to be kept quiet about either of her parents.
They both have faults and neither is better than the other.

IMHO.. LE will never charge the Croslins with anything pertaining to Haleigh's death until Ron C is officially charged with either voluntary or involuntary manslaughter in connection to Haleigh's death...JMHO....

ETA..In reference to myself I'm not misunderstanding anything when it comes to what LE wants Ron C to tell the truth about....JMHO

 

[stilettos]

IMHO.. LE will never charge the Croslins with anything pertaining to Haleigh's death until Ron C is officially charged with either voluntary or involuntary manslaughter in connection to Haleigh's death...JMHO....

With TN and GGM as accessories...before or after the fact.

 

[Chablis]

Ron will be charged with premeditated murder. This will be a DP case. This is way worse than the CA trial. jmo

 

[Gwen]

Ron will be charged with premeditated murder. This will be a DP case. This is way worse than the CA trial. jmo

Crystal hasn't misplaced or let someone steal one of her kids since Ron used the court system to do so. I have a little knowledge on custody issues and if I recall TN told the judge (perhaps wearing her sheriff's coat) that she would be available to help with the kids. She is on record shirking that responsiblity and further she didn't raise her own.

In my neck of the woods an emergency custody order amounts to who gets to the courthouse first and has possession already. My niece has full custody of her son and her ex has to be phyiscally present at ALL times that he has his son.

I blame TN as much as Ron for the death of little Haleigh. She lied to the judge just like he did to get the custody. AS is at least guilty of raising irresponsible children and liars. IMO I hope all 3 of them are handcuffed and hauled away for the death of Haleigh and the distress caused to Jr and his mother who did not lose either of them. At the least, TN and AS knew the enviroment the kids were in. Why let that go on?

Crystal may not be perfect, but she is and was a better parent. She isn't a criminal who lost her child and sold drugs and threw her life away. I didn't see any video of her slamming media for following her around or getting tattoos from donated money to find Haleigh. No, I disagree with all those who say Ron was right in stealing those kids. For all we know he intended to do just what happened. I still haven't ruled out he sold her. Yeah, I said it. MO of course.

I see the faults of Crystal. There are folks like her raising children everyday who don't make the mistakes Ron made.

Haleigh is lost because her dad and his mothers aided him in stealing the kids. That is the truth of this matter. I would just about bet that Ron never asked for a hearing on the child support issue that was coming up that week. I would bet the state wanted Crystal to start paying so that the state didn't have to keep paying Ronald.

I think no one wanted to keep Haliegh or Jr. I think they were pawns for Ronald to collect state benefits and I DO BELIEVE CRYSTAL wanted her kids.....proof is the letter that LLPapa so eloquently quotes in his video above.

 

[Emeralgem]

Ron will be charged with premeditated murder. This will be a DP case. This is way worse than the CA trial. jmo

I'm certainly not a fan of Ron C and IMHO he should spend the rest of his life behind bars, but I'm not quite understanding why and how you think he will be charged with premeditated murder....JMHO

 

[Gwen]

IMHO.. LE will never charge the Croslins with anything pertaining to Haleigh's death until Ron C is officially charged with either voluntary or involuntary manslaughter in connection to Haleigh's death...JMHO....

ETA..In reference to myself I'm not misunderstanding anything when it comes to what LE wants Ron C to tell the truth about....JMHO[/QUOTE]

What is it that Ron knows about the Croslins that he didn't say when he was interviewed at the time someone 'stole' his child? What did he withhold then that the cops are willing to bargain with him to get now. I don't think it is the Croslins that they want info on from Ronald. He did his best to implicate everyone but himself and Misty. I think it is Ronald they want info on. JMO

 

[Chablis]

I'm certainly not a fan of Ron C and IMHO he should spend the rest of his life behind bars, but I'm not quite understanding why and how you think he will be charged with premeditated murder....JMHO

Because, IMO, when the puzzle is put together and it shows his desperation over several things leading up to her disappearance and him being a drug addict probable psycopath, I believe Haleigh going missing would alleviate some stress and he would be the poor Dad and Misty would come back for sure and it was always going to happen in his mind, I dont think hes the loving father some say he was, probably when he was high, and in a good mood, probably a rare combo for him.

So I wont be shocked to find out he plotted to kill her once she got off the bus. Anyone dumb enough to plot that dumb drug deal and "bricking" a door open is capable of just about anything.

jmo

 

[dodie20]

Because, IMO, when the puzzle is put together and it shows his desperation over several things leading up to her disappearance and him being a drug addict probable psycopath, I believe Haleigh going missing would alleviate some stress and he would be the poor Dad and Misty would come back for sure and it was always going to happen in his mind, I dont think hes the loving father some say he was, probably when he was high, and in a good mood, probably a rare combo for him.

So I wont be shocked to find out he plotted to kill her once she got off the bus. Anyone dumb enough to plot that dumb drug deal and "bricking" a door open is capable of just about anything.

jmo

Considering that we don't have a whole lot of information, it's impossible to be 100% sure of any one theory...so, I have different theories, for each of the main players. Tommy, has over and over again, put himself at the trailer, supposedly failed a LDT, and then told a horrible story that put him in the thick of the action, so, he's my main suspect. But, Misty isn't in the clear either. She had a wild weekend, and according to witnesses at the bus stop, she looked worn out, and smacked a little boy across the face. IMO, it's not a stretch, to imagine her pulling the car over, a few minutes later, and beating Haleigh with a board, or whatever was handy. But, for this theory to work, Ron would have to cover for her...which I think he's capable of. Maybe Haleigh was injured, and insted of seeking medical help, Ron left, and Misty put her to bed, where she later died. Ron has never been upfront with his work hours, and considering that work is his alibi, that's suspicious. I've heard that he got to work early, worked overtime, worked an 8 hour shift, and everything in between. If his alibi was solid, IMO, he would have been shouting it from the rooftops. After the numerous calls to Misty, him stopping for cigs and beer, doesn't add up. He admitted to calling Tommy, looking for Misty, so where did he think she was? Where did he think the kids were? He admitted to asking Tommy if Misty was with him. So, was he ok with the kids being home alone? He said he was surprised to find Misty up and awake. How could that be? She admitted to trying to call him, and as far as I know, he never denied it, and cops have the records, so one way or another, one of them is lying. Because of the beer stop and the convenience of the video cams, I think it's likely that Ron went home and then left, to establish an alibi. What did he do, while at home? Where was Misty? At one point, she said that when she opened the door, she asked him if he had Haleigh. He did not say, ' You never said that'. So??? Also, IMO, the most damning evidence pointing to Ron, was Misty's failed LVA question pertaining to his involvement. That's huge, IMO. Add that to her 'dream' of 3 or 4 men, and there's a problem. CS thought that Haleigh's attendance was significant enough to bring up, and she knows Ron pretty well, so IMO, it is significant. Add that stress to Misty's weekend, and her not wanting to babysit, and Haleigh being more than she could handle, and I see potential motive. Ron married Misty, at a time when a normal man would have been contemplating murdering her...so, I'll never believe that he didn't want her bad enough to go to extremes. Yes, they were separated right after Haleigh came up missing, but we never heard whose idea that was. It could have been Misty's...even if it was Ron's, it didn't last long, and then he married her, for crying out loud. Anyway, these are a few of my suspicions, of these people...sorry my post was so long. JMO.

 

[Flossie JMO]

Considering that we don't have a whole lot of information, it's impossible to be 100% sure of any one theory...so, I have different theories, for each of the main players. 1 Tommy, has over and over again, put himself at the trailer, supposedly failed a LDT, and then told a horrible story that put him in the thick of the action, so, he's my main suspect. 2 But, Misty isn't in the clear either. She had a wild weekend, and according to witnesses at the bus stop, she looked worn out, and smacked a little boy across the face. IMO, it's not a stretch, to imagine her pulling the car over, a few minutes later, and beating Haleigh with a board, or whatever was handy. But, for this theory to work, Ron would have to cover for her...which I think he's capable of. Maybe Haleigh was injured, and insted of seeking medical help, Ron left, and Misty put her to bed, where she later died. 3 Ron has never been upfront with his work hours, and considering that work is his alibi, that's suspicious. I've heard that he got to work early, worked overtime, worked an 8 hour shift, and everything in between. If his alibi was solid, IMO, he would have been shouting it from the rooftops. After the numerous calls to Misty, him stopping for cigs and beer, doesn't add up. 4 He admitted to calling Tommy, looking for Misty, so where did he think she was? Where did he think the kids were? He admitted to asking Tommy if Misty was with him. So, was he ok with the kids being home alone? He said he was surprised to find Misty up and awake. How could that be? She admitted to trying to call him, and as far as I know, he never denied it, and cops have the records, so one way or another, one of them is lying. Because of the beer stop and the convenience of the video cams, I think it's likely that Ron went home and then left, to establish an alibi. What did he do, while at home? Where was Misty? At one point, she said that when she opened the door, she asked him if he had Haleigh. He did not say, ' You never said that'. So??? Also, IMO, the most damning evidence pointing to Ron, was Misty's failed LVA question pertaining to his involvement. That's huge, IMO. 5 Add that to her 'dream' of 3 or 4 men, and there's a problem. 6 CS thought that Haleigh's attendance was significant enough to bring up, and she knows Ron pretty well, so IMO, it is significant. Add that stress to Misty's weekend, and her not wanting to babysit, and Haleigh being more than she could handle, and I see potential motive. 7 Ron married Misty, at a time when a normal man would have been contemplating murdering her...so, I'll never believe that he didn't want her bad enough to go to extremes. Yes, they were separated right after Haleigh came up missing, but we never heard whose idea that was. It could have been Misty's...even if it was Ron's, it didn't last long, and then he married her, for crying out loud. Anyway, these are a few of my suspicions, of these people...sorry my post was so long. JMO.

Interesting post Dodie, I will add my thoughts on some of it,and will bold, and stick in numbers, hope it's ok with you?

1 - ITA, he is my main as well

2 - ITA, she is not in the clear IMO

3 - Not sure what you mean, haven't ever heard Ron address his work hours? LE did and said he was at work etc. and not a suspect

4 - JMO he thought Misty may have brought his children to Tommy's house, or a friend's house etc

5 - did she say men? I don't recall that? do you have a link?

6 - JMO the absences were brought up and not as she felt significant imo but as she knew picking up early etc was no longer allowed imo, and CS was aware as they related to CS taking HaLeigh out, not sure if anyone has posted which absences were attached to CS's visitation? ie keeping her an extra day or more likely picking her up early IMO. If I have time tomorrow I will.

7 - JMO he loved her and believed she wouldn't harm his child, I don't find that odd, I wouldn't believe, or want to believe, someone I loved would harm my child either, CS also spoke of RC's love of HaLeigh and the children's love of MC etc



JMO

 

[mkay882]

IMHO.. LE will never charge the Croslins with anything pertaining to Haleigh's death until Ron C is officially charged with either voluntary or involuntary manslaughter in connection to Haleigh's death...JMHO....

ETA..In reference to myself I'm not misunderstanding anything when it comes to what LE wants Ron C to tell the truth about....JMHO

I completely and unequivocally disagree.
IMO Ron will not be charged with anything HaLeigh related.

 

[Emeralgem]

I completely and unequivocally disagree.IMO Ron will not be charged with anything HaLeigh related.

BBM...With what?

 

[mkay882]

With what I bolded in your post.

 

[GER]

the last thing i'm interested in is a tit-for-tat conversation on "who" is at fault.

1) imo some misunderstand the 'truth' ron must testify to when croslins are charged with this crime against haleigh (i think that is coming before either croslin is released) and i don't think it has anything to do with anything he hid from le.
I guess time will tell since none of us have a clue.

2) le says neither parent is a suspect.
However continuous digs as to how bad a parent ron is/was naturally brings up the flip side. Haleigh's mother who was/is a deadbeat was not a good parent herself.

Can't change either scenario and i refuse to be kept quiet about either of her parents.
They both have faults and neither is better than the other.

***bbm

 

[Flossie JMO]

oops thought I put it, but didn't, on my number 4, should have put JMO "if she was not home and asleep or ignoring his calls" first

 

[Emeralgem]

With what I bolded in your post.

I maintain my stance....LE will never charge the Croslins with anything pertaining to Haleigh's death until Ron C is officially charged with either voluntary or involuntary manslaughter in connection to Haleigh's death

JMHO

 

[Chablis]

I completely and unequivocally disagree.
IMO Ron will not be charged with anything HaLeigh related.

Probably not because he will probably get killed in prison by someone who actually loves their children.

jmo

 

[mkay882]

I maintain my stance....LE will never charge the Croslins with anything pertaining to Haleigh's death until Ron C is officially charged with either voluntary or involuntary manslaughter in connection to Haleigh's death

JMHO

I maintain mine... Ron being charged? It ain't never gonna' happen.
JMHO