General theory thread and motives rehashed #5

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I am going to take a guess the next tat he gets is on his forehead. I bet he is going to make himself look so crazy that he hopes they will deem him to crazy for trial in the MURDER of Haleigh Cummings , thats what HOMOCIDE means.
 
Back on topic, I wonder if anyone has any new opinions on motive and what happened. I can't get past Misty and Tommy. :(


Well, I've gotten past Tommy & Misty. They may have been involved, but more likely set up or caught between a rock and hard place.

As far as motive, only Ron & those connected with him, would have had a motive though I'm not sure there was one.

Deep down I still believe that HaLeigh got ahold of some of Ron's drugs.
 
Back on topic, I wonder if anyone has any new opinions on motive and what happened. I can't get past Misty and Tommy. :(
I can't get past them either, but I can't figure out how Ron's behavior fitS in. I'm to the point, where I think they're all guilty. Logically, Misty should be the perp. She claims to have been the last to see Haleigh, and has failed about 4 lie tests. Would Ron cover for her? On the other hand, what would be Tommy's motive to keep quiet? Why would he falsely blame his cousin? If Misty or Ron was responsible, he would have everything to gain, by coming clean and nothing to lose. Why hasn't Ron come clean? And I do believe, (because of LE statements), he's holding back. What in the world could make this group of people protect each other? JMO.
 
I can't get past them either, but I can't figure out how Ron's behavior fitS in. I'm to the point, where I think they're all guilty. Logically, Misty should be the perp. She claims to have been the last to see Haleigh, and has failed about 4 lie tests. Would Ron cover for her? On the other hand, what would be Tommy's motive to keep quiet? Why would he falsely blame his cousin? If Misty or Ron was responsible, he would have everything to gain, by coming clean and nothing to lose. Why hasn't Ron come clean? And I do believe, (because of LE statements), he's holding back. What in the world could make this group of people protect each other? JMO.

Hi dodie!

the only logical thing i can think of is the death penalty. That and That alone would make them all cover and protect each other....(even though in their self serving minds, they are only protecting themselves, by not saying everyone elses involvement.)

JMO
 
Hi dodie!

the only logical thing i can think of is the death penalty. That and That alone would make them all cover and protect each other....(even though in their self serving minds, they are only protecting themselves, by not saying everyone elses involvement.)

JMO

That doesn't even fit with Misty since she wasn't eligible.
 
Well, I've gotten past Tommy & Misty. They may have been involved, but more likely set up or caught between a rock and hard place.

As far as motive, only Ron & those connected with him, would have had a motive though I'm not sure there was one.

Deep down I still believe that HaLeigh got ahold of some of Ron's drugs.

I would think it was drugs, but if it was it was not administered by Misty. Whatever happened, Misty is "unsure" if Ron is involved, meaning she suspects he came in and took her from the bed and staged the door but she has no proof, and thats just how Ron likes it. jmo
 
Hi dodie!

the only logical thing i can think of is the death penalty. That and That alone would make them all cover and protect each other....(even though in their self serving minds, they are only protecting themselves, by not saying everyone elses involvement.)

JMO
This is a theory I've kind of played around with, that would explain how they could all be culpable, and also answer a few questions. Misty picks Haleigh up from the bus stop, and being tired and worn out, she pulls the car over and beats Haleigh. Although she is severly injured, Ron goes to work and Misty either leaves or hangs around the house and goes to bed...probably after drugging Haleigh. At some point, she finds an almost dead Haleigh. She either calls for help, or Ron does, and a man in black,(Tommy?), takes her. The bouncing couch, could have been a resuscitation attempt. Anyway, this theory could answer a few questions...like why TN sent a relative over, why Misty said Haleigh was fine at the time, how the AC man could have seen Haleigh, (if he did), and why they lied about who picked up Haleigh. Also, it would explain how they were all culpable. Misty for causing the injury, Ron for not seeking help, and Tommy, for disposing of a still alive Haleigh. There are a lot of problems with this theory, but for these 3 to be willing to sit in prison, it's MOO, that they all could be involved. If LE suspects something like this, it could also explain them offering Misty ammunity...because, technically, what she did, wouldn't be murder. If somebody disposed of an alive Haleigh, he would be the murderer. I personally, know of a few instances here, where after severe beatings, men have gone home, gone to bed, and then later died. The same thing happened to a man, after a one vehicle wreck. He was drunk, but to avoid a DWI, he didn't go to the hospital. So, these slow acting brain injuries, do happen. JMO, and just a theory.
 
I can't get past them either, but I can't figure out how Ron's behavior fitS in. I'm to the point, where I think they're all guilty. Logically, Misty should be the perp. She claims to have been the last to see Haleigh, and has failed about 4 lie tests. Would Ron cover for her? On the other hand, what would be Tommy's motive to keep quiet? Why would he falsely blame his cousin? If Misty or Ron was responsible, he would have everything to gain, by coming clean and nothing to lose. Why hasn't Ron come clean? And I do believe, (because of LE statements), he's holding back. What in the world could make this group of people protect each other? JMO.


Light just came on -- when did Misty CLAIM she was the last person to see HaLeigh? Looks to be like other said she was and may or may not have agreed. I do remember that she has said more than once they are looking at the wrong person.
 
This is a theory I've kind of played around with, that would explain how they could all be culpable, and also answer a few questions. Misty picks Haleigh up from the bus stop, and being tired and worn out, she pulls the car over and beats Haleigh. Although she is severly injured, Ron goes to work and Misty either leaves or hangs around the house and goes to bed...probably after drugging Haleigh. At some point, she finds an almost dead Haleigh. She either calls for help, or Ron does, and a man in black,(Tommy?), takes her. The bouncing couch, could have been a resuscitation attempt. Anyway, this theory could answer a few questions...like why TN sent a relative over, why Misty said Haleigh was fine at the time, how the AC man could have seen Haleigh, (if he did), and why they lied about who picked up Haleigh. Also, it would explain how they were all culpable. Misty for causing the injury, Ron for not seeking help, and Tommy, for disposing of a still alive Haleigh. There are a lot of problems with this theory, but for these 3 to be willing to sit in prison, it's MOO, that they all could be involved. If LE suspects something like this, it could also explain them offering Misty ammunity...because, technically, what she did, wouldn't be murder. If somebody disposed of an alive Haleigh, he would be the murderer. I personally, know of a few instances here, where after severe beatings, men have gone home, gone to bed, and then later died. The same thing happened to a man, after a one vehicle wreck. He was drunk, but to avoid a DWI, he didn't go to the hospital. So, these slow acting brain injuries, do happen. JMO, and just a theory.

ITA, however i think it whatever happened to HaLeigh was more sinister. Her body had to be hidden for a reason.

I just think whatever happened to HaLeigh left either traces of drugs in her system or she was hurt badly with bruising and broken bones and possibly severe internal injuries. They had to make sure she was hidden well, as not to ever be found. THAT makes the most sense to me.

It makes me wonder if she was hurt, why not take her to the hospital? i mean, they lied enough through this case, and stumped LE investigators, surely they could come up with some other lie to tell DCF and the hospital staff. . it is also MO that HaLeigh was taken out of the MH deceased.

I never gave much more thought about the man in black story, especially when i saw the jumpsuit that Ron wears to work. He could have been masked or even placed a hood over his head, and made sure his back was at JR at all times) and JR would have NEVER known it was him.

the kitchen light being on REALLY irks me!!!!!!
 
That doesn't even fit with Misty since she wasn't eligible.
I think the fear of the death penalty, might be a factor in this. Even though Misty wouldn't necessarily be worried for herself, I could see her being concerned for somebody else. I know she's not the most compassionate person, but overall, I don't think she's too worried about her own situation. If she was miserable, she might talk, but she doesn't look miserable, IMO. She seems ok. One of her worst faults, IMO, is she seems to say whatever somebody wants her to. She jumped right in with Tommy on the JO story, but jumped right back out, when Chelsea changed her tune. IMO, she changed some of her earlier stories AFTER Ron did, and even in the LVA, I got the feeling that she was pointing at CS because Ron wanted her to, and at her own family because LE wanted her to. I could see how the interviewer perked up when she talked about Tommy and JO. I wonder if Misty has ever spoken her own mind. JMO
 
ITA, however i think it whatever happened to HaLeigh was more sinister. Her body had to be hidden for a reason.

I just think whatever happened to HaLeigh left either traces of drugs in her system or she was hurt badly with bruising and broken bones and possibly severe internal injuries. They had to make sure she was hidden well, as not to ever be found. THAT makes the most sense to me.

It makes me wonder if she was hurt, why not take her to the hospital? i mean, they lied enough through this case, and stumped LE investigators, surely they could come up with some other lie to tell DCF and the hospital staff. . it is also MO that HaLeigh was taken out of the MH deceased.

I never gave much more thought about the man in black story, especially when i saw the jumpsuit that Ron wears to work. He could have been masked or even placed a hood over his head, and made sure his back was at JR at all times) and JR would have NEVER known it was him.

the kitchen light being on REALLY irks me!!!!!!
I think if Haleigh had died in the mobile home, LE would have detected it some how, and declared the trailer the crime scene. Also, even if they didn't want to jump to the conclusion of murder, they would have been clear about not looking for a live Haleigh. I do think LE can detect death, can't they? Wouldn't the dogs have hit inside the house? which brings up the dumpster hits. Sometimes I think it's the things that LE has seemingly disregarded, that are the most important...like the dumpster hit and the oxycontin od letter. I remember them saying that the pond search had nothing to do with Haleigh, and that it was a training exercise or something. Well, it was Haleigh related, and that incident makes me wonder how often they downplay and deny important clues. I also remember them saying that an interview with Tommy, had nothing to do with the search, and the timing was coincidental. Now, I wonder.JMO
 
This is a theory I've kind of played around with, that would explain how they could all be culpable, and also answer a few questions. Misty picks Haleigh up from the bus stop, and being tired and worn out, she pulls the car over and beats Haleigh. Although she is severly injured, Ron goes to work and Misty either leaves or hangs around the house and goes to bed...probably after drugging Haleigh. At some point, she finds an almost dead Haleigh. She either calls for help, or Ron does, and a man in black,(Tommy?), takes her. The bouncing couch, could have been a resuscitation attempt. Anyway, this theory could answer a few questions...like why TN sent a relative over, why Misty said Haleigh was fine at the time, how the AC man could have seen Haleigh, (if he did), and why they lied about who picked up Haleigh. Also, it would explain how they were all culpable. Misty for causing the injury, Ron for not seeking help, and Tommy, for disposing of a still alive Haleigh. There are a lot of problems with this theory, but for these 3 to be willing to sit in prison, it's MOO, that they all could be involved. If LE suspects something like this, it could also explain them offering Misty ammunity...because, technically, what she did, wouldn't be murder. If somebody disposed of an alive Haleigh, he would be the murderer. I personally, know of a few instances here, where after severe beatings, men have gone home, gone to bed, and then later died. The same thing happened to a man, after a one vehicle wreck. He was drunk, but to avoid a DWI, he didn't go to the hospital. So, these slow acting brain injuries, do happen. JMO, and just a theory.

The only person who is known to be violent in this story is Ronald. And you really think Misty would be so dang tired she would then find enough rage to beat Haleigh? And then Ron would just be ok with a 16 year old who he has known for 3 months beating and killing his child? I really cant see that.

jmo
 
The only person who is known to be violent in this story is Ronald. And you really think Misty would be so dang tired she would then find enough rage to beat Haleigh? And then Ron would just be ok with a 16 year old who he has known for 3 months beating and killing his child? I really cant see that.

jmo
like I said, it's just a theory. Somebody asked for some ideas on different theories, and I was trying to think outside the box. I didn't say this is what I think happened.IDK what happened. I'm just trying to answer some of the lingering questions. But yes, I think Misty was that tired, hungover, needing to crash, whatever. ONe witness said she didn't seem like herself and looked worn out, and another said she saw her smacking a little boy. Add that to what we know about her weekend, and I can safely assume, she wasn't in the best frame of mind. IMO, her smacking a little boy, and then later beating Haleigh, isn't that farfetched. Plus, FH said she heard a rumor that Misty hit Haleigh with a board. That 16 yr old Ron had known for only 3 months, is the same 16 yr old, he married, while his daughter was missing. Ron was ok with Misty enough to marry her, so yes, I think he'd overlook a lot of things. If Haleigh wasn't dead when Misty got finished with her, I'm not sure he'd see her as a murderer. And if he saw the injuries, and didn't get help, well, then he would be guilty too. JMO, but I'm trying to keep an open mind and look at some different scenarios. JMO
 
Light just came on -- when did Misty CLAIM she was the last person to see HaLeigh? Looks to be like other said she was and may or may not have agreed. I do remember that she has said more than once they are looking at the wrong person.
When LE labels someone, 'the last person to see so and so', I always think, 'whatever', because whoever committed the crime, is actually the last person. But, according to Misty's story, nobody was there to take Haleigh, until after they were all asleep. ..so by default, she's claiming to be at the least, the last person besides the perp. Too bad she didn't wake up for no reason, a little earlier, and she would have caught the perp....jmo
 
like I said, it's just a theory. Somebody asked for some ideas on different theories, and I was trying to think outside the box. I didn't say this is what I think happened.IDK what happened. I'm just trying to answer some of the lingering questions. But yes, I think Misty was that tired, hungover, needing to crash, whatever. ONe witness said she didn't seem like herself and looked worn out, and another said she saw her smacking a little boy. Add that to what we know about her weekend, and I can safely assume, she wasn't in the best frame of mind. IMO, her smacking a little boy, and then later beating Haleigh, isn't that farfetched. Plus, FH said she heard a rumor that Misty hit Haleigh with a board. That 16 yr old Ron had known for only 3 months, is the same 16 yr old, he married, while his daughter was missing. Ron was ok with Misty enough to marry her, so yes, I think he'd overlook a lot of things. If Haleigh wasn't dead when Misty got finished with her, I'm not sure he'd see her as a murderer. And if he saw the injuries, and didn't get help, well, then he would be guilty too. JMO, but I'm trying to keep an open mind and look at some different scenarios. JMO

I'm thinking that Ronald would have been more messed up than Misty. He is the one who threw Misty out but I'm betting that he immediately started calling her and tried to find her to drag her back to his MH. He is the one who was most likely stoned and drunk the entire time that Misty was not there. He likely didn't get any sleep during this time either. A walking time bomb, ticking away, ready to blow at the slightest provocation. He had to be totally pizzzzzzzed that Misty wasn't pinning away begging him to come back. Misty didn't seem to have the same problem as Ronald did with the big breakup. Misty has learned to just go with the flow. Ronald was a powder keg. I can only imagine how he interacted with the children in his state of mind. I've always thought that Misty probably slept the day away that Sunday after getting home at 4:00 am and most likely caught up with her sleep on that Monday.
 
I think the fear of the death penalty, might be a factor in this. Even though Misty wouldn't necessarily be worried for herself, I could see her being concerned for somebody else. I know she's not the most compassionate person, but overall, I don't think she's too worried about her own situation. If she was miserable, she might talk, but she doesn't look miserable, IMO. She seems ok. One of her worst faults, IMO, is she seems to say whatever somebody wants her to. She jumped right in with Tommy on the JO story, but jumped right back out, when Chelsea changed her tune. IMO, she changed some of her earlier stories AFTER Ron did, and even in the LVA, I got the feeling that she was pointing at CS because Ron wanted her to, and at her own family because LE wanted her to. I could see how the interviewer perked up when she talked about Tommy and JO. I wonder if Misty has ever spoken her own mind. JMO

bbm -- probably not. Maybe the closests was when/if she tried to tell LE how Ron was involved and they ignored her. :banghead:
 
Back on topic, I wonder if anyone has any new opinions on motive and what happened. I can't get past Misty and Tommy. :(
And which topic would that be? We have discussed many on this thread. Most of them are plausible...JMO
 
Just throwing my 2 cents in here...there had to be a reason why TN kept calling and begging Misty to come and babysit. She even offered to pay her and Misty kept saying she didn't want to babysit. After all, TN knew RC and Misty had broken up and I'm sure she was aware that Misty's father had been in a terrible accident and was in the hospital at that time. Why was TN so desparate to get Misty to come and babysit?
 
Back on topic, I wonder if anyone has any new opinions on motive and what happened. I can't get past Misty and Tommy. :(

There's a good reason for that. LE is investigating them for whatever happened to HaLeigh.
Tommy is the only named suspect. So far.
I expect Misty will be named too, in time.
 
Just throwing my 2 cents in here...there had to be a reason why TN kept calling and begging Misty to come and babysit. She even offered to pay her and Misty kept saying she didn't want to babysit. After all, TN knew RC and Misty had broken up and I'm sure she was aware that Misty's father had been in a terrible accident and was in the hospital at that time. Why was TN so desparate to get Misty to come and babysit?

bbm JMO, I don't believe that ever happened
 
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